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Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2015 9:57 am Post subject: Re: Best filtration for a big planted tank - 36x36x18 inches
Thanks Andrew. Can you suggest me a good source to buy one? Also, please clarify me about the level of performance, maintenance, durability & and other features of both models. Which one is more Reliable and has a better life to do the job?!
Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2015 1:42 pm Post subject: Re: Best filtration for a big planted tank - 36x36x18 inches
performance wise both are good only and yes eheim has brand value only difference i see is the inlet and outlet pipe quality is cheap plastic in sunsun but in eheim they use good quality acrylic tubes but that doesn't make any big difference. i have both eheim and sunsun filters where both does good job. even sunsun filter runs quiet when voltage drops but eheim doesn't and maintenance is upto the person i usually clean my filter once in every 45 days.
but if you face any issue in filter like if your impeller or shaft or tray broken ehiem gonna cost you a bomb do check in ebay for eheim parts price. but i even used boyu 1400L/h internal filter impeller in eheim which works good so im not worried if any of eheim parts break
And life of canister is up to the person how they use it and you can't judge this in any electronic product, don't pack too much in filter always follow manufacture weight and quantity of media to use inside filter and clean it regularly not only media your impeller too it will work for years
Below is the link for sunsun better buy from umino they are cheap do call them before ordering and tell them to send in bus so you will get next day itself and it comes without media so you should buy media separate. All together with media will come max 5500-6k, better get coarse filter pad with it which you can reuse for years. and whatever fine filter pad comes with sunsun take it out let me explain you better
in most of the filter water goes down and it will come up, so while coming up the filter does filtration for better filtration follow the below points
last tray - keep ceramic rings which will act like mechanical filtration
3rd tray - keep 2-3 piece coarse foam and top use the fine foam comes with filter, mostly fine foam can be used only once or twice so you need to replace 2-3 months once or whenever you clean it.
2nd tray - keep biological filter media it's up to your choice to use the media you can use seachem matrix, eheim substrate pro or other media i have given some link below please note all do the same job nothing like seachem or ehiem or ada does superior job only thing you need good porous in your media for bacteria colony to form thats it. and most of them think bacteria forms only in filter no it forms everywhere in your tank
1st tray - again some media with activated carbon or seachem purigen and top cover with fine filter foam. activated carbon is good thing to use in your filter all time which will absorb any impurities in your water or you can use seachem purigen, but activated carbon life will be max for 70-90 days only after that you need to replace it. just use a palm size more than enough. below is video also for your reference.
Joined: Aug 09, 2014 Posts: 145 Location: Mumbai Dombivali east
Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2015 8:41 pm Post subject: Re: Best filtration for a big planted tank - 36x36x18 inches
BTW ceramic rings does not act as a mechanical filter Period!
And nitrifying and denitrifying bacteria does not form every where in the aquarium! Please get the facts right.
Height is no matter for an aquarium! It dont even matter what sorta aquarium you have planted / marine etc etc. The best method to filtration are many. Mainly classifying into Mechanical and biological. But here i assume you want to know what brand of filter or filter media is going to best suit your needs.
You need good flow in your aquarium so that the waste is being circulated and carried to the intake of any sorta filtration system you gonna put. There are many options such as adding a powerhead, wavemaker etc. to increase the flow in your aquarium. As for using a wavemaker in a planted tank. Please google for more information.
The best thing for biological filtration comparing the surface area, volume, performance, cost is Marinepure. Google for more details.
One 2x2" cube of this media has more surface area then 1300 plastic bioballs. This particular high surface media has the ability to non clog due to its structure.
You can place it in variety of filters such as HOB, canisters, sumps, internals, even placed in an aquarium towards continuous flow, It can nitrify. For denitrification you have to place it in a passive way.
Here we are and had been, penny wise pound foolish!
Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2015 4:46 pm Post subject: Re: Best filtration for a big planted tank - 36x36x18 inches
What is your budget. Its volume above 350 litres. You can go for filtration capacity of 1200 Little per hour with good one otherwise 1500 or 2000 Litter per hour is o.k. If you are considering the cost, then you can go for SUNSUN or Dolphin C 1000 or 1600. If you are going for good brand, then you can buy eheim classic 600/eheim professional 3 600 volume or fluval 406. As per my knowledge 2 feet depth is o.k. to reach the light upto down. Then you can go for Tube light t5. Otherwise you have to use Metal halyde bulb for aquarium. Cost filtration system of local brand like sunsun, dolphin etc. will cost you approx 4 to 6 K. Best brand eheim will cost you around 12 K for classic 600 or Professional will cost you approx 22 to 24 K. Fluval 406 approx Rs. 14 K. Eheim will use power of 20 Watt. while local brand will use power of 35 or 55 Watt. Eheim or Fluval has warranty of 3 years. Local brand will not get the warranty.
Joined: Aug 19, 2005 Posts: 4895 Location: Mathura, UP
Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2015 1:02 pm Post subject: Re: Best filtration for a big planted tank - 36x36x18 inches
Light gets diffused as it penetrates water, you will need good quality reflectors to enable light to reach that depth.
Get a good quality canister fillter, push the intake deep into tank just above the surface(1.1-5"), make sure it is not surrounded by rocks or plants, keep the outlet just on surface, this will ensure circulation of water.
Eheim makes one of the best filter, mine is now running into its 10th year of non stop operation, cleans my 50 g tank beautifully.
Joined: Aug 09, 2014 Posts: 145 Location: Mumbai Dombivali east
Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2015 2:05 am Post subject: Re: Best filtration for a big planted tank - 36x36x18 inches
It's not the gallons per hour, the more gallons you pump the more efficient it becomes. The important part is the contact time of water to the media for good beneficial bacterias to consume the necessary parts of nitrogen cycle. Ehiem has done alot of research on it. Dig for some papers if you get. It's not what filter you use its more about the water movement in your aquarium to eliminate the dead spots. Stagnant areas do alot of harm in a long run. Consider putting a small wavemaker.
Sump would be a good option, would save alot of money considering a good canister. Try marinepure by Cermedia, it has good results for biological filtration. For mechanical you can go with a filter sock, then marinepure or whatever feasible for you and then the return pump chamber.
Study ehiem recommendation and choose pump accordingly.
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