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PostPosted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 1:28 am Post subject: Lighting for Moss tank Reply with quote

 My  new  tank  for  moss  is  ready...confused  on  what  should  i  put  on  for  lighting   Confused  
 
 Tank  spec..
 
 36''x15''x18''  -  comes  around  150L/40  G..
 
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 what  should  be  WPG  for  moss?
 Do  I  need  to  use  C02  for  moss?  and  ideal  BPS
 
 Looking  for  some  DIY  lighting  stuff....Can  I  use  T5HO  in  DIY?  or  should  i  go  for  LED  floodlight  setup...
 
 Thanks  in  advance  for  the  guidance  Smile
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 5:46 am Post subject: Re: Lighting for Moss tank Reply with quote

 Good  luck  Senthil  :)
 
 As  for  as  I  know  2wpg  should  do,  more  than  that  chillness  and  flow  rate  should  be  high  for  good  moss  growth
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 10:01 am Post subject: Re: Lighting for Moss tank Reply with quote

 add  10w  flood  lights.....
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 11:46 am Post subject: Re: Lighting for Moss tank Reply with quote

 Normal  T5  lights  will  do  just  fine,  you  can  Diy  them.  Yes  the  moss  will  also  benefit  from  DIY  CO2  just  like  any  other  plant  but  you  wont  be  able  to  sustain  it  properly  in  a  tank  your  size  which  will  lead  to  algae.  You  can  connect  2-3  DIY  bottles  in  series  then  that  should  do  the  trick.  Start  the  bottles  a  few  days  apart
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 11:49 am Post subject: Re: Lighting for Moss tank Reply with quote

 Thanks  Gokul..Going  as  per  you  suggestion...It  works  out  to  80W...then  2  39W  T5HO  would  do,
 
 @  Veeral...Will  3x10W  LED  flood  light  be  enough...or  should  i  go  for  3x20W?  Considering  the  length  of  the  tank  is  just  3feet  to  accommodate  the  lighting...
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 12:04 pm Post subject: Re: Lighting for Moss tank Reply with quote

 I  would  suggest  2  x  39Watts  T5HO  tubes..  That  would  be  like  a  medium  lit  tank.
 
 Are  there  any  plans  to  use  ferts  in  the  tank?  If  you  are  planning  to  use  ferts,  then  you  would  have  to  provide  CO2  also.  Either  way  too..
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 2:51 pm Post subject: Re: Lighting for Moss tank Reply with quote

                                                   
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Thanks  Gokul..Going  as  per  you  suggestion...It  works  out  to  80W...then  2  39W  T5HO  would  do,
 
 @  Veeral...Will  3x10W  LED  flood  light  be  enough...or  should  i  go  for  3x20W?  Considering  the  length  of  the  tank  is  just  3feet  to  accommodate  the  lighting...                

 
 For  moss  10  is  enough,  or  if  you  are  planning  to  keep  open  top,  and  hang  the  lights  high,  then  u  can  go  for  20w.  go  for  4x10w  or  3x20w
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 4:18 pm Post subject: Re: Lighting for Moss tank Reply with quote

 @  Mortis..thanks  for  the  suggestions..got  one  CO2  cylinder  will  use  for  this  setup..will  aim  for  2-3  BPS...
 
 @  Shelly...thanks  planning  to  dose  just  micros  for  Moss...As  I  get  algae  on  moss  when  i  dose  macros..
 
 @  Veeral  -  It  will  be  a  open  top,  will  either  place  the  light  setup  on  top  or  will  use  hanging...
 
 I  think  I  am  back  to  square  one   Surprised
 choosing  between  LED/T5HO...   Shocked  
 taking  into  consideration  best  result  for  moss  growth  which  one  to  choose  Confused  
 Also  which  material  will  be  good/easy  to  use  for  making  DIY  lighting  case?
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 10:58 am Post subject: Re: Lighting for Moss tank Reply with quote

 I  would  worry  more  about  chilling  the  tank  then  lights  for  Chennai.  Smile
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 12:35 pm Post subject: Re: Lighting for Moss tank Reply with quote

 Hey  Senthil,
 get  LEDs  man.  even  though  the  initial  cost  may  be  high.  you  can  use  them  for  a  long  time  without  worries.  T5s  have  to  be  replaced  ever  so  often  just  to  keep  the  spectrum.
 
 Building  either  is  the  same  level  of  difficulty  IMO.
 
 Sandeep:  He  already  has  a  hailea  chiller.   Thumb Up
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 5:51 pm Post subject: Re: Lighting for Moss tank Reply with quote

 Athreyan  :  The  changing  tubes  is  a  bit  of  a  myth.  It  may  have  been  true  for  T12s  back  in  the  day  but  now  with  T5  lights  the  change  is  so  minimal  you  wont  even  notice  and  anyways  it  will  have  miniscule  influence  on  the  look  of  the  tank  and  the  growth  rates  of  the  plants.  Trust  me
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 8:41 pm Post subject: Re: Lighting for Moss tank Reply with quote

 iv  been  growing  moss  and  ferns  under  t5ho  and  led  flood,  iv  never  changed  the  tubes.  led  flood  last  for  3yrs  minimum  +  the  creat  less  heat  +  save  on  electricity  +  are  really  intense  +  gives  a  beautiful  shimmer  effect  +  10w  led  flood  =  50w  MH
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 8:48 pm Post subject: Re: Lighting for Moss tank Reply with quote

 MH  means?
 
 Are  you  sure  10w  led  equivalent  of  50w?  Is  it  not  the  lumens  makes  the  difference?
 
 Wish  I  didn't  want  to  change  the  context  of  this  thread  Surprised
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 10:03 am Post subject: Re: Lighting for Moss tank Reply with quote

 @Mortis:  Thanks  for  that  heads  up.
 
 +1  Veeral:  Energy  efficiency  is  one  area  for  us  (aquarists)  to  look  into.  Not  just  for  our  own  electricity  bills.  But  for  overall  energy  savings  for  a  greater  good.  If  there  are  10000  aquarists  who  install  LEDs  and  save  about  100W  each  on  a  weekly  basis.  That's  1MW  of  power  saved  every  week!   Surprised  thats  52  MW  annually!  That's  the  output  of  some  hydro-power  plants.
 
 @Gokul:  Don't  get  too  confused.  What  Veeral  meant  was  that  a  10W  LED  has  the  same  luminance  of  a  50W  MH  light.  That  is  the  amount  of  light  is  equivalent  (almost)  but  the  power  consumption  is  only  20%.
 
 MH  =  Metal  Halide.  They  are  a  type  of  high  end  lighting  solution  used  by  aquarists.  These  are  slowly  losing  popularity  due  to  advancements  in  technology  vis-a-vis  T5HOs,  LED  lighting  etc.  MH  lights  consume  a  lot  of  electricity,  they  have  large  heat  loads  and  are  also  large  in  size.  Today's  technology  with  LEDs  etc  have  made  lighting  more  energy  efficient,  low  heat  build  up  and  also  contribute  to  some  sleek  design  possibilities.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 1:02 pm Post subject: Re: Lighting for Moss tank Reply with quote

 10W  led  floodlight  is  equal  to  11  or  12W  MAX  that  too  only  if  you  get  the  best  quality  ones.  Its  nowhere  close  to  a  50W  MH.  
 In  best  case  scenario  it  would  have  a  tiny  bit  more  depth  penetration  while  losing  out  light  spread  and  it  has  the  shimmer  effect  and  smaller  footprint
 Thats  it
 
 When  a  14W  T5  costs  around  200  and  a  10W  Led  magic  floodlight  costs  450,  it  is  up  to  you  to  choose  which  suits  you  better
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