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Is Sand like grvels safe for gold fish?

 
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 19, 2013 6:46 pm Post subject: Is Sand like grvels safe for gold fish? Reply with quote

 Hi  to  all  members,  
                                        I  am  extremely  new  to  this  forum,  when  i  just  went  thru  some  topics  and  the  pics  that  have  been  posted,  its  cool  &  nice,  although  i  cant  afford  that  much  big  tank,  i  have  a  tank  with  measurement  of  2.5  ft  width  and  1.5  ft  height
                                       Just  a  month  before  i  decided  to  change  the  set  up  of  my  tank  with  some  sand  like  gravels  and  with  under  gravel  filter,  already  i  was  using  a  power  filter  and  i  don't  know  its  capacity  and  other  things,  in  the  past  month  i  just  lost  five  goldfishes,  one  by  one,  when  i  searched  for  reasons  in  online,  that  under  gravel  filters  may  block  some  essential  bacteria  growth,  and  i  disconnected  the  under  gravel  filter  from  the  air  pump,  things  developed  well  and  no  fish  died,  but  yesterday  i  lost  another  goldfish  as  it  lost  its  tail,  i  am  totally  confused  and  sad  with  the  things  happening  for  the  past  few  weeks.
                                     I  wish  u  experienced  members  can  guide  me  thru  this,  i  am  yet  to  replace  new  fish  for  the  dead  ones,  i  have  also  attached  my  new  tank  setup  with  this.......
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 20, 2013 9:25 am Post subject: Re: Is Sand like grvels safe for gold fish? Reply with quote

 The  most  basic  thing  is  to  keep  the  filtration  ON.  You  CANNOT  switch  off  the  filter  at  any  cost.
 There  is  nothing  wrong  with  under-gravel  filters.  You  can  use  it  without  any  problems.  The  only  problem  with  your  tank  is  that,  you  cannot  use  fine  sand  with  an  under  gravel  filter.  The  sand  will  clog  the  UG  plates  and  render  the  filter  useless.  Use  small  sized  gravel.  It  will  work  well  with  the  UG  filter.
 
 the  other  point  being,  your  tank  is  overloaded  with  fish  &  the  wrong  types  of  fish.  For  a  tank  of  that  size,  you  can  stock  about  3  or  max  4  goldfish.  The  kois  that  you  have  belong  to  a  pond.  And  that  'shark'  will  grow  too  big  for  your  tank.
 
 please  give  all  details  of  your  tank  so  that  people  can  help  you  better.
 
 tank  dimensions
 fish  stock
 filtration
 water  parameters  (if  available)  -  what  water  you  use  -  ground  water,  corporation  water,  RO  water  etc.
 water  change  schedule  -  how  often  &  how  much  water  you  change.  how  you  do  tank  maintenance.
 how  long  the  tank  has  been  running
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 20, 2013 6:39 pm Post subject: Re: Is Sand like grvels safe for gold fish? Reply with quote

 Right  on  spot  athreyan
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 23, 2013 12:39 pm Post subject: Re: Is Sand like grvels safe for gold fish? Reply with quote

 My  Tank  Dimensions  are  below.......
                                 80cms  breadth,  60cms  height,  15cms  width
                                 Initially  i  had  four  pairs  of  gold  fish,  1pair  of  koi,  and  one  shark
                                 I  make  a  80%  water  change  of  every  month  and  total  tank  cleaning  of  every  three  months,  i  never  switch  off  my  power  filters,  the  tank  was  running  for  the  past  three  years.....
                              Should  i  use  two  power  filters  instead  of  one?
                              I  use  only  borewell  water  but  not  directly  from  under  ground,  i  will  take  it  from  my  over  head  tank,  regarding  the  contents  of  water,  i  don't  know  where  to  check  it?   i  am  based  in  chennai  tell  me  the  address  where  they  are  checking  it?
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 23, 2013 1:32 pm Post subject: Re: Is Sand like grvels safe for gold fish? Reply with quote

 are  you  sure  the  width  is  15cms?   Surprised   That  is  only  6  inches  or  half  a  foot!
 
 That  is  only  a  20  gallon  tank!  you  can  have  only  one  gold  fish  in  that  tank.
 
 Firstly,  what  I  suggest  is  that  you  give  these  fishes  away  &  get  fishes  that  suit  your  aquarium.  On  the  other  hand,  if  goldfish  is  your  choice,  then  buy  a  tank  large  enough  for  them.  If  you  want  to  keep  4  goldfish,  then  the  minimum  is  a  40  gallon  tank  (approx.  3ft  x  1.5ft  x  1.5ft)
 
 For  the  size  of  your  tank,  you  can  house  some  mollies,  platies,  guppies,  or  even  some  tetras  or  barbs.  But  not  golds,  sharks,  and  definitely  not  Kois.
 
 Please  decide  on  what  you  want  to  do  &  post  back.  You  will  get  a  lot  of  assistance  on  this  forum.  The  point  is  to  plan  first,  learn  next  &  then  act  upon  it.
 
 water  changes  must  be  done  atleast  once  in  2  weeks.  once  a  week  is  the  best.  For  a  non-planted  tank  such  as  yours,  you  can  do  a  20%  water  change  every  week.  But  never  do  a  complete  wash  of  the  tank.  This  resets  the  nitrogen  cycle  &  it  could  be  very  harmful  for  your  fishes.  Never  change  more  than  50  or  60  %  water.
 
 every  week  take  out  the  decorations  from  your  tank  and  clean  them  thoroughly.  Clean  the  inside  of  the  glass  with  a  toothbrush  or  if  you  can  spend  the  money,  a  magnetic  glass  cleaner.  Then  use  a  hose  to  siphon  out  the  water.  While  siphoning,  you  can  run  it  close  to  your  gravel  so  that  detritus  is  sucked  out.  then  fill  the  tank  back  with  fresh  water.  Fill  it  up  slowly  using  a  hose  and  your  hand  to  reduce  the  speed  of  water.  pouring  water  will  cause  a  huge  disturbance  &  will  stress  your  fish  and  also  cause  an  ammonia  spike.
 
 If  you  want,  every  three  or  four  months,  you  can  shove  your  hose  into  the  pipe  of  your  UG  filter  and  suck  out  some  of  the  detritus.  Again,  don't  remove  the  entire  thing.
 
 Mostly  ground  water  will  not  cause  any  problems.  If  you're  able  to  drink  it  without  any  foul  taste  (salty  or  hard),  or  any  coloration.  Then  most  probably  your  water  is  ok.  Water  testing  is  an  expensive  affair.  There  are  test  kits  available  in  some  big  LFS.  If  you  want  to  test  your  water,  then  get  a  good  reputed  brand  test  kit.  Cheap  test  kits  can  be  inaccurate.
 
 But  for  now,  don't  worry  about  the  water.  think  about  your  fish  &  your  maintenance.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 28, 2013 11:29 am Post subject: Re: Is Sand like grvels safe for gold fish? Reply with quote

 Thanks  Athreyan,
                                             Where  can  i  get  mollies  in  chennai,  i  searched  few  shops  near  central  they  don't  have  that  kind,  can  i  keep  a  balloon  molly,  will   it  be  suitable  for  my  tank,  as  i  have  a  one  and  half  year  son  he  would  be  pretty  attracted  to  colored  fishes,  that's  why  i  am  opting  for  this  types............
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 28, 2013 11:06 pm Post subject: Re: Is Sand like grvels safe for gold fish? Reply with quote

 Satish  you  are  you  aware  about  nitrogen  cycle,  if  not  please  do  that.  From  your  posts  it  looks  like  you  need  to  read  about  cycling  of  tank.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 12:32 am Post subject: Re: Is Sand like grvels safe for gold fish? Reply with quote

 Here  you  Go  Satish.....  Read  all  the  links  given  in  the  below  post  and  come  back  with  questions
 
 http://indianaquariumhobbyist.com/community/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=32896
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 13, 2013 8:40 pm Post subject: Re: Is Sand like grvels safe for gold fish? Reply with quote

 How  many  pair  of  barbs  can  i  have  in  my  tank?
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