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Filter advice - newbie!!!

 
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Which Filter type for a newbie with a 90 litre / 24 gallon tank
Canister
62%
 62%  [ 5 ]
HOB (Hanging on Back)
25%
 25%  [ 2 ]
Internal
12%
 12%  [ 1 ]
Submersible
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 0%  [ 0 ]
Undergravel
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 06, 2014 5:19 pm Post subject: Filter advice - newbie!!! Reply with quote

 Tried  searching  through  the  various  threads  here,  and  still  one  question  remains  unanswered.
 
 What  Filter  Type?
 
 Canister,  HOB,  internal,  submersible,  or  something  else?
 
 I  got  most  of  the  experienced  people  on  this  forum  saying  undergravel  filter  is  a  bother,  and  I  agree,  so,  which  one  to  buy.
 
 I  am  a  n00b  (newbie)  to  this,  and  am  planning  to  setup  a  first  time  aquarium  from  scratch,  got  an  old  tank  90  litre  from  a  friend,  who  had  mothballed  it,  for  free.  Planning  to  keep  some  peaceful  fish  (community  tank  like),  but  am  still  indecisive  about  which.
 
 However,  as  per  the  explanation  of  nitrogen  cycling,  before  I  even  get  any  fish,  I  must  have  a  tank,  some  gravel,  and  a  filter.  Since  I  will  be  starting  the  process  of  procuring  the  equipment  needed  from  the  10th  AUG  2014  onwards  (salary  day   Cheering   ),  can  I  get  some  basic  advice  on  which  type  of  filter  is  best  suited  for  a  setup  of  this  kind?
 
 I  have  a  24  gallon  (90  litre)  tank,  which  means  that  I  should  get  a  filter  with  a  flow  rate  of  more  than  360  litres  per  hour  or  100  gallons  per  hour.  However,  what  is  the  best  type.  Is  there  an  inherent  advantage  of  a  canister  filter  over  a  HOB  or  an  internal  filter?  Since  canister  filters  are  larger  and  placed  away  from  the  tank,  they  are  obviously  better  in  that  aspect.  However,  how  about  differentiating  between  a  HOB  and  internal  filter?  or  internal  and  submersible?
 
 I  am  asking  because,  I  can  unfortunately  invest  in  a  filter  only  once,  unless  I  can  unload  the  current  one  unto  someone  else.  So,  budget-wise,  the  decision  has  to  be  very  very  wise.
 
 Any  and  all  help  will  be  appreciated.  Thanks  in  advance.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 06, 2014 9:16 pm Post subject: Re: Filter advice - newbie!!! Reply with quote

 It  will  depend  what  you  want  to  keep.  Planted  tank  ?  cichlid  ?  biotype?  Golds  ?Smile  Update  that  for  better  answers.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 06, 2014 10:18 pm Post subject: Re: Filter advice - newbie!!! Reply with quote

 I  would  say  you  could  do  fine  with  an  internal  power  filter  for  a  24  Gallon  tank.  I  have  a  Jebo  internal  power  filter  (900  l/hr)  running  in  my  27  gallon  Goldfish  tank  along  with  a  separate  sponge  filter.  It  works  nicely.  But  then  again  I  don't  usually  overstock  my  tanks  at  all.  If  you  plan  to  keep  a  slightly  over-stocked  tank  a  canister  would  also  be  a  good  investment.  Also,  depends  on  what  kind  of  fish  you  want  to  keep.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 06, 2014 10:55 pm Post subject: Re: Filter advice - newbie!!! Reply with quote

 A  canister  would  be  best.  2nd  option  would  be  a  good  size  HOB  since  it  would  have  a  good  media  capacity.  If  planted  then  supplement  the  HOB  with  an  internal  power  filter  for  good  flow
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 12:31 am Post subject: Re: Filter advice - newbie!!! Reply with quote

 Not  planning  for  a  planted  tank  at  the  moment,  maybe  just  a  gravel  substrate,  some  larger  rocks,  and  some  artificial  plants.
 
 Planning  for  guppies  with  mollies  /  platys  (livebearer  community  because  of  the  salt  required)  or  a  neon  /  emperor  tetra  +  some  other  small  peaceful  fish  type.
 
 Wanted  to  have  a  moonlight  gourami  pair  with  tetras,  but  stuff  I  read  on  the  net  suggests  that  the  moonlight  gouramis  might  bully  smaller  fish,  and  fin  nipping  isn't  beyond  them  after  maturity.  Any  one  who  have  kept  moonlight  gouramis,  please  advise  on  this  as  well.
 
 In  all,  since  the  gallon  per  inch  rule,  I  believe  that  I  will  keep  a  max  of  18-20  fish  at  the  most,  and  of  them,  only  about  6  of  a  kind.  So,  most  probably,  I  will  not  overstock,  till  the  first  spawning,  that  is,  after  that,  who  knows.
 
 Also,  is  it  necessary  to  have  a  backup  air  pump  /  smaller  internal  filter  handy,  in  case  the  filter  conks  off?
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 11:23 am Post subject: Re: Filter advice - newbie!!! Reply with quote

 For  the  set  up  you  have  in  mind,  I  have  had  great  success  with  UG  filters.  I  used  to  use  a  power  head  and  electrical  PVC  tubes  with  holes  punched  in  them(  and  bends  and  T's  to  join  them  )  for  the  Under  ground  channels.  You  cannot  have  small  grained  sand  for  this  type  of  filter.  I  used  river  sand  which  was  sieved  to  remove  the  finer  particles..  but,  yes  it  chokes  up  every  3-4  months,  so  you  will  have  to  stir  the  sand  to  loosen  it.
 HOB  and  Internal  power  head  is  good  too,  but  can  handle  limited  amount  of  BIO  load.  but  they  work  on  lesser  power.  
 The  best  would  be  Canister  Filters..  lots  of  space  for  media,  easy  cleaning  and  doesn't  take  up  space  in  the  tank..  These  are  like  universal,  can  be  used  on  all  kinds  of  tank  set  ups..
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 3:22 pm Post subject: Re: Filter advice - newbie!!! Reply with quote

 The  prices  of  canister  filters  are  a  bomb,  though.  The  Eheim  classic  250-2213  filter  which  I  found  to  be  the  cheapest,  happens  to  represent  the  cost  of  the  whole  budget  plan  for  a  filter,  a  backup  air  pump,  and  a  gravel  siphon.  This  single  filter  is  too  far  away  from  the  price  range  I  can  afford.
 
 Thus,  a  HOB  filter  falls  well  within  my  price  range.  I  can  afford  a  higher  flow  rate  HOB,  and  still  have  a  couple  of  tons  of  moolah  left  over  for  the  rest  of  the  accessories,  and  maybe  some  decorations.
 
 Although,  I  shall  heed  to  everyone's  advise,  and  invest  in  a  canister  filter  a  few  months  down  the  line.
 
 The  fluval  c2  looks  promising  and  tempting  though.
 
 Thanks  all  for  your  insights...
 
 
 Cheers,
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 9:08 pm Post subject: Re: Filter advice - newbie!!! Reply with quote

 Frankly  ,  with  the  type  of  stock  your  planning.  
 You  can  go  as  simple  as  2  sponge  filters  on  either  side  of  the  tank  with  weekly  20%  -  30%  water  changes.
 Does  wonders  to  your  fishes  and  sponge  filters  do  a  great  job  too.
 But  in  the  end  ,  it  is  your  money  and  your  choice.
 Good  luck.
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