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PostPosted: Sun Oct 02, 2016 6:08 pm Post subject: regarding agriculture grade fertilizer use in aquarium Reply with quote

 so  hello  guys  iam  from  pondicherry  
 got  a  40  gallon  tank  and  want  to  start  diy  ei  dosing  
 a  few  details  about  my  tank  can  be  found  here  
 
 http://aquapetz.com/viewtopic.php?t=4452
 
 i  purchased  the  horticulture  grade  stuff  and  want  to  use  it  
 
 
 the  stuff  i  got  are
   potasssium  sulphate  -  spic  triumph  brand  0:0:50
 potassium  nitrate  -  coromandel  brand  13:0:45
 mono  potassium  phosphate  -  coromandel  brand  0:52:34
 magnesium  sulphate  -  coromandel  brand  
 rexolin  cxk  micro  nutrients
 rexolin  13  %  chelated  iron  
   

 
 
 i  want  to  know  how  to  use  it  ,  planning  to  make  a  stock  solution  to  be  used  with  autodoser  so  need  some  guidance  on  how  to  make  the  solution  and  what  concentrations  to  use  
 please  help  me  
 thank  you     Bow
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 04, 2016 12:22 pm Post subject: Re: regarding agriculture grade fertilizer use in aquarium Reply with quote

 Hi  Ashok  kumar.
 The  only  difference  between  a  lab  grade  and  agricultural  grade  fertilizer  is  the  amount  of  impurities  in  it.
 lab  grades  are  much  more  pure  than  the  agricultural  grade,  But  for  our  application  I  feel  its  not  much  of  a  issue.
 I  too  dose  with  agricultural  grade  fertilizer  and  the  plants  are  doing  fine.
 Only  concern  is  with  the  rexolin  cxk  micro  nutrients,  The  micro  fertilizer  can  be  tricky  as  a  slight  increase  /  decrease  in  any  one  element  can  trigger  a  deficiency  or  toxicity  in  plants  and  has  the  potential  to  harm  the  inhabitant  animals.  I  would  suggest  you  to  go  with  CSM-B  for  micro  nutrient.
 all  other  fertilizer  can  be  used  as  per  recommended  recipes  Like  EI,  PMDD  or  PPS  Pro..
 No  matter  which  recipe  you  follow  you  may  have  to  modify  the  recipe  according  to  your  specific  tank.  because  your  tank  is  unique  and  nobody  can  give  a  standard  recipe  which  will  work  on  all  tanks.
 The  link  below  is  a  calculator  which  can  help  to  calculate  the  fertilizer  dosing.
 http://rotalabutterfly.com/
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 04, 2016 9:13 pm Post subject: Re: regarding agriculture grade fertilizer use in aquarium Reply with quote

                                                   
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Hi  Ashok  kumar.
 The  only  difference  between  a  lab  grade  and  agricultural  grade  fertilizer  is  the  amount  of  impurities  in  it.
 lab  grades  are  much  more  pure  than  the  agricultural  grade,  But  for  our  application  I  feel  its  not  much  of  a  issue.
 I  too  dose  with  agricultural  grade  fertilizer  and  the  plants  are  doing  fine.
 Only  concern  is  with  the  rexolin  cxk  micro  nutrients,  The  micro  fertilizer  can  be  tricky  as  a  slight  increase  /  decrease  in  any  one  element  can  trigger  a  deficiency  or  toxicity  in  plants  and  has  the  potential  to  harm  the  inhabitant  animals.  I  would  suggest  you  to  go  with  CSM-B  for  micro  nutrient.
 all  other  fertilizer  can  be  used  as  per  recommended  recipes  Like  EI,  PMDD  or  PPS  Pro..
 No  matter  which  recipe  you  follow  you  may  have  to  modify  the  recipe  according  to  your  specific  tank.  because  your  tank  is  unique  and  nobody  can  give  a  standard  recipe  which  will  work  on  all  tanks.
 The  link  below  is  a  calculator  which  can  help  to  calculate  the  fertilizer  dosing.
 http://rotalabutterfly.com/                

 
 thanks  for  the  advice  bro   Thumb Up  
 if  i  use  rexolin  in  very  low  quantity  will  it  be  a  problem?
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 05, 2016 10:31 am Post subject: Re: regarding agriculture grade fertilizer use in aquarium Reply with quote

                                                   
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if  i  use  rexolin  in  very  low  quantity  will  it  be  a  problem?                

 
 We  need  to  know  the  composition  of  the  mix  it  has.  its  normally  printed  on  the  label.  In  percentages.
 What  we  need  to  look  for  is  the  composition  of  Iron  and  zinc.
 Zinc  is  toxic  to  fishes  and  invertebrates..  so  need  to  see  if  its  too  high  in  rexolin.
 Iron  composition  is  what  determines  how  much  needs  to  be  dosed..
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 05, 2016 11:02 am Post subject: Re: regarding agriculture grade fertilizer use in aquarium Reply with quote

 Sorry,  I  meant  Copper  and  not  Zinc..
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 05, 2016 2:02 pm Post subject: Re: regarding agriculture grade fertilizer use in aquarium Reply with quote

                                                   
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Sorry,  I  meant  Copper  and  not  Zinc..                

 
 http://www.pragro.com/PRAGRO_files/RexolineCXK.htm
 
 this  link  has  the  details  about  the  rexolin  nutrient  
 
 i  also  messaged  the  owner  of  the  website  www.rotalabutterfly.com  to  add  this  micro  in  his  calculator
 he  told  that  he  will  add  it  to  the  calculator  
 
 one  more  doubt  i  have  is  people  were  telling  to  add  hcl  to  preserve  the  micronutrient  from  mould  growth  ,  they  were  ttellin  alternatively  it  can  be  refrigerated  but  thats  not  possible  since  im  goin  to  use  with  autodoser  
 
 so   i  bought  som  1/10N  HCL  ,  but  dontknow  how  much  to  add  to  the  solution
 if  u  can  guide  me  will  be  really  helpful  !  Thumb Up
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one  more  doubt  i  have  is  people  were  telling  to  add  hcl  to  preserve  the  micronutrient  from  mould  growth  ,  they  were  ttellin  alternatively  it  can  be  refrigerated  but  Thats  not  possible  since  im  going  to  use  with  autodoser                

 I  feel  that's  not  necessary,  Keep  the  mixture  in  a  opaque  container.  Or  keep  the  container  in  a  dark  place.
 From  the  link,  I  feel  the  Rexolin  Micro  has  low  iron  content  and  the  copper  is  a  bit  on  higher  side.
 CSM  has  the  following..
 1.5%  Magnesium  (MG),  
 1.5%  Magnesium  (cheleted),  
 0.10%  Copper  (Cu),  
 7.0%  Iron  (Fe  -  cheleted),
 2.0%  Maganese  (Mn  -  Cheleted),  
 0.06%  Molybedenum  (MO),  and  
 0.40%  Zinc  (Zn  -  cheleted).
 You  can  see  that  the  copper  content  is  pretty  low..  Try  to  find  an  alternative  to  this.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 05, 2016 8:17 pm Post subject: Re: regarding agriculture grade fertilizer use in aquarium Reply with quote

 i  found  out  that  the  rexolin  cxk  is  almost  similar  to  tenso  cocktail  made  by  yara  industries  and  the  copper  level  is  almost  same
 rotala  butterfly  has  given  a  calculator  for  tenso  cocktail  and  the  dose  matches  almost  with  the  rexolin  one
 
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rotala  butterfly  has  given  a  calculator  for  tenso  cocktail  and  the  dose  matches  almost  with  the  rexolin  one  
                 
I  will  check  and  revert  back  on  this..
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