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PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 1:24 am Post subject: New Scaping-update on page 1 Reply with quote

 My  tank  after  rescaping  it  for  the  third  time.Smile
 Suggestions  are  most  welcome..:)
 
 On  Day  1
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 Pranoy,  are  those  laterite  stones..?  and  what  is  that  stick  on  the  left  side  between  those  plants..?
 You  have  too  many  large  leaved  plants  in  the  tank,  which  will  out  grow  the  tank..  but  looks  nice  as  of  now..  the  rocks  will  be  nice  once  they  age  in  the  tank..  and  become  dark.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 4:16 pm Post subject: Re: New Scaping Reply with quote

                                                   
Nidhi  wrote  (View  Post):                
Pranoy,  are  those  laterite  stones..?  and  what  is  that  stick  on  the  left  side  between  those  plants..?
 You  have  too  many  large  leaved  plants  in  the  tank,  which  will  out  grow  the  tank..  but  looks  nice  as  of  now..  the  rocks  will  be  nice  once  they  age  in  the  tank..  and  become  dark.                

 
 No..they  are  some  holed  stones  but  not  laterite..that  stick  to  left  side  is  a  branch  which  i  collected  near  a  lake  long  back..
 this  is  the  first  day  photo  of  the  scape..waiting  for  the  plants  to  grow..Smile
 and  thanks  for  the  compliments.  Smile.
 any  suggestions  please  ..it  looks  like  something  is  missing  in  it.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 4:25 pm Post subject: Re: New Scaping Reply with quote

 There  is  a  vacant  spot  on  the  RHS,  plant  some  of  those  hydrocotyles  on  the  left  side  into  the  right  hand  side..  remove  the  branch.  And  wait  for  the  plants  to  grow,  especially  the  fissidens.
 And  remove  the  plant  which  is  on  the  stone..  Smile
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Nidhi  wrote  (View  Post):                
There  is  a  vacant  spot  on  the  RHS,  plant  some  of  those  hydrocotyles  on  the  left  side  into  the  right  hand  side..  remove  the  branch.  And  wait  for  the  plants  to  grow,  especially  the  fissidens.
 And  remove  the  plant  which  is  on  the  stone..  Smile                

 
 actually  i've  left  RHS  empty  because  i've  some  grass  plants  to  plant..but  they  are  very  weak..so  planning  to  make  them  stronger  with  emersed  growth..and  the  carpet  plant  to  the  front  is  riccia..i've  removed  that  branch..thank  youu  Nidhi..:)
 
 please  help  me  with  diy  ferts..right  now  i've  K2SO4,  MgSO4  and  EDTA  in  powder  form..
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 Pranoy,  
 I  saw  some  fissidens  on  your  link  album  so  thought  it  was  them..
 As  for  the  ferts..  here  is  a  recommendation  given  to  me  by  sujo,  which  will  give  you  some  idea..
   
 Take  6  bottles  of  500ml  (600ml  sprite  bottle  are  good  enough).
 Cover  them  with  black  plastic  cover  or  paper.  (recommended)
 KH2PO4  is  photo-sensitive.  So  black  covering  is  must  for  this.
   
 Label  the  bottles  like  this.
 Nitrate   KNO3
 Phosphate   KH2PO4
 Potassium   K2SO4
 Magnesium   MgSO4*7H2O
 Chelated  Iron
 CSM+B
   
 Nitrate  KNO3                                 -  Add  40  gms  in  500  ml  of  water
 Phosphate  KH2PO4                 -  Add  3  gms  in  500  ml  of  water
 Potassium  K2SO4                     -  Add  20  gms  in  500  ml  of  water
 Magnesium  MgSO4*7H2O  -  Add  33  gms  in  500  ml  of  water     (Or  20gms  in  300ml  of  water)
   
 Micro  nutrients
             Chelated  Iron                                          -  Add  3  gms  in  500  ml  of  water   (Optional)
             CSM+B                                               -  Add  7  gms  in  500  ml  of  water  (or  15gms  in  1000ml  of  water)
 Add  10ml  each  of  this  solution  after  every  30  litre  water  change.
 Please  note  that  30  litre  is  not  the  size  of  the  tank   but  the  amount  of  water  you  changed.
 50%  water  change  every  week  is  highly  recommended  when  you  add  fertilizers.
   
 This  dosage  is  at  the  lower  side  and  bring  the  lower  sides  of  ppm  levels.
 If  you  are  finding  everything  going  fine,  you  can  slowly  increase  the  dosage.
 You  can  keep  this  10ml  as  minimum  dosage  and  20ml  as  maximum  dosage.
   
 Normally  plants  gets  Calsium  and  Magnesium  from  the  water  we  add.
 So  Calsium  and  Magnesium  suppliments  are  not  always  necessary.  (especially  when  you  use  tap  water)
   
 If  you  are  dosing  CSM+B,  Iron  dosing  is  not  necessary.
 But  you  can  dose  iron  if  you  want  to  increase  the  iron  ppm  levels.
   
 Phosphate  will  make  your  water  cloudy  and  plants  get  this  from  the  fish  food.
 So  if  you  are  adding  a  good  amount  of  fish  food  to  the  tank,  no  need  of  adding  phosphates.
 Add  phosphate  only  just  before  you  switches  off  your  light  at  night.
 Please  note  that  KH2PO4  is  photosensitive.
   
 If  you  notice  the  symptom  of  any  defficiency  in  your  tank,  add  a  little  extra  of  that  nutrient.
 Overdosing  of  phosphates  and  nitrates  can  cause  algae  issues.
   
 These  are  my  recommendadtions  or  my  way  of  doing.
 Some  other  person  will  have  his  way  of  doing.
 So  you  can  read  forums  and  discuss  with  others  before  you  decide  your  way  of  doing.
 See  http://www.theaquatools.com/fertilization-calculator
 This  is  a  helpful  website  for  dosage  calculation.
   
 But,  I  did  some  thing  else...  I  mixed  the  macros  into  one  solution..  see  the  picture  for  the  quantity  used  for  preparing  it,  quantity  being  dosed  for  my  190  liter  tank.  I  am  dosing  this  3  times  a  week,  alternating  with  the  CSM-B  solution  of  5  ml  as  per  sujos  recommendation  on  it.


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 12:24 am Post subject: Re: New Scaping Reply with quote

                                                   
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 Overdosing  of  phosphates  and  nitrates  can  cause  algae  issues.                  

 
 Tom  Barr  would  shoot  you  if  he  read  this   ROFL
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 Mortis,  May  be  he  will..  or  will  shoot  himself..  ROFL  
 Now,  every  single  article  I  have  read  in  order  to  get  the  basics  of  rolling  our  own  PMDD  or  EI  suggests  low  Phosphate  values..  but  nitrates  are  always  suggested  high  even  though  there  is  enough  in  our  tanks  which  comes  from  the  fish  poo  and  left  over  fish  food  etc..
 But  these  are  values  calculated  for  high  lighting  and  good  pressurized  co2  tanks..
 so  if  you  wanna  dose  for  a  low  tech  I  believe  that  only  Potassium  is  the  ingredient  which  will  be  need  in  high  concentration..since  all  others  are  available  in  enough  quantity  especially  with  all  the  weekly  water  changes,  and  the  fish  poo,  uneaten  food,  dead  leaves..etc  may  be  Iron  will  be  the  only  other  thing  deficient  in  such  tanks.
 So  I  don't  know  what  causes  algae,  if  there  is  enough  all  round  nutrition  for  the  plants  then  they  will  weed  out  the  algae  by  competition..  what  do  you  say..
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 2:37 pm Post subject: Re: New Scaping Reply with quote

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 That  is  one  hell  of  an  encyclopedia.   Thumb Up
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Nidhi  
 
 That  is  one  hell  of  an  encyclopedia.   Thumb Up                

 No  Ramdas,  Its  just  the  basics..  you  must  see  the  tread  by  Madan  sir  on  this.  And  more  over  that  first  recommendation  was  of  Sujo,  But  customized  it  to  my  needs..
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 I  guess  that  dosing  excess  INORGANIC  Phosphates  doesnt  cause  algae  but  the  ORGANIC  phosphates  from  food/waste  does  and  when  we  dose,  plants  prefer  the  inorganics  and  then  organics  become  excess  causing  algae  possibly.
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Pranoy,  
 I  saw  some  fissidens  on  your  link  album  so  thought  it  was  them..
 As  for  the  ferts..  here  is  a  recommendation  given  to  me  by  sujo,  which  will  give  you  some  idea..
   
 Take  6  bottles  of  500ml  (600ml  sprite  bottle  are  good  enough).
 Cover  them  with  black  plastic  cover  or  paper.  (recommended)
 KH2PO4  is  photo-sensitive.  So  black  covering  is  must  for  this.
   
 Label  the  bottles  like  this.
 Nitrate   KNO3
 Phosphate   KH2PO4
 Potassium   K2SO4
 Magnesium   MgSO4*7H2O
 Chelated  Iron
 CSM+B
   
 Nitrate  KNO3                                 -  Add  40  gms  in  500  ml  of  water
 Phosphate  KH2PO4                 -  Add  3  gms  in  500  ml  of  water
 Potassium  K2SO4                     -  Add  20  gms  in  500  ml  of  water
 Magnesium  MgSO4*7H2O  -  Add  33  gms  in  500  ml  of  water     (Or  20gms  in  300ml  of  water)
   
 Micro  nutrients
             Chelated  Iron                                          -  Add  3  gms  in  500  ml  of  water   (Optional)
             CSM+B                                               -  Add  7  gms  in  500  ml  of  water  (or  15gms  in  1000ml  of  water)
 Add  10ml  each  of  this  solution  after  every  30  litre  water  change.
 Please  note  that  30  litre  is  not  the  size  of  the  tank   but  the  amount  of  water  you  changed.
 50%  water  change  every  week  is  highly  recommended  when  you  add  fertilizers.
   
 This  dosage  is  at  the  lower  side  and  bring  the  lower  sides  of  ppm  levels.
 If  you  are  finding  everything  going  fine,  you  can  slowly  increase  the  dosage.
 You  can  keep  this  10ml  as  minimum  dosage  and  20ml  as  maximum  dosage.
   
 Normally  plants  gets  Calsium  and  Magnesium  from  the  water  we  add.
 So  Calsium  and  Magnesium  suppliments  are  not  always  necessary.  (especially  when  you  use  tap  water)
   
 If  you  are  dosing  CSM+B,  Iron  dosing  is  not  necessary.
 But  you  can  dose  iron  if  you  want  to  increase  the  iron  ppm  levels.
   
 Phosphate  will  make  your  water  cloudy  and  plants  get  this  from  the  fish  food.
 So  if  you  are  adding  a  good  amount  of  fish  food  to  the  tank,  no  need  of  adding  phosphates.
 Add  phosphate  only  just  before  you  switches  off  your  light  at  night.
 Please  note  that  KH2PO4  is  photosensitive.
   
 If  you  notice  the  symptom  of  any  defficiency  in  your  tank,  add  a  little  extra  of  that  nutrient.
 Overdosing  of  phosphates  and  nitrates  can  cause  algae  issues.
   
 These  are  my  recommendadtions  or  my  way  of  doing.
 Some  other  person  will  have  his  way  of  doing.
 So  you  can  read  forums  and  discuss  with  others  before  you  decide  your  way  of  doing.
 See  http://www.theaquatools.com/fertilization-calculator.
 This  is  a  helpful  website  for  dosage  calculation.
   
 But,  I  did  some  thing  else...  I  mixed  the  macros  into  one  solution..  see  the  picture  for  the  quantity  used  for  preparing  it,  quantity  being  dosed  for  my  190  liter  tank.  I  am  dosing  this  3  times  a  week,  alternating  with  the  CSM-B  solution  of  5  ml  as  per  sujos  recommendation  on  it.                

 
 Thanks  again..by  the  way  the  link  which  you  provided  for  fertilizer  calculator  is  not  working..Smile
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 4:11 pm Post subject: Re: New Scaping Reply with quote

 Pranoy,
 
 Check  it  now.
 
 http://www.theaquatools.com/fertilization-calculator
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GANESAA  wrote  (View  Post):                
Pranoy,
 
 Check  it  now.
 
 http://www.theaquatools.com/fertilization-calculator                

 
 thankyou..its  working  now..
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