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Possible causes for sudden death of fish (Goldfish)

 
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 15, 2017 11:14 pm Post subject: Possible causes for sudden death of fish (Goldfish) Reply with quote

 Aquarium  Details:
 Length  -  51  inch
 Width  -  18  inch
 Height  -  20  inch
 Filteration  -  Auqaclear  30,  Aquaclear  50  (with  Aquaclear  +  Seachem  Matrix  bio  media),  2  Sponge  filters  (XY-380  &  XY-280)
 
 Aquarium  setup  since  2  months
 
 Water  changes:  -  First  2  weeks  -  Twice  a  week  (30%-40%)  water  changes
  Thereafter:  30-40%  waterchange  once  a  week
  Last  Sunday:  50%  water  change
 
 I  add  Seachem  Prime  as  per  dosage  on  bottle  during  water  change.
 
 Live  stock:  3  Goldfish  -  single  tailed  (1  inch  size)
 Feeding  schedule:  Thera+A  (2  mm),  Saki  Hikari  (I  feed  either  of  these  2-3  pellets  per  fish  twice  a  day)
 
 My  most  active  goldfish  died  today  evening.  It  had  been  in  aquarium  since  2  months  &  was  always  active.  It  showed  signs  of  lethargy  after  I  fed  NLS  pellets  yesterday  evening.  It  became  very  less  active  &  started  spending  time  at  one  section  of  tank  (with  little  movement).  It's  position  was  normal  i.e.  no  tilt  or  upside  down  &  had  no  clamped  fins.
 Today  morning,  I  didn't  feed  that  fish.  It  looked  better  when  I  left  for  office.  (It  did  swim  slowly  in  aquarium,  but  not  as  active  as  earlier).  It  was  dead  when  I  returned  from  office  in  evening.  All  this  happened  in  just  24  hrs.
 
 The  other  2  fishes  are  very  active.  I  bought  them  couple  of  weeks  back  from  store.  In  fact,  one  had  clamped  fins  when  I  bought  from  store.  She  is  also  doing  fine  now  &  has  recovered  completely.
 
 What  could  be  possible  causes  of  such  death?  Would  appreciate  some  pointers  as  I  don't  want  same  fate  for  my  other  2  gold  fishes.
 
 The  only  thing  I  did  different  this  week  was  I  siphoned  fish  poop  out  every  day  or  every  other  day  (no  water  change  only  siphoning).  Could  this  have  effected  biological  filtration?
 
 The  only  thing  I  can  think  of  right  now  is  reduce  feeding  further  to  only  once  a  day.
 
 I  don't  have  water  test  kits.  Hence,  have  never  tested  water.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 16, 2017 11:56 am Post subject: Re: Possible causes for sudden death of fish (Goldfish) Reply with quote

 Hi,
 
 What  kind  of  gravel  you  have  and  don't  siphon  fish  poop  often  do  it  on  water  change,  you  mentioned  fish  showed  signs  of  lethargy  so  looks  like  your  fish  had  swim  bladder  disease  is  one  common  problem  a  goldfish  will  face.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 16, 2017 12:39 pm Post subject: Re: Possible causes for sudden death of fish (Goldfish) Reply with quote

 Thanks  Andrew  for  quick  response.  My  tank  is  bare  bottom.
 
 Regarding  Swim  bladder  disease  -  By  lethargy  I  mean  my  fish  was  swimming  normally  but  very  slowly  i.e  no  tilt  or  upside  down  or  no  clamped  fins  (but  not  as  fast).  I  am  not  sure  whether  this  can  happen  with  swim  bladder  disease.  Appreciate  suggestion  on  this.
   
 Also,  I  saw  this  change  in  behavior  just  an  hour  after  feeding.  It  was  super  active  prior  to  feeding.  Could  swim  bladder  problem  show  this  fast  i.e  in  an  hour  &  result  in  death  within  24  hrs?
 
 1  more  thing  -  When  I  bought  the  fish,  it  had  red  gills  (signs  of  ammonia  poisoning)  &  the  reddening  didn't  go  away  even  after  2  months.  However,  it  was  super  active  &  feeding  normally  throughout  2  months.  I  am  also  thinking  this  as  possible  cause.  But  not  sure  then  how  it  survived  &  remained  active  for  2  months..
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 17, 2017 11:24 am Post subject: Re: Possible causes for sudden death of fish (Goldfish) Reply with quote

 This  is  the  prob  with  swim  bladder  because  it's  difficult  to  find  out  and  if  you  read  lot  about  goldfish  they  will  say  not  to  feed  in  surface  because  sometimes  it  takes  air  with  food  and  this  happens  rare  mostly,  because  of  your  fish  behavior  only  i  thought  it  might  be  swim  bladder  issue  or  even  it  swallowed  something  from  surface  of  water  because  this  fish  munch  whatever  falls  on  surface,  And  regarding  red  gills  i  am  not  sure  what  causes  it,  because  there  are  plenty  of  reasons  for  that  below  is  a  link  with  some  good  info,  but  whatever  it's  sad  you  lost  your  fish  and  try  to  add  some  gravel  so  the  fishes  will  be  little  more  happy  and  will  also  get  extra  beneficial  bacteria  also.  so  looks  like  you  love  gold  fish,  i  had  4  it  was  with  me  for  around  7  years.
 https://puregoldfish.com/40-disease-symptoms/
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 17, 2017 1:30 pm Post subject: Re: Possible causes for sudden death of fish (Goldfish) Reply with quote

 Thanks  Andrew  for  inputs.
 
 What  I  thought  from  the  behavior  was  constipation.  My  other  fish  also  stayed  at  corner  some  day  back.  I  stopped  feeding  for  a  day  &  later  gave  some  peas,  it  bounced  back.
 
 What  surprised  me  was  fast  death  (within  24  hrs.)  I  didn't  get  chance  to  think  of  other  possible  causes.  There  was  no  scratching  on  surface  or  gasping  prior  to  that.
 
 I  am  really  shocked  with  this  fish's  death  as  this  looked  liked  the  most  active  &  healthy  fish  of  all  in  terms  of  behavior.  Infact,  it  was  so  active  that  I  thought  even  in  case  of  problems,  this  should  be  the  last  one  to  suffer.
 
 Good  to  know  that  you  have  also  kept  goldfish  for  7  long  years.  I  absolutely  love  goldfish..  For  some  reason,  I  like  single  tailed  more  than  fancies.
 
 Thanks
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 20, 2017 3:19 am Post subject: Re: Possible causes for sudden death of fish (Goldfish) Reply with quote

 Most  likely  the  suspect  is  some  pathogen  from  the  new  fish  you  bought  from  the  store  
 
 You  have  ticked  all  the  other  boxes  right..
 
 Gold  fish  from  the  usual  stores  are  of  pretty  poor  quality...mortalities  are  quite  high...  Seek  a  good  source  for  the  fish..
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