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PostPosted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 7:34 pm Post subject: Extra Clear Tanks - 3 feet & 2 feet Reply with quote

 Technical  Director  -  Athreyan
 3+  feet  Developer   -  Senthil
 2  feet  Developer  -  Hari
 Silicon  Consultant  -  Ravi
 Glass  Consultant  -  Venkat
 
 Week  1  -  Saturday  -   We  hunted  for  the  extra  clear  glass  from  Parrys.  But  we  did  not  buy  as  no  one  guaranteed  us  from  scratches.  Disappointed,  I  check  with  Venkat,  who  informed  me  that  minor  scratches  will  not  be  visible  when  filled  with  water.  We  also  consulted  Athreyan  who  informed  us  that  he  had  experience  building  2  large  tanks.  
 
 We  asked  him  for  his  help  and  guidance  in  building  ours  and  he  happily  agreed.
 
 Week  2  -  Saturday  -  So,  we  went  back  to  Parry's  to  order.  This  stage  we  were  confused  on  what  Silicone  to  use.  Consulted  Ravi,  who  gave  us  the  best,  but  procuring  it  became  a  tedious  process.  So,  we  decided  on  2nd  best,  and  settled  on  GP  -  2  tubes  each.  (We  used  only  3/4th  tube  each)
 We  procured  all  materials  from  Parrys  -  around  Devaraja  Mudali  street.  The  glass  we  ordered  from  Prasad  who  again  informed  us  that  he  would  try  his  best  that  he  does  not  get  a  scratch.  
 
 List  of  Materials:
 1.  Extra  Clear  Glass  (Took  measurement  from  http://www.theaquatools.com/building-your-aquarium)  (Rs.2xx  per  sq  feet)
 2.  Silicone  GP  -  4  tubes  (Ensure  they  give  u  the  tube  dispenser  for  each)
 3.  Silicone  Gun  (Rs.150)
 4.  Masking  tape  -  2  rolls  (Rs.20  each)  (We  made  a  mistake  of  getting  a  local  tape  which  had  a  problem  sticking  well.  Pls  go  for  3M  if  available)
 5.  Gloves  (Rs.3  each)  (Forgot  to  use  this!)
 6.  Set  Squares  (Rs.12-20)  (Senthil  had  his..but  I  forgot  where  I  placed  mine,  luckily  my  neighbor's  son  gave  me)
 7.  A  Mat  to  place  on  floor
 8.  Old  Newspapers
 9.  4  Hands  (5  Hands..if  you  planned  to  shoot  photos.  Just  dont  handle  silicone  or  u  cannot  shoot  any  more  photos)
 10.  1  inch  thermo  coal  sheet  (Rs.45  per  sheet)
 
 Week  3  -  Saturday  -  Hired  a  driver...tough  to  go  inside  Devaraja  Mudali  street  and  next  to  impossible  to  get  a  parking.  Got  all  the  glass  by  12.30pm.  No  scratches.  
 
 Came  back  home.  Called  Athreyan  who  granted  us  his  availability  for  that  day  itself!  First  setup  3  feet  @  Senthil  house.
 All  glasses  were  taped.  For  the  bottom,  we  kept  a  3mm  gap  and  for  the  sides  around  2mm  for  any  additional  silicon.  When  taping  the  sides,  our  director  had  a  very  steady  hand  and  steady  sight.  Not  even  1mm  out  of  place.  Taping  took  us  around  2  hours.  By  us,  I  mean  the  director  Athreyan  and  Developer  Senthil.  I  was  busy  taking  photos,  lifting  glass  and  placing  and  taking  angles  to  see  if  they  were  at  90  degrees.  This  did  irritate  our  technical  director  many  times.  :)
 
 For  sticking  the  director  informed  us  of  2  methods.  Put  all  silicon  and  stick  at  once  or  stick  it  side  by  side.  We  took  the  2nd  method.  So,  back  went  up  first,  the  sides  and  finally  the  front.  As  usual,  again,  I  kept  the  set  square  to  ensure  the  right  angles  when  we  were  doing...which  the  technical  director  felt  was  unnecessary.  
 Method:  Stuck  the  edges  to  the  bottom  of  the  glass.
 
 
 
 
 
 At  the  end  except  for  2  small  corrections,  the  technical  director  had  precisely  stuck  everything.  Anyway...I  did  contribute  something  for  perfection!  After  sticking  cleaned  out  hands  with  newspapers.  (I  forgot  the  gloves)  and  planned  for  a  trip  to  my  house.  Time  taken  to  assemble  at  Senthil's  house:  Around  2.5  hours.
 
 Athreyan  came  to  my  house  and  we  started  assembling.  Same  process  as  done  for  Senthil  but  this  time  sticking  was  over  in  around  40  minutes.  This  time  he  let  me  handle  the  gun.  I  had  a  very  steady  hand  and  all  sticking  was  over  in  10  minutes...but  what  a  mess..the  silicon  had  leaked  and  some  fell  on  glass,  some  on  floor..  some  I  had  stamped  and  put  marks  on  the  floor.  Anyway,  assembling  was  over  in  less  than  1  hour.  We  had  became  experienced  by  1  aquarium.
 
 We  thanked  (and  still  thank  Athreyan)  who  helped  us  learn  the  art  of  sticking  glass  for  aquarium  and  also  helped  us  to  make  our  clear  tanks.  
 
 I  waited  for  2  days  for  everything  to  dry  out.  and  then  wanted  to  take  to  the  bathroom  for  checking  for  leaks.  Guess  what!  Could  not  lift  the  tank  now  as  a  single  person.  (28  kgs)  Next  day,  called  a  neighbor  to  help  move  it  to  the  bathroom.  Today  is  the  2nd  day  of  water  in  tank.  I  will  mostly  siphon  off  all  water  by  evening,  do  a  bit  of  cleaning  before  tank  is  finally  ready.  Posting  the  picture  of  the  tank  taken  2  days  before.
 
 
 
 
 
 I  was  talking  with  Senthil  yesterday  and  discussed  what  we  could  have  done  better.  Some  thoughts  towards  perfection!
 Lessons  Learnt:
 1.  When  you  take  delivery  of  the  glass,  place  each  glass  side  on  another  glass  and  check  for  smooth  consistency.  It  should  not  wobble  or  shake.  2  glasses  for  me  and  2  for  Senthil  has  1  mm  unevenness,  which  we  could  cover  with  silicon,  but  nevertheless  it  was  less  than  perfect.
 
 2.  Check  all  glasses  for  clarity
 
 3.  Keep  all  materials  purchased  in  one  place.  At  the  time  of  assembly  ...  I  forgot  the  gloves  and  set  squares.
 
 4.  When  going  for  ADA  style  aquarium,  do  not  leave  any  gap  for  sides.  For  aquarium  up  to  4  feet,  the  silicone  on  glass  is  good  enough.  Additional  not  required.
 
 5.  When  putting  silicone  on  glass,  have  a  smooth  line  3mm  in  width.  The  one  with  the  steady  hand  is  the  best  suited  for  it.
 
 6.  When  putting  glass  on  the  inside,  put  a  smooth  line,  wait  for  around  2  minutes  and  press  to  the  corner.  Do  not  spread!  
 
 7.  Remove  the  tape  on  the  sides  after  you  put  silicone  on  all  sides.  This  step  helps  u  to  remove  excess  silicone  before  it  spreads.
 
 For  my  next  project  -  I  am  planning  on  a  CREE  or  better  LED  light  setup.  I  am  cross  checking  info  from  here  for  requirement  analysis.  -  http://americanaquariumproducts.com/Aquarium_Lighting.html


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 8:04 pm Post subject: Re: Extra Clear Tanks - 3 feet & 2 feet Reply with quote

 Wow  Super  Hari!!!
 what  was  the  cost  of  crystal  clear  glass?  I  am  planning  for  a  6ft  long  tank.
 
 Wish  you  guys  were  here  to  help  me  out  to  put  the  tank  in  place.
 
 Keep  us  updated  with  the  water  test.
 
 All  the  best!!
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 8:46 pm Post subject: Re: Extra Clear Tanks - 3 feet & 2 feet Reply with quote

 Hi  Hari4Green,   
 Good  Director  and  Good  developer  with  the  Good  consultants.   I  wish  you  this  project  runs  for  ever.
 
 I  kept  the  set  square  to  ensure  the  right  angles  when  we  were  doing...which  the  technical  director  felt  was  unnecessary.  
 As  for  as  my  knowledge  the  set  square  shoud  be  used  only  for  cutting.   Once  the  cutting  is  all  in  90  degrees,  everything  will  be  OK.
 
 Minor  scratches  can  be  neglected,  as  it  is  not  possible  in  glass  wares.
 
 Once  again  I  congratulate  your  whole  team  for  a  nice  project.  Convey  my  best  wishes  to  one  and  all.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 9:00 pm Post subject: Re: Extra Clear Tanks - 3 feet & 2 feet Reply with quote

 Thank  you  Lakshmanan  and  Janardhanam  sir.  
 
 @Mr.Janardhanam  -  I  had  seen  some  videos  when  the  glass  was  assembled.  A  set  square  was  kept  that  it  was  in  right  angles.  (He  had  used  the  larger  one  used  for  carpentry/engineering  purposes)  but  some  videos  used  a  smaller  square,  so  went  for  the  cheaper  alternative.
 
 Thanks  to  the  team  for  all  the  learning.  It  was  a  good  DIY  experience  which  I  would  like  to  do  again.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 10:28 pm Post subject: Re: Extra Clear Tanks - 3 feet & 2 feet Reply with quote

 Hey  really  nice  work   Thumbs Up  ,  how  Good  was  the  silicon  finish??was  it  as  Good  as  an  Ada  aquarium??   
 and  could  you  post  some  pics   of  the  silicon  work?  
 
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 04, 2013 10:29 am Post subject: Re: Extra Clear Tanks - 3 feet & 2 feet Reply with quote

 @Hari:  'technical  director'?  Shocked  really?  sounds  too  elitist  for  me.  I'd  rather  go  labour  class.  Silicone  technician?!?!?!  Considering  the  other  uses  silicone  is  put  to,  it'll  be  interesting!  ROFL  
 
 Thanks  all.  It  was  fun  at  the  build  with  the  guys.  Some  great  hospitality  too!  Awesome  coffee  (Senthil's  mom),  'sundal',  apples!,  grapes  (only  the  fresh  ones).  Good  way  to  spend  a  weekend
 
 Oh!  I'm  on  another  build  too!  will  post  a  new  thread  soon.
 
 @Deepak:  I  wouldn't  rate  it  as  even  close  to  ADA.  But  we're  hoping  to  get  there  with  some  practice,  and  mostly  confidence.  We  made  the  seams  a  bit  thicker,  i  take  the  blame  for  that.  I  wasn't  exactly  confident  enough  to  pearl  only  the  joint  area.  ADA  tanks  are  made  through  sophisticated  manufacturing  processes  and  highly  skilled  &  experienced  technicians.  I  don't  know  how  a  hand-build  would  stand  up  to  that.  But  we  all  keep  trying,  don't  we?   Whip   Whip   Whip
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 04, 2013 11:18 am Post subject: Re: Extra Clear Tanks - 3 feet & 2 feet Reply with quote

 Try  to  see  any  tank  made  by  Buro  from  Kolkata.  According  to  my  experience  his  making  is  the  best  now.  Every  ADA  meet
 in  Bangalore  he  present  there  with  Goutam  Gupta  (ADA  distributor  in  Kolkata).  I  can  compare  his  finish  with  any  ADA  tank.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 04, 2013 6:53 pm Post subject: Re: Extra Clear Tanks - 3 feet & 2 feet Reply with quote

 Well  done  team.  Nice  Work  Thumbs Up  
 
 Thanks  for  sharing  information  (Lessons  Learnt)
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 Awesome,  nice...will  keep  this  as  reckoner   Thumb Up
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 rocking  tank  mate  
 looking  forward  towards  the  final  setup  man  Rock On   Rock On   Rock On
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 17, 2014 5:08 pm Post subject: Re: Extra Clear Tanks - 3 feet & 2 feet Reply with quote

 That  is  not  extra  clear  glass....
 I  think  your  lack  of  knowledge  the  supplier  cheated  you
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 17, 2014 5:14 pm Post subject: Re: Extra Clear Tanks - 3 feet & 2 feet Reply with quote

 Mr  abhis9....
 What's  so  technical  with  glass  tank  making  the  differentiates  from  supier  to  supplier?  
 I'll  put  up  few  reason...
 Firstly  the  quality  of  glass  then  the  precise  measurements  before  cutting.  Right  tools  used  for  cutting  which  deviates  in  only  +-   .5  mm.  Then  sanding  the  edges  on  a  belt  sander,  buffing  the  glass.  Masking  tape  area  and  plot.  Silicone  type,  dispenser,  workbench  parallity.  Last  but  not  least  good  eyesight.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 17, 2014 10:45 pm Post subject: Re: Extra Clear Tanks - 3 feet & 2 feet Reply with quote

                                                   
Murtazadhanera  wrote  (View  Post):                
That  is  not  extra  clear  glass....
 I  think  your  lack  of  knowledge  the  supplier  cheated  you                

 
 Mustazadhanera  ...  This  is  a  very  old  thread.  That  is  extra  clear  glass.  I  know  the  supplier  well.  We  have  collectively  assembled  4  tanks  from  him.  Sorry,  you  are  wrong.  You  clearly  lack  knowledge  and  manners  too!
 If  you  are  in  Chennai,  I  would  invite  u  to  have  a  look.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 10:40 am Post subject: Re: Extra Clear Tanks - 3 feet & 2 feet Reply with quote

 Nice  tank  in  the  making  .....congrats  ......!!  Thumb Up
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