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PostPosted: Tue Oct 28, 2014 12:35 am Post subject: Help with Hardscape (New Member) Reply with quote

 Hello  everyone  this  is  Subhra  from  Dehradun.  I  have  had  previous  experience  of  fish  keeping  but  those  were  the  days  I  used  to  stay  in  Kolkata.  But  here  in  dehradun  its  a  different  story.  Here  fish  keeping  with  live  plants  is  not  so  popular.  Anyway  thats  not  my  point  of  discussion  here.  With  this  post  I  intend  to  get  some  help  from  veterans  in  this  hobbies.  I  have  tried  to  arrange  my  hardscapes  as  per  the  driftwood  available  with  me.  Please  guide  me  with  the  best  arrangement.  The  tank  will  be  low  tech  and  low  light,  and  open  top.
 First  things  first  I  will  details  my  tanks  specs:
 Tank  Volume:
 36x18x18  (in  inches)  50  gals
 Substrate:
 Mineralized  soil  substrate  (garden  soil  washed  and  dried  a  couple  of  times  to  remove  any  large  chunks  and  organic  debris).
 Top  layer  with  river  gravel  (2  mm)  and  (1  mm)  at  different  places
 Lighting:
 2x40  watts  T8,  2x27  watts  cfl  (all  the  lights  will  be  fitted  with  switches  so  as  to  regulate  the  light  as  per  need)
 Filtration:
 Two  hang  on  backs  (may  include  peat  filtration  to  reduce  the  pH,  as  the  water  here  is  expected  to  have  high  pH  because  of  the  calcium  in  tap  water)
 Hardscapes:
 Driftwood  &  river  stones
 Fertilization:
 No  CO2  and  no  macros  (more  like  the  El  naturo  method  by  Diana  Walstad)  Might  use  a  little  API  CO2  booster  lower  than  the  recommended  dose.
 Plants:
 Low  light  and  root  feeders
 I  will  upload  four  set  up  pictures  of  hardscape  (4th  in  the  next  post).  Also  i  would  like  to  mention  that  my  viewing  direction  will  be  from  left  side  and  front  side.  So  please  suggest  me  how  to  go  about  this.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 28, 2014 12:39 am Post subject: Fourth Arrangement Reply with quote

 Fourth  Arrangement  
 The  only  one  with  left  sided  view
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 28, 2014 12:44 pm Post subject: Re: Help with Hardscape (New Member) Reply with quote

 IMO  the  3rd  setup  looks  good.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 28, 2014 3:42 pm Post subject: Re: Help with Hardscape (New Member) Reply with quote

 First  things  first..  garden  soil  setups  can't  have  too  much  of  slope,  because  the  maximum  height  recommended  for  garden  soil  is  1-1.5  inches.  and  the  river  sand  will  not  be  stable  with  that  kind  of  slope.  for  your  low  tech  set  up,  the  amount  of  light  cannot  exceed  more  than  100W.  so  my  suggestion  is  the  T8's  are  enough  for  the  set  up.  If  your  main  view  is  from  left  then  the  4th  one,  or  some  thing  similar  will  look  good..
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 28, 2014 9:51 pm Post subject: Re: Help with Hardscape (New Member) Reply with quote

 Thank  you  srinidhi...Ok  you  mean  to  say  the  thickness  of  the  soil  bed  or  the  total  height  of  the  capped  substrate...I  dont  know  whether  it  is  river  sand  but  the  particle  size  may  be  a  bit  smaller  anyway  I  will  be  adding  those  only  in  those  pockets  wherein  the  substrate  is  not  underlain  with  soil.  Hope  I  am  going  in  the  right  track...
 About  lighting...will  80  watts  from  T8  be  sufficient  for  18  inches  high  tank...I  was  thinking  of  adding  tenellus...and  adding  to  the  woes  my  driftwood  might  stain  the  water  so  i  was  going  towards  the  higher  side...Any  way  may  be  I  will  restrict  to  100  watts
 
 Thanks  Thuds  for  your  opinion...
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 29, 2014 9:24 am Post subject: Re: Help with Hardscape (New Member) Reply with quote

 Yes,  I  mean  the  garden  soil  layer  must  not  be  more  than  1.5  inches  (1  inch  is  advised),  the  capping  above  this  also  must  be  below  1.5  inches.
 100W  lighting  will  be  fine..  Mine  is  doing  well  with  72w  of  pll,  5hrs  is  the  photo  period  and  I  too  have  E.tennelus  and  lots  of  ferns..  My  lighting  consists  of  2X36W  Pll  and  2X21W  of  T5.  If  I  switch  on  the  whole  thing,  algae  starts  to  cover  the  ferns  and  the  glass..
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 29, 2014 6:05 pm Post subject: Re: Help with Hardscape (New Member) Reply with quote

 Subhra,  
 
 Nice  Start,  E-Tenellus  is  a  good  option.  the  only  challenge  with  E-Tenellus  they  wide  spread  veryquickly  and  you  cant  restrict  it  to  a  specific  area.
 Just  be  aware  that,  Corydoras  get  stuck  in  Tenellus  and  not  advisable  if  you  have  any  plan  to  keepy  Corydoras.  You  can  see  Etenellus  in  my  central  part  of  
 My  Tank  Pic  
 
 You  can  also  try  many  variety  of  Anubias  with  smaller  leaves  (Ex.  Anubias  barteri  Caladiifolia,  Anubias  barteri  marble)
 
 All  the  best.  Looking  forward  to  see  your  tank
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 29, 2014 8:21 pm Post subject: Re: Help with Hardscape and Plant Selection (New Member) Reply with quote

 Thanks  Srinidhi  for  the  clarifications  of  my  doubts...Even  I  see  that  your  photoperiod  is  on  the  lower  side....thanks  for  sharing  that  too...I  will  love  to  see  your  tank  pic...
 Thanks  Deepak...I  must  say  you  have  a  lovely  tank...I  will  be  trying  anubias,  ferns,  crypts,  vals,  and  swords...all  low  light  root  feeders...
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 29, 2014 10:45 pm Post subject: Re: Help with Hardscape (New Member) Reply with quote

 Hi
 i  think  everybody  will  have  different  opinions  just  see  what  you  see  best.
 
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2014 10:40 pm Post subject: Re: Help with Hardscape (New Member) Reply with quote

 Yeah  Rahul...just  that  I  am  not  so  experienced  in  planted  tank...
 
 Also  I  would  like  to  ask  a  thing  may  be  a  bit  off-topic...See  the  place  where  I  stay  has  very  hard  water...hardness  around  250  tds...Considering  the  fact  I  will  be  using  peat  filtration  and  driftwoods...I  also  plan  to  use  IAL  and  got  tetra  black  water  conditioner....Will  these  be  good  enough  (or  is  it   even  required)  if  I  am  planning  to  have  a  tank  mostly  with  ferns,  crypts,  anubias,  swords,  vals??
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 11:38 pm Post subject: Re: Help with Hardscape (New Member) Reply with quote

 Hello  everyone,
 Some  new  development  has  taken  place,  For  lighting,  I  will  be  using  65  W  and  35  W  CFL  lights  for  the  fixture.  Also  got  some  rocks  from  the  river  bed  and  arranged  my  aquarium.  Please  comment  on  these  pictures  and  rock  and  driftwood  arrangements.  The  first  one  is  with  natural  light  from  the  window  and  the  next  one  is  with  the  CFL  light  arrangement.  (sorry  for  the  bad  quality)
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 11:41 pm Post subject: Re: Help with Hardscape (New Member) Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 14, 2014 9:23 am Post subject: Re: Help with Hardscape (New Member) Reply with quote

 Looks  good..  only  thing  is  the  rocks  must  slope  from  the  drifts  to  the  substrate,  so  stack  some  more  rocks  at  the  base  of  the  drift  arrangement.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 14, 2014 11:10 am Post subject: Re: Help with Hardscape (New Member) Reply with quote

 Thanks  Srinidhi...I  will  be  adding  some  more  pebbles...But  those  will  be  tied  with  plants  (ferns  and  anubii)  and  mainly  at  the  base  of  the  drifts...Are  you  suggesting  to  change  the  direction  at  which  the  pebbles  point??
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 14, 2014 11:31 am Post subject: Re: Help with Hardscape (New Member) Reply with quote

 No..  the  direction  of  the  pebbles  will  not  matter,  your  plan  of  using  pebbles  tied  with  ferns  and  anubias  at  the  base  of  the  drift  is  the  best  option..
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