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PostPosted: Mon Jun 05, 2017 2:13 pm Post subject: Recommendation on water testing kit? Reply with quote

 Friends,
 
 I  am  looking  for  water  testing  kit,  couldn’t  find  many  options  in  Indian  online  re-sellers.  Found  plenty  of  them  in  aliexpress  with  reasonable  price.
 I  am  looking  for  recommendation  on  essential  water  testing  kit.
 
 how  is  this  one,  does  it  cover  all  the  necessary  testing  options  for  the  key  water  parameters?
   
 https://www.aliexpress.com/item/JBL-Proscan-Test-Water-Analysis-With-Evaluation-Via-App-Water-Test-Set-aquarium-water-plant-fish/32658614615.html?
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 05, 2017 2:33 pm Post subject: Re: Recommendation on water testing kit? Reply with quote

 Check  Vasa  scientific  in  malleswaram  or  avenue  road.  They  used  to  stock  a  water  test  kit.  Not  sure  if  they  still  have  them,  You  can  call  them  up  and  find  out.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 05, 2017 2:35 pm Post subject: Re: Recommendation on water testing kit? Reply with quote

 Thanks  Preetam,  let  me  check  with  them.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 05, 2017 3:26 pm Post subject: Re: Recommendation on water testing kit? Reply with quote

 Another  question,  what  are  the  key  parameters  I  should  target  to  check  to  keep  my  aquarium  healthy?  I  use  RO  water  with  TDS  70  for  weekly  30%  water  change.
 
 I  am  struggling  to  grow  monte  carlo  carpet.  I  have  pressurized  CO2  and  T5HO  24w  10000K  +  14w  6500K  for  2x1.5x1.5  feet  tank.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 05, 2017 4:12 pm Post subject: Re: Recommendation on water testing kit? Reply with quote

                                                   
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Another  question,  what  are  the  key  parameters  I  should  target  to  check  to  keep  my  aquarium  healthy?  I  use  RO  water  with  TDS  70  for  weekly  30%  water  change.
 
 I  am  struggling  to  grow  monte  carlo  carpet.  I  have  pressurized  CO2  and  T5HO  24w  10000K  +  14w  6500K  for  2x1.5x1.5  feet  tank.                

 
 You  need  a  lot  more  light,  at  least  7000  lumens.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 05, 2017 4:52 pm Post subject: Re: Recommendation on water testing kit? Reply with quote

 Okay  I  thought  so,  actually  I  had  a  DIY  Led  setup  with  Cree  LEDs.  It  has  broken,  I  am  waiting  for  my  new  light  Finnex  planted+  24/7  SE.  Meanwhile  I  am  using  my  old  T5HO,  I  replaced  one  24w  10K  tube  with  14w  6.5K  since  light  was  bluish.  Someone  told  me  monte  carlo  is  not  very  high  light  demanding,  let  me  put  the  24w  10K  tube  back.  
 
 Also,  any  words  on  the  key  water  parameters  I  should  target  to  check  to  keep  my  aquarium  healthy?  I  use  RO  water  with  TDS  70  for  weekly  30%  water  change.  Currently  I  have  no  testing  kit  at  all  other  than  TDS.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 05, 2017 10:18 pm Post subject: Re: Recommendation on water testing kit? Reply with quote

 HI,
 
 Don't  burn  your  money  on  test  kit  it's  totally  waste,  it's  not  gonna  show  real  time  results  for  sure  you  can  check  lot  of  forums  for  this,  just  get  a  tds  and  ph  meter  more  than  enough  and  get  calibrate  powder  for  ph  once  all  set  use  this  both  more  than  enough  ph  meter  also  need  only  in  initial  setup.
 
 if  you  are  using  RO  without  minerals  then  your  tds  should  be  less  than  15  looks  like  you  mixing  with  tap  water,  and  monte  carlo  is  easy  growing  plant  give  some  time  whenever  you  make  some  changes  like  1-2  week  to  see  the  difference  your  lighting  looks  good,  looks  like  co2  issue  and  fert.
 
 Do  a  ph  profile  test  or  get  a  drop  checker  can  you  provide  some  more  details  of  your  tank  like  how  old  it  is  and  filter  type  and  fert  details.  belive  me  test  kit  is  total  waste  dont  waste  your  money  on  that.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 06, 2017 8:41 am Post subject: Re: Recommendation on water testing kit? Reply with quote

 Hello  Vivian,  
 
 I  have  rescaped  my  aquarium,  reusing  substrate  and  few  plants,  monte  carlo  is  new  from   pots  not  reused  one.  So  it's  same  old  substrate,  just  moved  here  and  there.  Its  gonna  be  3  weeks  on  this  Monday.  
 No  fertilizer  yet,   will  start  fertilizer  after  next  water  change.  
 I  had  trouble  with  monte  carlo  earlier,  this  time  its  melting  which  is  expected.  Just  trying  to  be  safe.  
 
 Waiting  for  new  light,  which  will  be  upgraded  to  Finnex  planted+  24x7  SE  by  weekend.   (getting  it  with  the  help  of  my  friend  from  US)  
 
 Here  is  my  tank  specs:
 
 Tank  size  :  L24”  x  W18”  x  H18”
 CO2  :  Pressurized  with  solenoid  valve  (ON  -  2  hours  before  switching  on  light  and  OFF  -  1  hour  before  turning  light  off)
 Filter  :  Eheim  2213
 Substrate  :  Base  layer  of  1~2”  CaribSea  Eco-Complete  and  top  layer  1.5”  ADA  Amazonia.  
 Lighting  :  6  hours  continuous.  T5HO  24watt  10000K  x  2
 Fertilizer  :  Seachem  iron  and  potassium.  2  ml  of  iron  and  potassium  alternate  day.  (will  start  after  3  weeks)
 Water  change  :30%  once  a  week.  
 Filters  :  Eheim  2213  and  another  basic  hang  on  filter  to  create  wave.
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 Hi  Manish,
 
 Its  just  3  weeks  only  and  the  transition  part  is  going  on  do  look  for  the  stem  health,  because  60%  of  leaves  will  melt  most  of  the  time  when  you  take  the  plant  submersed  but  your  stem  shouldn't  melt  and  your  lighting  period  is  high  for  a  new  tank.  don't  worry  about  soil  in  my  old  setup  where  i  had  monte  carlo  i  used  a  9litre  bag  and  3litre  soil  and  mixed  with  small  stones  that  too  in  a  3feet  tank  Chuckle  and  all  my  plants  where  healthy  never  had  any  issues.
 
 Monte  carlo  might  take  sometime  to  adjust  in  new  environment  so  give  some  time  for  it.
 
 if  you  use  Ada  soil  its  best  to  do  50-70%  water  changes  twice  a  week  at  initial  stages  and  and  look  for  better  circulation  in  tank,  i  follow  5x  filtration  and  10x  flow  but  gentle  and  steady  flow  so  that  my  fishes  and  plants  will  be  happy.  And  make  note  co2  distribution  plays  a  important  role  for  foreground  plants  make  sure  you  have  good  distribution.
 
 And  monte  carlo  love  nitrogen  so  go  for  EI  dosing  or  proper  macro  and  micro  and  to  get  salts  sure  someone  from  Bangalore  will  guide  you.
 
 Below  is  my  new  setup  done  on  may  7th.
 
 
 
 In  the  above  setup  i  installed  chihiros  doctor  for  1st  time  in  my  tank  which  i  got  as  a  gift,  only  thing  i  noticed  is  no  diatom  or  hair  algae  which  i  used  to  get  at  initial  stage  and  i  also  got  into  some  trouble  with  invasion  of  aquatic  moth  this  is  1st  time  in  my  life  faced  this  issue.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 the  above  little  buggers  ate  most  of  my  plants  in  that  limnophila  aromatica  and  HC  cuba  lost  around  70%  of  there  leaves  and  lost  Ludwigia  senegalensis  plant  totally  i  removed  around  43  worms  manually,  you  can  see  hc  and  limnophila  aromatica  affected  leaves  in  above  pic  but  now  all  plants  are  recovering   Smile  see  below
 
 
 
 this  is  36  x  18  x  22  inch  size  tank  with  4*39w  t5ho  light  where  for  1st  week  i  switched  on  2  lights  with  4  hours  photo  period  and  3  times  50%  water  change  and  for  2nd  week  same  and  3rd  week  3  lights  with  5  hour  photo  period  and  EI  dosing  and  this  is  4th  week  running  with  4  lights  and  5  hour  photo  period  all  plants  where  doing  good  and  should've  got  50-60%  hc  cuba  coverage  because  of  little  buggers  hc  is  picking  up  late  maybe  within  a  month  i  should've  70%  coverage.  and  i  have  already  trimmed  some  stem  plants.  and  do  note  most  of  hc  cuba  melted  and  started  recovering  in  2nd  week  and  in-between  worm  issue  also.
 And  mainly  you  need  is  patience  for  seeing  change  in  planted  tank  in  initial  setup  till  your  plants  settle.  in  this  tank  i  never  checked  anything  only  tds  i  used  to  check  because  we  get  both  soft  and  hard  water  in  same  tap.
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 Thank  you  Vivian  for  your  inputs.  Never  experienced  aquatic  moth  issue,  glad  to  know  that  you  nailed  the  right  cause  and  your  plants  are  recovering  now.
 
 In  my  aquarium,  I  always  notice  slime  like  film  on  top  of  water,  it  breaks  if  I  disturb  water  and  slime  collects  in  the  finger  if  I  move  finger  around.  I  am  unable  to  figure  out  the  cause,  I  use  my  old  hang  on  filter  as  surface  agitator  to  get  rid  of  it  but  I  believe  CO2  escapes  fast  if  there  is  lot  of  agitation  on  water  surface.
 
 Do  you  know  what  could  be  the  cause  of  film  on  the  water  surface?  I  don’t  feed  fish  too  much  that  extra  protein  or  fish  food  decay  can  cause  it
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Thank  you  Vivian  for  your  inputs.  Never  experienced  aquatic  moth  issue,  glad  to  know  that  you  nailed  the  right  cause  and  your  plants  are  recovering  now.
 
 In  my  aquarium,  I  always  notice  slime  like  film  on  top  of  water,  it  breaks  if  I  disturb  water  and  slime  collects  in  the  finger  if  I  move  finger  around.  I  am  unable  to  figure  out  the  cause,  I  use  my  old  hang  on  filter  as  surface  agitator  to  get  rid  of  it  but  I  believe  CO2  escapes  fast  if  there  is  lot  of  agitation  on  water  surface.
 
 Do  you  know  what  could  be  the  cause  of  film  on  the  water  surface?  I  don’t  feed  fish  too  much  that  extra  protein  or  fish  food  decay  can  cause  it                

 
 Its  a  bacterial  film,  surface  agitation  will  get  rid  of  it.  Put  an  air  stone  in  the  tank  and  turn  it  on  for  15  -20  mins  daily  after  the  lights/CO2  are  off.
 
 This  is  a  problem  in  my  tanks  too,  I  have  just  learnt  to  live  with  it.  the  air  stone  caused  too  much  splash  on  the  light  unit  and  started  causing  other  issues....
 
 You  can  also  use  a  surface  skimmer,  but  that  disturbs  the  aesthetics  of  the  tank.
 
 You  can  also  spray  diluted  h2o2  to  get  rid  of  it.  It  will  come  back  once  you  stop.
 
 IMO  its  not  worth  the  effort....  ignore  it.
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 Thanks  Preetam,  I  use  my  old  hang  on  filter  to  agitate  surface  to  get  rid  of  it  but  water  splashed  from  it  broke  my  DIY  led  light.  I  have  T5HO  and  it’s  a  covered  unit,  so  no  issues.  I  think  will  continue  to  use  my  old  hang  on  filter  as  surface  agitator.
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 Calcium  deposits  on  the  light  cover/glass  will  cause  problems  after  a  few  months.
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Thank  you  Vivian  for  your  inputs.  Never  experienced  aquatic  moth  issue,  glad  to  know  that  you  nailed  the  right  cause  and  your  plants  are  recovering  now.
 
 In  my  aquarium,  I  always  notice  slime  like  film  on  top  of  water,  it  breaks  if  I  disturb  water  and  slime  collects  in  the  finger  if  I  move  finger  around.  I  am  unable  to  figure  out  the  cause,  I  use  my  old  hang  on  filter  as  surface  agitator  to  get  rid  of  it  but  I  believe  CO2  escapes  fast  if  there  is  lot  of  agitation  on  water  surface.
 
 Do  you  know  what  could  be  the  cause  of  film  on  the  water  surface?  I  don’t  feed  fish  too  much  that  extra  protein  or  fish  food  decay  can  cause  it                

 
 Its  organic  build  up  and  protein  bio-film  but  wont  affect  anything  in  aquarium,  like  preetam  said  good  surface  agitation  will  remove  this  and  yes  keep  a  air  stone  i  usually  keep  air  stone  in  new  setups  for  2-3  months  which  will  run  for  10  hrs,  and  surface  agitation  also  is  needed  for  gas  exchange  you  wont  loose  too  much  co2,  do  proper  water  changes  and  have  good  filtration,  using  seachem  purigen  will  eliminate  this  mostly  you  can  buy  one  it  also  polish  the  water  you  will  see  big  difference  in  water  clarity  and  it  can  be  regenerate  every  time  so  value  for  money.  And  try  to  have  surface  agitation  like  below.  And  some  links  about  bio-film  hope  it  might  give  some  more  good  info
 
 http://aquariumalgae.blogspot.in/
 
 http://www.aquahobby.com/articles/e_freshwater_algae.php
 
 
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 09, 2017 12:09 pm Post subject: Re: Recommendation on water testing kit? Reply with quote

 Thanks  Vivian,  I  must  say  that  your  aquarium  looks  just  awesome   Thumb Up  
 
 Can  you  please  share  the  name  of  the  red  plant  near  rock  and  green/yellow  tip  stem  plant  at  the  center  in  the  rear  side  of  the  tank?
 Also,  do  you  have  two  filters  ?  Is  there  any  advantage  of  Lily  water  outlet  as  compared  to  spray  bar?
 
 Sorry  for  deviating  from  the  original  subject,  but  couldn’t  resist  myself  …!   Smile
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