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PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 8:20 pm Post subject: Discus dashing around in the tank - please help. Reply with quote

 Hi,  I  haven't  been  here  in  ages,  so  not  sure  if  this  is  the  right  place  to  post  this.  I  really  need  some  advice  regarding  a  strange  illness  that  is  overtaking  my  discus  fish  one  by  one.  
 
 They  are  exhibiting  erratic  behavior,  one  by  one,  suddenly  dash  around  the  tank,  crashing  into  the  glass,  and  then  settle  to  the  bottom.  Crazy,  seemingly  uncontrolled  motions  going  in  several  directions,  bumping  into  the  glass,  thrashing  at  the  surface  of  the  water,  and  then  settling  down  afterwards,  sometimes  at  odd  angles  and/or  upside  down  from  either  the  impacts  with  the  tank  or  the  tiredness  of  the  activity  lasting  5-10  seconds.  At  times  after  the  thrashing  behavior,  they  seem  to  be  perfectly  fine  and  if  you  did  not  see  it,  you  would  never  know  something  was  wrong  with  the  fish.
 
 I  lost  my  largest  discus  to  this  illness  and  now  the  juveniles  are  also  displaying  this  erratic  behavior.  I  have  moved  them  from  the  50  gallon  tank  they  were  in  to  a  smaller  tank,  increased  the  temp  to  32  degrees  and  added  salt.
 
 I  have  tried  to  search  on  the  website  regarding  this  illness,  but  found  no  solution.  It  seems  a  lot  of  discus  keepers  have  experienced  this  but  no  one  has  any  idea  what  is  causing  this.
 
 Has  anyone  else  experienced  this  problem?  Please  help.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 8:30 pm Post subject: Re: Discus dashing around in the tank - please help. Reply with quote

 Thats  the  symptoms  of  Gill  Flukes.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 8:32 pm Post subject: Re: Discus dashing around in the tank - please help. Reply with quote

 Signs  of  Fluke  infestation  include,  scratching  against  objects  by  the  fish,  rapid  breathing  due  to  loss  of  use  of  part  of  a  gill,  or  even  holding  a  gill  shut  and  not  using  it.  My  Discus  does  not  have  any  of  these.  It's  definitely  not  gill  flukes.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 8:44 pm Post subject: Re: Discus dashing around in the tank - please help. Reply with quote

 Hi,
 
 Hope  this  helps,  this  does  not  pinpoint  to  any  one  problem...but  here  it  looks  like  it  has  helped  solving  it
 
 http://forum.discusnews.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=2443
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 8:58 pm Post subject: Re: Discus dashing around in the tank - please help. Reply with quote

 Hi  Akg,  
 I  have  faced  a  similar  situation  in  my  tank  on  December  2010  when  I  lost  several  fishes  to  this  disease  of  epidemic  proportion.  Many  address  this  as  whirling  disease  or  Ichthyosporidium  Hoferi.  There  is  a  topic  in  the  disease  section   by  me  which  deals  with  this  problem.  However,  the  real  culprit  seems  to  be  fluctuating  pH  in  the  tank.  Do  not  change  water  in  your  tank  for  a  few  days,  add  some  rock  salt  and  reduce  feeding  to  reduce  ammonia.Keep  us  informed  and  good  luck.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 9:07 pm Post subject: Re: Discus dashing around in the tank - please help. Reply with quote

 Hi  Swarnendu,  did  this  help  your  remaining  discus  to  survive?  At  this  time  I  have  a  feeling  that  all  of  them  will  fall  prey  to  this  disease.  I'll  stop  water  changes  for  a  couple  of  days  and  maintain  the  temp  at  a  constant  32  degrees.  Have  also  added  salt  as  suggested.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 9:13 pm Post subject: Re: Discus dashing around in the tank - please help. Reply with quote

 Could  be  due  to  chlorine  in  water.
 do  you  use  de-chlorinator?
 
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 9:36 pm Post subject: Re: Discus dashing around in the tank - please help. Reply with quote

 Yes  of  course  I  use  de  chlorinator.  Have  been  keeping  fish  for  8  years  now.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 12:04 am Post subject: Re: Discus dashing around in the tank - please help. Reply with quote

                                                   
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Hi  Swarnendu,  did  this  help  your  remaining  discus  to  survive?.                

 
 I  will  be  honest  with  you  as  this  is  a  matter  of  life  and  death  .  2010  was  the  beginning  of  my  discus  keeping  and  like  most  beginners  with  access  to  the  internet,  I  was  always  ready  to  nuke  the  fishes  with  chemicals.  I  performed  PP  dips  and  antibiotics  with  some  fishes  and  some  of  them  survived  .However  after  consultations  with  Yogesh  (one  of  our  IAH  moderators)  who  claimed  to  have  been  instructed  by  the  great  Mr  Carey  Pereira,  I  maintained  the  suggested  conditions  and  did  manage  to  save  the  remaining  souls.  Since  most  of  us  do  not  have  the  luxury  of  microscopes  at  home,  I  would  suggest  using  procedures  that  are  less  harsh  and  worked  for  others  to  start  with.  If  the  condition  persists  or  deteriorates,  we  can  always  resort  to  other  methods.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 12:05 am Post subject: Re: Discus dashing around in the tank - please help. Reply with quote

 If  you  have  a  pH  test  kit,  you  can  have  a  check  of  that  parameter.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 8:28 pm Post subject: Re: Discus dashing around in the tank - please help. Reply with quote

 Hi,  just  wanted  to  give  an  update.  I  lost  2  juvenile  discus  that  were  showing  signs  of  this  whirling  disease,  but  the  others  are  now  fine  and  seem  to  be  stable.  I  can  only  deduce  that  this  happened  due  to  large  water  changes  using  regular  tap  water  which  might  have  caused  a  pH  imbalance.  Can  some  one  please  tell  me  if  it  is  better  to  use  bore  well  water  in  Mumbai  rather  than  BMC  water?  Right  now  I  have  the  discus  in  bore  well  water,  and  they  seem  to  be  doing  better  than  they  were  in  the  regular  tap  water.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 8:52 pm Post subject: Re: Discus dashing around in the tank - please help. Reply with quote

 We  were  eagerly  awaiting  your  update.  Sorry  for  the  fishes  lost  but  the  important  thing  is  that  the  rest  are  OK.  Though  I  have  been  a  Mumbaikar  for  close  to  11  years,  I  always  had  the  luxury  of  using  BMC  water.  I  believe  all  our  Mumbai  friends  would  be  able  to  help  you  in  this  regard.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 3:18 pm Post subject: Re: Discus dashing around in the tank - please help. Reply with quote

                                                   
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Can  some  one  please  tell  me  if  it  is  better  to  use  bore  well  water  in  Mumbai  rather  than  BMC  water?  Right  now  I  have  the  discus  in  bore  well  water,  and  they  seem  to  be  doing  better  than  they  were  in  the  regular  tap  water.
                 

 
 In  Mumbai  ,  municipal  water  is  very  good   for  Discus  .  Ph  of  7.5  and  TDS  of  80  -  90  PPM  .  I  think  your  decision  to  transfer  discus  in  bore  well  water  is  not  correct  .  You  first  need  to  check  the  water  parameter  of  Bore  well  water  .  
 
 Did  you  add  any  new  discus  in  this  tank  recently  ,  if  yes  when  .  
 
 PP  should  work  well   for  such  cases  .
 
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