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PostPosted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 11:14 pm Post subject: Re: RESONATE Reply with quote

 Its  been  4  months  plus  since  my  last  post.  Here  is  the  shpeel  on  all  the  happenings  till  now.
 
 Late  october,  things  were  looking  up  and  in  november  things  remained  the  same.  I  added  fish  to  the  tank  and  was  waiting  for  things  to  grow.  Unfortunately  for  me  the  HC  didnot  want  to  grow.  The  culprit  was  the  light,  it  was  not  sufficient  fo  the  tank.  Its  a  f  feeter  with  a  depth  of  24  inches  and  needs  light  to  pentrate  more  than  the  usual  21  inches.  Add  to  this,  the  plecors  and  the  Denisones  and  every  other  fish  thought  it  would  be  fun  to  uproot  the  plants,  just  for  kicks.  The  cat  and  mouse  game  continued  for  sometime.  They  would  uproot,  I  would  replant.  End  of  november,  I  went  out  of  town  for  a  week  and  asked  my  folks  to  take  care  of  the  tank.  I  gave  them  instructions  and  left.  On  my  return  this  is  what  I  found.  The  picture  doesnot  do  justice  to  what  the  initial  state  was  on  my  return,  this  is  after  a  lot  of  treatement  with  H202.
 
 
 
 
 It  was  clearly  a  case  of  excess  nutrient  and  low  co2.  The  hair  algae  was  about  5  cms  if  not  longer.  I  am  not  exagerating.  My  folks  thought  that  it  was  natural  growth,  didnt  think  anything  was  out  of  palce...  LOL...   Surprised  
 
 Well  they  didnt  know  what  to  expect,  that  much  I  have  to  say  in  their  defence.
 
 Well  the  fight  was  on,  it  was  H202  coupled  with  a  little  bit  of  lights  out  etc.  Finally  the  algae  was  under  contorl.  The  run  with  the  HC  continued  not  much  fruitful.  I  took  the  big  boys  (plecos)  out  of  the  tank  into  a  holding  tank,  they  were  having  just  a  little  too  much  of  fun  at  my  expense.
 
 The  Glossos  had  done  well  but  were  growing  straight  up  though  there  was  some  sideways  growth.  The  Glosso  and  the  HC  were  testimony  to  that  fact.
 
 .
 
 Enter  ACE  hobbyist  Shelly  D'silva  and  he  knew  a  thing  or  two  about  aquarium  lighting,  led  lighting  that  is.  A  call  to  shelly  earlier  and  he  had  told  me  the  specs  and  the  cost.  One  things  after  the  other  kept  happening  and  I  ran  myself  into  a  spot  of  bother  with  my  finances.  The  light  was  delayed.  In  the  meanwhile,  I  has  a  52W  HO  T5  tune  which  I  hooked  up  to  the  tank  and  started  trying  to  grow  the  HC.
 
 First  I  tried  covering  it  with  the  luncheon  wrap  that  you  get.  No  go  -  less  circulation  meant  algae  and  the  HC  withered.  This  was  high  quality  stuff  and  set  me  back  a  K  in  cash.  Not  detered  by  the  faliure  I  would  try  again,  but  after  sometime.
 
 It  was  late  mid  february  by  now.  work  load  had  considerably  increase  and  there  was  not  much  time  to  spend  on  the  aquarium.  The  layout  suffered.  Lack  of  attention  and  the  Ovalis  and  peruensis  suffered  and  I  just  had  1  stem  of  peruensis  and  couple  of  stems  of  ovalis  left.  It  was  going  to  be  an  uphill  battle  now.  I  wanted  to  get  back  the  tank  back  up  but  didnt  want  to  go  buy  plants  again.  Had  a  fight  on  my  hand  now  for  sure.
 
 You  can  see  the  lone  stem  of  peruensis,  the  ovalis  and  foreground  hc  all  depleted.  
 
 
 
 Soon  the  Glosso  also  withered,  lack  of  light  etc  was  the  cause  of  its  demise.
 
 Now  the  tank  was  stock  with  fauna  but  no  flora.
 
 Around  this  time  I  got  Shelly  to  get  the  ligths  built  for  me,  it  was  mid  feb  by  the  time  the  lights  were  installed.  
 
 I  was  tired  of  the  layout.  There  was  no  resonance  in  the  layout  anymore,  the  moss  had  started  wilting,  I  think  it  was  the  incerease  in  temprature  that  did  them.  The  tank  was  a  mess.  I  needed  a  change.
 
 I  took  the  block  of  wood  out,  the  center  piece  and  decided  to  do  another  layout,  one  that  would  resonate.  I  am  not  sure  what  it  was,  but  the  tank  didnt  feel  the  same  anymore.
 
 So  I  took  out  the  block  if  wood,  installed  the  lights  and  ordered  HC  again.  This  time  to  keep  the  pesky  demons  out  of  the  crop,  I  took  advise  from  a  friend  and  put  stainless  steel  mesh  in,  dont  have  pics,  but  it  didnt  work.  The  plants  withered.  There  was  my  third  attempt.  By  now  I  had  spent  about  3  K  on  HC  with  still  the  old  jinx  playing  on  me.  Disaster  was  the  end  result.  But  I  was  not  one  to  give  up..  I  was  going  to  get  it  right.....
 
 I  went  pickedup  HCagain  after  giving  a  lot  of  though  to  how  I  can  keep  the  fish  out.  The  solution  is  pretty  simple   I  would  say.  Common  household  item  to  groung  the  HC.
 
 I  got  the  HC  and  grounded  them.  This  the  the  fishes  didnot  get  to  it.  Yeah,  I  was  on  my  way  again.
 
 Now  I  dont  know  what  had  happened.  It  could  have  been  the  lights,  the  disturbance  of  the  substarta  when  I  remnoved  the  wood  and  put  in  new  wood;  the  tank  had  a  algea  bloom,  diatoms,  slimy  and  long,  not  the  dust....  It  was  all  over  the  tank  and  it  was  bad,  it  continued  for  two  weeks.  I  dont  have  pics  because  I  was  busy,  cleaning  the  tank  every  single  day,  manually  removing  it  with  a  tooth  bursh  and  the  planiting  forceps.
 
 I  started  EI,  I  had  no  control  over  ADA  and  didnt  know  if  the  dose  was  more  etc.  I  could  have  been  less  nitrates,  the  light  or  the  distrurbed  substrate.  The  substrate  is  multi  layered  and  when  i  siphoned  to  remove  the  wilted  moss  debry,  I  took  off  most  of  the  top  layer  in  places  and  exposed  the  peat  moss.  Peat  moss  stores  nutrients  and  the  excess  of  nutrients  along  with  the  fresh  high  powered  lights  could  have  caused  it.  It  could  have  the  cauvery  water  that  had  started  flowing  into  my  area.  This  was  a  disaster.
 
 Three  weeks  of  manual  cleaining  and  the  tank  was  starting  to  takes  shape.  There  was  no  slow  down  of  growth.  The  plants  were  responding  well  to  EI  dosing.
 
 Well  here  goes,  this  is  tank  as  of  now,  after  the  four  month  long  journey.  Must  say  it  is  shaping  out  well..
 
 Aromatica
 
 
 
 
 
 Denisoni
 
 
 
 
 
 Lemons
 
 
 
 Rummynose
 
 
 
 Staurogyne
 
 
 
 
 Lone  L.  Peruensis
 
 
 
 Oto
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 HC  on  a  Skewer
 
 
 
 Tank  Shots
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 12:49 am Post subject: Re: RESONATE Reply with quote

 Those  LEDs  really  giving  it  a  grand  look  Smile  all  the  best  Sam
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 2:01 pm Post subject: Re: RESONATE Reply with quote

 +1  Bettaji...........
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 11:59 pm Post subject: Re: RESONATE Reply with quote

 Thanks  Bettaji  and  Abhis9.  Shelly  really  did  a  fantastic  job  with  the  LED  lighiting.  I'll  post  some  pics  of  the  lighting  and  the  fixture  that  I  used  to  hang  it  in  a  couple  of  days.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 11:19 am Post subject: Update 19-03 Reply with quote

 Had  to  take  the  Plecos  out  today.  I  had  got  them  in  there  when  I  had  slimy  diatom  /  hairlike  algae  in  there.  They  did  clean  up  the  muck.  However  when  the  algae  went  down,  they  started  searching  for  food  and  the  search  for  food  only  intensified  over  the  past  couple  of  days,  they  actually  moved  out  the  normal  feeding  grounds  and  started  looking  for  algae  on  the  tooth  picks  that  are  holding  the  HC.  Result,  HC  is  getting  uprooted  again.
 
 They  are  in  the  holding  tank  for  now.  
 
 Anybody,  who  is  kept  plecos  in  a  tank  with  HC?  Any  pointers  to  keep  the  HC  grounded  with  plecos  around  in  the  long  run  after  the  HC  grows  in  and  gets  rooted?
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 27, 2013 5:22 pm Post subject: Discus Discus Reply with quote

 I  was  looking  around  to  check  if  Discus  fish  were  available.  Didnot  have  any  idea  of  buying  one  now  but  found  these  guys  on  OLX  and  went  and  got  it  from  their  owner  who  is  going  onsite  and  wanted  a  home  for  them.
 
 I  wanted  only  two  to  start  with  but  he  had  three  and  was  insistent  that  I  take  all  three.
 
 The  Little  one
 
 
 
 The  in-between
 
 
 
 The  Big  One
 
 
 
 The  group
 
 
 
 The  Big  One
 
 
 
 The  little  One
 
 
 
 They  are  in  the  holding  tank  for  now.  Will  be  in  there  for  a  couple  of  weeks  till  they  are  ready  to  be  moved  to  the  big  tank.
 Will  keep  posting  progress.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 28, 2013 1:10 pm Post subject: Re: RESONATE Reply with quote

 They  (Discus)  are  in  your  planted  tank  now  !!
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 28, 2013 2:15 pm Post subject: Re: RESONATE Reply with quote

 Hi  Abhis9,
 
 No  the  Discus  are  not  in  the  planted  tank  now.  They  are  in  the  holding  tank.  I  want  to  make  sure  I  do  the  following  things  before  I  put  the  discus  in  the  tank.
 
 Make  the  last  changes  to  the  layout  -  Time  is  running  out  and  HC  is  not  doing  well.  Sometime  during  the  next  week,  I  am  going  to  replace  the  HC  with  Glosso  for  the  carpet  on  the  left  hand  side.
 
 This  will  mean  that  I  wont  be  making  changes  and  distrubing  the  substrate  after  the  Discus  are  in  there.  This  should  take  about  3  weeks.
 
 I  also  have  to  get  a  solenoid  to  regulate  CO2  in  the  night.  Discus  are  extremely  sensetive  and  I  dont  want  CO2  poisoning  from  a  malfunction  in  the  night.
 
 Finalize  my  fertlizing  regime.  I  have  been  making  changes  to  my  fertilizing  regime  as  I  moved  from  ADA  to  EI  and  now  am  moving  to  MCI.  I  have  to  finalize  the  amount  of  KNO3  needed  for  my  tank  on  a  weekly  basis  and  the  amount  of  micros.  There  have  been  a  couple  of  instances  of  overdosing  of  micros  as  I  am  not  sure  of  how  much  of  step  2  ADA  to  use.  
 
 I  have  to  get  all  these  things  in  place  before  I  introduce  the  Discus  to  the  planted  tank.  
 
 If  you  have  suggestions,  please  let  me  know.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 29, 2013 12:27 am Post subject: Re: RESONATE Reply with quote

 Hi  Sam,
 
 I  would  say  for  plants  as  delicate  as  HC  you  shouldn't  be  keeping  fishes  until  they  start  growing.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 29, 2013 10:37 pm Post subject: Re: RESONATE Reply with quote

 Jabba,  Hind  sight  is  20/20.  I  would  absolutely  agree.  But  I  got  impatient  and  got  myself  into  this  situation  where  the  fishes  wont  just  let  the  HC  root.  Time  is  running  out  and  I  want  to  get  the  tank  ready  for  some  contest  and  therefore  am  switching  to  a  foreground  of  Glosso.  I  should  have  Glosso  in  there  by  next  week.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 11:09 am Post subject: Re: RESONATE Reply with quote

 +1  Jabba
 
 Also  how  long  Glosso  will  take  to  form  a  carpet!!   
 
 Remember  "Patience  is  the  Key  of  Success"  which  I  gain  from  my  practical  experience.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 10:04 am Post subject: Re: RESONATE Reply with quote

 Its  been  almost  a  month  since  my  last  post.  The  tank  has  changed  some  after  that.  I  had  a  heavy  green  dust  algae  break  out,  which  was  brought  under  control  and  I  can  say  is  eliminated.  Switched  to  MCI.  I  hardly  dose  phosphate.  The  tank  requireds  ~4gms  of  KNO3  everyday  and  I  also  dose  micro  ferts  every  twice  or  thrice  a  week  -  ADA  step2.
 
 I  also  put  the  Discus  into  the  tank  and  they  are  doing  pretty  well.  Feed  them  Discus  biogold  and  also  BHM.  They  did  a  turn  a  bit  dark  when  I  put  them  in,  but  now  are  back  to  normal.
 
 Here  are  some  pics.  The  Gloss  planted  as  the  foreground  is  growing  in,  but  is  taking  its  own  sweet  time,  but  is  much  faster  than  HC  and  far  less  demanding.  I  am  finding  it  to  keep  the  tenellus  at  bay.  This  thing  grows  like  wild  fire.  I  started  off  with  one  stem  and  it  was  not  intentional.  It  can  with  some  other  plant  that  I  bought  and  look  at  it  now.  The  tank  is  due  for  a  trim  next  week.
 
 Here  are  the  pics  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Let  me  know  what  you  think.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 10:26 am Post subject: Re: RESONATE Reply with quote

 Hi  Sam,
 
 Nice  tank.  Beautiful  group  of  Cardinal  Tetra.  Looks  really  health.
 
 But  feeling  really  sorry  about  your  Discus.  My  eyes  says  they  are  not  ok.  God  help  them.
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 Well  all  I  can  say  right  now  is  that  "Your  eyes  decieve  you"  my  friend.  Unless  there  is  something  specific  that  you  can  point  out.  They  move  around  normall,  eat  well  and  are  in  the  open  90%  of  the  time.  They  have  not  peppered  a  great  deal  and  look  happy.  The  pecking  order  is  in  accordance  with  their  size.  The  middle   bullies  the  small  one  normally,  so  I  have  to  put  some  extra  food  for  them.  They  eat  flake  food,  Bio-gold,  BHM  and  show  a  healthy  appetite.  Initially,  they  used  to  hide  when  I  put  my  hands  in,  but  now  they  are  used  to  my  hand  also  in  there.  Loud  noise  irritates  them  but   other  than  that  they  are  pretty  happy.  I  have  checked  their  forheads  and  they  have  remained  consistent  and  there  has  been  no  thinning.
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