Joined: May 02, 2005 Posts: 432 Location: Bangalore
Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 11:51 am Post subject:
My PMDD mixture is almost over and i need to prepare some of it soon.The mixture in 1 ltr of water that i had used were Mgso4, Kno3, K2So4 & Microsol-B.I plan to start dosing Fe-Edta as well now and i wanted to now if i need to prepare a seperate stock solution or do i mix this in the 1 ltr along with the other chemicals?How much of Fe-edta and what should the dosing be if i were to make a seperate solution?
Joined: May 02, 2005 Posts: 432 Location: Bangalore
Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 12:16 pm Post subject:
Some of my plants were showing signs of deficiency in nutrients.On referring to Chuck grad's site,the symptoms seemed like there was an iron deficiency.Hence was wondering if i needed to add some Fe-Edta
Joined: Jun 29, 2003 Posts: 7087 Location: Bengaluru, India
Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 1:12 pm Post subject:
Raghu what you are asking for is like finding out how many spoonfuls of sugar, coffee powder, milk or milk powder, size of the coffee cup, borewell water or municipal water each person adds to his morning brew, and then trying to arrive at something credible, add to this the plant variety, density of planting, lighting variations in case of planted tanks.
There are too many variables involved here to arrive at any conclusion.
There is a standard PMDD dosing schedule, 1ml per 280 liters of aquarium water when fluorescent lighting is used at the inital tank stages. Increase or decrease this as demanded by the plants, when growth booms
The mixture will not cause heavy metal toxicity even if overdosed.
A dilute solution always gives better control over dosing.
The way to correct the dosing schedule for invidual tanks is to watch the plants.
Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2006 11:06 pm Post subject: Re: PMDD - Micronutrient Mixture
Where can I get Microsol B in Mumbai?
There are two dealers in Mumbai near Jijamata Udyan opposit Byculla Station. Ratanshi Agro and Namdeo Umaji. Both do not have it.
I got the following four water soluble fertilisers instead.
1. Sampurna - by Anan Chemicals, Guajrat.Rs.30/- for 100 ml.
It says it contains all ingredients but no break up given. I have tried one cap every night in my Discus tank (4ft x 14 inch x 2 ft.). for one week. All the guys are fine.
All the below are not tried.
2. Ratanshi's Bahar- Rs.40m for 100m ML Contains % by wt. Min. N 8%, P2O5 8%, K2 8%
3. Freegrow - Rs. 59 for 100 Ml. This comes from Phillipines. made by Harveson inc. They say it is made from sea weeds.
It contains Macro Elements - N 0.1%, P (P2O5) 0.20% Potassium (K) 1.00 %
Micro Elements - Calcium 0.11%, Magnesium 0.01%, Sodium 0.13%, Iron 256.0 ppm, Zinc 11.87 ppm, Mannganese 13.8 ppm, Copper 15.62 ppm,
Growth Hormones- Cylonin Auin ???? (Cant Read properly too small Print)
4. Multiplex - Rs.60 for 250 ML made by Karnataka Agro Chemicals
Contains- Zinc 3.oo Manganese 1.00 Copper 1.00 Ferrous 2.50 Molybdenum 0.10 and Boron 0.50
The dealer said "If you have used Sampurna, you can very well use Bahar" Both are similar chemicals.
Which one should I use? Can you guys help?
I have 13 Discus, of 2 to 4 inch size, two Gold fish 4 inch, and two Suckermouth 5 inch in 4ft x 14 inch x 2ft tank.
Light one 4ft Tubelight 20000k since one month. Water change weekly 90%. I have planted Amazon and Banana Plants in Pots filed with sand inside the tank. The tank is bare bottom. All the guys are living happily for the last three-six months. I use homeopathic medicine from my family doctor since 26th July, 2006.There is no wicket of any fish since then.
However my plants do not survive.
Joined: Sep 13, 2006 Posts: 93 Location: Kottayam > Kerala
Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 7:14 pm Post subject: Re: PMDD - Micronutrient Mixture
I came across another micro-nutrient mixture product called Librel TMX - Chelated Micro Nutrients Mixture manufactured by Ciba Speciality Chemicals, UK. Imported by Ciba Speciality Chemicals (India) Ltd, Gurgaon (E), Mumbai.
This one is meant for foliar application hence the percentage by weight of the constituent micro-nutrients are bit on the lesser side when compared to Microsol -B . They also have a Soil Application varient of the same product called 'Librel TMX-2 - Chelated Micro Nutrients Mixture' which might have higher nutrient percentage by weight than the varient I bought.
Librel TMX Nutrient % by Wt. Min as printed on the product.
Joined: May 02, 2006 Posts: 1742 Location: Bangalore
Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 11:35 am Post subject: Re: PMDD - Micronutrient Mixture
Can you let us know the Chelated form of Fe. DTPA iron is more stable than EDTA. Commonly and cheaply available one is EDTA in bangalore and is also the content of Micro-Sol-B.
Note that Vardhaman Ferti has another product called Fertilon or some thing which has Fe in DTPA Chelated form. But this expensive i believe.
Based on Microsol-B's composition and its dogage i suppose if you want to try this new one you can comapre and dose it. I suppose Madan has given his dosage after dilution some where in the top of this thread for microsol-B which i feel is a good reference.
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