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PostPosted: Wed May 17, 2006 8:52 am Post subject:  Reply with quote

                                                   
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PMDD  should  be  light  Green  In  Colour  and  not  red...
 If  you  have  used  Microsol  B  &  Distilled  Water,  It  should  be  Light  green...                

 
 I  have  used  tap  water  and  the  PMDD  looks  light  green.
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 It  is  not  just  microsol-b.  It  is  a  mixture  of  Mgso4,  Kno3,  K2So4  &  Microsol-b.
 And  yes,the  color  is  that  of  beer.  Very Happy
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 All  others  form  a  colorless  solution.  They  don't  react  with  the  components  of  Microsol_B.
 
 Beer  is  just  fine.
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 The  older  solution  is  Golden  yellow  in  colour.  The  recent  ones  are  greenish.
 
 
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The  older  solution  is  Golden  yellow  in  colour.  The  recent  ones  are  greenish.                

 
 Thanks  for  clarification  Venkat...  Any  reason  behind  this?
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 Hi  all
 
 My  PMDD  mixture  is  almost  over  and  i  need  to  prepare  some  of  it  soon.The  mixture  in  1  ltr  of  water  that  i  had  used  were  Mgso4,  Kno3,  K2So4  &  Microsol-B.I  plan  to  start  dosing  Fe-Edta  as  well  now  and  i  wanted  to  now  if  i  need  to  prepare  a  seperate  stock  solution  or  do  i  mix  this  in  the  1  ltr  along  with  the  other  chemicals?How  much  of  Fe-edta  and  what  should  the  dosing  be  if  i  were  to  make  a  seperate  solution?
 
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 Microsol-B  contains  Fe-EDTA,  why  do  you  want  to  add  more?
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 Some  of  my  plants  were  showing  signs  of  deficiency  in  nutrients.On  referring  to  Chuck  grad's  site,the  symptoms  seemed  like  there  was  an  iron  deficiency.Hence  was  wondering  if  i  needed  to  add  some  Fe-Edta
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 Up  your  PMDD  dosage  to  125%  of  what  you  are  dosing  for  a  week  and  look  for  improvement.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 12:34 pm Post subject: PMDD Mixing and Dosing Routine Reply with quote

 Hello  All,
 
 Could  Everyone  Post  the  Updated  PMDD  Mix  ,  i  mean  the  personal  Mixing  and  Dosing  Routines  for  Varoius  Tanks  Sizes  which  each  one  you  follow  now    from  the  default  one  which  is  posted  here.
 
 Please  share  your    NEW  personal  Mixing  and  Dosing  Routines  and  Experiences    ,  so  that  all    the  Newbies  can  learn  and  correct    their  Mixing  and  Dosing  .
 
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 Raghu  what  you  are  asking  for  is  like  finding  out  how  many  spoonfuls  of  sugar,  coffee  powder,  milk  or  milk  powder,  size  of  the  coffee  cup,  borewell  water  or  municipal  water  each  person  adds  to  his  morning  brew,  and  then  trying  to  arrive  at  something  credible,  add  to  this  the  plant  variety,  density  of  planting,  lighting  variations  in  case  of  planted  tanks.
 
 There  are  too  many  variables  involved  here  to  arrive  at  any  conclusion.
 
 There  is  a  standard  PMDD  dosing  schedule,  1ml  per  280  liters  of  aquarium  water  when  fluorescent  lighting  is  used  at  the  inital  tank  stages.  Increase  or  decrease  this  as  demanded  by  the  plants,  when  growth  booms
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 The  mixture  will  not  cause  heavy  metal  toxicity  even  if  overdosed.
 
 A  dilute  solution  always  gives  better  control  over  dosing.
 
 The  way  to  correct  the  dosing  schedule  for  invidual  tanks  is  to  watch  the  plants.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 05, 2006 11:06 pm Post subject: Re: PMDD - Micronutrient Mixture Reply with quote

 Where  can  I  get  Microsol  B  in  Mumbai?  
 There  are  two  dealers  in  Mumbai  near  Jijamata  Udyan  opposit  Byculla  Station.  Ratanshi  Agro  and  Namdeo  Umaji.  Both  do  not  have  it.     Crying or Very sad  
 
 I  got  the  following  four  water  soluble  fertilisers  instead.
 
 1.  Sampurna  -  by  Anan  Chemicals,  Guajrat.Rs.30/-  for  100  ml.  
 It  says  it  contains  all  ingredients  but  no  break  up  given.  I  have  tried  one  cap  every  night  in  my  Discus  tank  (4ft  x  14  inch  x  2  ft.).  for  one  week.  All  the  guys   are  fine.   Smile  
 
 All  the  below  are  not  tried.
 2.  Ratanshi's  Bahar-  Rs.40m  for  100m  ML  Contains  %  by  wt.  Min.  N  8%,  P2O5  8%,  K2  8%
 
 3.  Freegrow  -  Rs.  59  for  100  Ml.  This  comes  from  Phillipines.  made  by  Harveson  inc.  They  say  it  is  made  from  sea  weeds.
                      It  contains  Macro  Elements  -  N  0.1%,  P  (P2O5)  0.20%  Potassium  (K)  1.00  %  
                                        Micro  Elements  -   Calcium  0.11%,  Magnesium  0.01%,  Sodium  0.13%,  Iron  256.0  ppm,  Zinc  11.87  ppm,                    Mannganese  13.8  ppm,  Copper  15.62  ppm,
                   Growth  Hormones-  Cylonin  Auin  ????  (Cant  Read  properly  too  small  Print)
 
 4.  Multiplex  -  Rs.60  for  250  ML  made  by  Karnataka  Agro  Chemicals
  Contains-  Zinc  3.oo  Manganese  1.00  Copper  1.00  Ferrous  2.50   Molybdenum  0.10  and  Boron  0.50
 The  dealer  said  "If  you  have  used  Sampurna,  you  can  very  well  use  Bahar"  Both  are  similar  chemicals.
 
 Which  one  should  I  use?  Can  you  guys  help?  
 I  have  13  Discus,  of  2  to  4  inch  size,  two  Gold  fish  4  inch,   and  two  Suckermouth  5  inch  in  4ft  x  14  inch  x  2ft  tank.
 Light  one  4ft  Tubelight  20000k  since  one  month.  Water  change  weekly  90%.  I  have  planted  Amazon  and  Banana  Plants  in  Pots  filed  with  sand  inside  the  tank.  The  tank  is  bare  bottom.  All  the  guys  are  living  happily  for  the  last  three-six  months.  I  use  homeopathic  medicine  from  my  family  doctor  since  26th  July,  2006.There  is  no  wicket  of  any  fish  since  then.      
 However  my  plants  do  not  survive.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 7:14 pm Post subject: Re: PMDD - Micronutrient Mixture Reply with quote

 I  came  across  another  micro-nutrient  mixture  product  called  Librel  TMX  -  Chelated  Micro  Nutrients  Mixture  manufactured  by  Ciba  Speciality  Chemicals,  UK.  Imported  by  Ciba  Speciality  Chemicals  (India)  Ltd,  Gurgaon  (E),  Mumbai.  
 
 This  one  is  meant  for  foliar  application  hence  the  percentage  by  weight  of  the  constituent  micro-nutrients  are  bit  on  the  lesser  side  when  compared  to  Microsol  -B  .  They  also  have  a  Soil  Application  varient  of  the  same  product   called  'Librel  TMX-2  -  Chelated  Micro  Nutrients  Mixture'  which  might  have  higher  nutrient  percentage  by  weight  than  the  varient  I  bought.
 
 Librel  TMX  Nutrient  %  by  Wt.  Min  as  printed  on  the  product.
 
 Zinc  3.0%
 Iron  4.0%
 Manganese  2.0%
 Molybdenum  0.05%
 Copper  0.10%
 Boron  0.50%

 
 The  product  has  a  Max.  Retail  Price  of  Rs.  89
 Net  Weight:  100  gm
 
 I'm  wondering  if  anyone  here  is  using  this  product  for  their  PMDD  recipe.  How  much  of  this  
 
 product  should  I  use  for  1  litre  of  PMDD  in  your  openion?  Will  and  increse  in  Zn  amount  
 
 cause  some  adverse  effects  on  plants?
 
 Some  images  of  the  product.
 
 
 
 
 
 
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 Hi  AQuARiUs_InDicA,
 
 Can  you  let  us  know  the   Chelated  form  of  Fe.  DTPA  iron  is  more  stable  than  EDTA.  Commonly  and  cheaply  available  one  is  EDTA  in  bangalore  and  is  also  the  content  of  Micro-Sol-B.
 
 Note  that  Vardhaman  Ferti  has  another  product  called  Fertilon  or  some  thing  which  has  Fe  in  DTPA  Chelated  form.  But  this  expensive  i  believe.
 
 Based  on  Microsol-B's  composition  and  its  dogage  i  suppose  if  you  want  to  try  this  new  one  you   can  comapre  and  dose  it.  I  suppose  Madan  has  given  his  dosage  after  dilution  some  where  in  the  top  of  this  thread  for  microsol-B  which  i  feel  is  a  good  reference.
 
 
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 rgg,
 Itz  in  EDTA  chelated  form.  I  know  you  are  all  looking  for  an  alternative  source  for  DTPA  form  Smile  
 
 Even  Ciba's  iron  (Fe)  only  suppliment  is  also  in  EDTA  form  12%
 
 Yes  I'm  trying  to  have  a  beneficial  dosage  out  of  this  product  referring  all  the  posts  here  we  have  about  PMDD   Thumb Up  .
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