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PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2016 6:35 pm Post subject: Water Chemistry in Mumbai Reply with quote

 Hi,  What  is  the  water  chemistry  of  Municipality  supplied  water  in  Mumbai?  Wanted  to  understand  what  range  of  temp,  pH  value  and  GH  will  be  maintained  in  a  150-180  gallon  tank  filled  with  BMC  water,  plants,  driftwood,  rocks  and  a  gravel  substrate.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2016 7:35 pm Post subject: Re: Water Chemistry in Mumbai Reply with quote

 Hi,  welcome  to  IAH.  I  am  guessing  you  want  to  have  a  planted  tank  ?
 
 Mumbai  municipal  water  is  pretty  good  for  this  parameter  wise.  Temp  ranges  throughout  the  year  in  your  tank  will  vary  from  around  24-30  degrees  normally.  A  coupleof  degrees  lower  if  you  use  cooling  fans.
 
 Since  you  are  new  dont  get  too  caught  up  in  too  many  parameters  as  it  will  just  confuse  you.  Start  out  with  basic  and  hardy  plants  and  fishes  from  a  good  source  and  you  wont  have  any  issues,  BMC  water  is  good  for  fish  keeping.
 
 pH  is  generally  7.1-7.3  and  GH  around  2-3.  TDS  is  50
 
 Do  note  of  late  during  end  summer  and  beginning  of  monsoons  the  pH  can  go  up  a  bit  in  some  areas  to  7.6-7.8  possibly  because  BMC  adds  chloramines  to  the  water  during  this  time.
 
 Use  a  good  water  conditioner  like  Seachem  Prime  or  Safe  in  slightly  higher  (25-50%)  doses  during  these  times  and  store  the  water  overnight  before  changing  the  next  day  or  cut  the  tap  water  50-50  with  filtered  water  during  these  periods  to  reduce  problems.
 
 Try  and  keep  it  as  simple  as  possible  and  best  of  luck
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 Thanks  a  lot  for  that  Mortis.  That's  very  useful  information.  Really  appreciate  that  you've  taken  time  out  to  write  so  much  more  than  what  was  solicited  to  help  me  get  a  better  idea  of  things.  I  don't  mean  to  be  exploitative  of  this  generosity,  but  I  have  a  question..
 
 I  figure  that  pH  levels  need  to  be  maintained  in  a  very  narrow  range  of  less  than  0.5?  What  kind  of  a  water  parameter  fluctuation  tolerance  ranges  do  I  need  to  maintain  for  the  hardy  fish  and  hardy  plants?   I  had  the  impression  that  a  range  of  2  (eg.  6-8  pH)  would  do  just  fine  for  hardy  fish  and  hardy  plants.
 
 P.S.:  I  am  trying  to  design  the  tank  myself.  I  want  to  create  the  optimum  tank  that  will  require  low  maintenance,  low  frequency  water  changes  and  have  diverse  life  forms.
 
 Also,  who  do  you  recommend  as  a  good  source  to  buy  fish  from  in  Mumbai?
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 23, 2016 11:35 am Post subject: Re: Water Chemistry in Mumbai Reply with quote

                                                   
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Thanks  a  lot  for  that  Mortis.  That's  very  useful  information.  Really  appreciate  that  you've  taken  time  out  to  write  so  much  more  than  what  was  solicited  to  help  me  get  a  better  idea  of  things.  I  don't  mean  to  be  exploitative  of  this  generosity,  but  I  have  a  question..
 
 I  figure  that  pH  levels  need  to  be  maintained  in  a  very  narrow  range  of  less  than  0.5?  What  kind  of  a  water  parameter  fluctuation  tolerance  ranges  do  I  need  to  maintain  for  the  hardy  fish  and  hardy  plants?   I  had  the  impression  that  a  range  of  2  (eg.  6-8  pH)  would  do  just  fine  for  hardy  fish  and  hardy  plants.
 
 P.S.:  I  am  trying  to  design  the  tank  myself.  I  want  to  create  the  optimum  tank  that  will  require  low  maintenance,  low  frequency  water  changes  and  have  diverse  life  forms.
 
 Also,  who  do  you  recommend  as  a  good  source  to  buy  fish  from  in  Mumbai?                

 
 If  you  specify  the  tank  size,  type  of  filter  and  the  substrate  you  would  like  to  use,  you  will  get  better  responses.  The  common  fishes  you  will  find  at  the  LFS  will  survive  in  your  water.  The  key  is  filtration,  if  you  have  a  good  filter  then  you  can  keep  most  of  the  fish  alive  for  a  long  time.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 23, 2016 1:48 pm Post subject: Re: Water Chemistry in Mumbai Reply with quote

 Hi  Preetam,  specifications  of  the  tank  are
 
 1)  150-180  gallon  tropical  fish  tank  (6  ft  wide)
 2)  The  best  filter  available  (considering  canister  filter  as  of  now  as  it  needs  lesser  maintenance  compared  to  a  wet/dry  filter  -  from  the  little  I've  read)
 3)  Fine  gravel  substrate  with  dense  plant  clusters,  driftwood,  rocks  and  space  to  swim
 4)  Will  also  use  a  UV  sterilizer  and  any  other  equipment  required  to  meet  my  criteria  of  low  maintenance,  low  frequency  water  changes  (25%  once  a  month)  and  healthy  fish
 5)  diverse  lifeforms
 6)  Would  like  to  keep  the  system  silent
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 23, 2016 3:01 pm Post subject: Re: Water Chemistry in Mumbai Reply with quote

 A  canister  filter  with  an  inbuilt  UV  would  be  best.  For  such  a  big  tank,  use  two  canisters.  Use  soil  in  plastic  containers  for  plant  clusters.  When  using  fine  Gravel  don,t  make  it  too  deep.  1.5  inches  max  depth  should  do.  Bank  up  the  substrate  near  the  planted  containers  to  hide  it,  or  use  rocks  and  drift  wood  for  this  purpose.  Use  Purgin  in  the  canister  filters,  I  am  using  it  and  do  only  monthly  water  changes  even  on  my  20  gallon  tanks.
 
 Initially  get  some  schooling  fish.  80-100  of  the  same  type  -  Neons/Cardinals/  other  tetras.  They  will  look  awesome  in  the  huge  Tank.  A  large  school  of  puntius  denisonii  will  also  look  really  good.
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 Thanks  for  the  detailed  info  Preetam.  Made  a  note  of  all  that.  I  had  diverse  and  interactive  fish  in  mind.  I  understand  that  larger  fish  would  mean  a  dirtier  tank...will  have  to  work  out  the  best  fit.
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 Unless  you  have  something  in  the  tank  that  will  alter  the  pH  such  as  large  amount  of  driftwood,  a  specialized  planted  tank  substrate  or  CO2  injection  for  the  plants,  or  rocks  that  affect  parameters,  the  pH  will  not  vary  much  and  that  too  within  tolerable  limits.  Also  since  Mumbai  water  has  low  buffereing  capacity  and  is  fairly  neutral  it  wont  cause  much  of  a  problem  unless  you  do  very  large  water  changes
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 Thanks  Mortis.  Noted.  That  would  mean  even  a  0.5  pH  fluctuation  can  be  damaging  to  the  fish  and  plants-  water  parameters  for  a  particular  fish  can  be  anywhere  within  a  recommended  range,  but  will  have  to  be  maintained  fairly  constant  through  the  life  of  the  fish  or  gradually  changed?  I  most  probably  will  have  all  the  above  mentioned  things.  Best  for  me  to  aquascape  and  then  cycle  and  test  the  water  and  then  decide  which  fish  to  keep.
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 Chill.  Other  than  cichlids  95%of  the  fish  available  will  do  just  fine  in  our  aquariums  with  a  normal  maintenance  schedule.  Dont  overthink  it  or  you  will  not  enjoy  the  hobby  and  constantly  worry  about  parameters
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