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PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2017 1:10 pm Post subject: Re: hellfire - first step into aquascaping, a log. Reply with quote

 DAY  20
 
 livestock:
 siamese  algae  eaters  :  4
 khulhi  loaches  :  2
 electric  blue  ram  :  4
 neaon  tetras  :  16
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2017 2:31 pm Post subject: Re: hellfire - first step into aquascaping, a log. Reply with quote

 Nice  setup.....  Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 11, 2017 7:50 pm Post subject: Re: hellfire - first step into aquascaping, a log. Reply with quote

 very  nice  setup...
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 11:38 am Post subject: Re: hellfire - first step into aquascaping, a log. Reply with quote

 thank  you  @Rahul_Discus  @Amazonian2010   Smile
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2017 11:01 am Post subject: Re: hellfire - first step into aquascaping, a log. Reply with quote

 1  month   Cheer  .  the  plants  are  doing  well,  dwarf  hair  grass  still  to  carpet  completely.  slow  growth  in  the  shadows.algae  under  control.  fishes  are  peaceful.  lost  a  few  bacopas,  nightmare  to  clean  the  dwarf  hairgrass.photo  period  increased  to  6  hours.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 26, 2017 6:21 pm Post subject: Re: hellfire - first step into aquascaping, a log. Reply with quote

 saw  new  signs  of  hair  algae  and  some  spot  algae  on  the  glass.  I  have  been  using  ferts  regularly  and  felt  needed  some  more  stem  plants  so  added  a  few  in  the  background.  hoping  they  will  compete  with  the  algae  and  bring  it  under  control.  planning  on  trimming  down  the  hair  grass  this  weekend.also  experimenting  growing  moss  tree  on  two  chopsticks.its  easier  to  relocate  and  trim  them  this  way.
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 algae  seems  to  have  overtaken  the  tank.  have  hair  algae  growing  rampant  on  dwarf  hairgrass  and  black  beard  algae  on  plant  leaf  edges,  mainly  on  anubis.  i  have  been  doing  regular  water  changes  (once  weekly  50%),  regular  fettilizing  and  co2  is  on  throughout  the  day.  can  somebody  help  with  this
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 21, 2017 6:42 pm Post subject: Re: hellfire - first step into aquascaping, a log. Reply with quote

 algae  on  anubis.  is  cutting  out  the  leaf  the  only  option.  anubis  leaves  are  precious  since  its  so  slow  growing.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 21, 2017 9:27 pm Post subject: Re: hellfire - first step into aquascaping, a log. Reply with quote

 pasted  from  internet
 
 you  should  get  a  couple  of  algae  eaters  they  wont  harm  plants  and  stay  small,  here  is  a  article  that  i  copied  so  here  -  step  1  Change  water,  from  one  fifth  to  two  thirds  of  it  per  day,  depending  on  how  turbid  it  is,  and  whether  odour  is  included.  Algae  blooms  are  a  symptom  of  too  much  plant  fertilizer  in  water.  If  you  love  aquatic  life,  then  you  will  learn  to  love  your  bucket.  step  2  Also  try  feeding  your  fish  less.  You  may  be  overfeeding  them,  and  when  excess  food  or  fish  poop  sits  in  the  tank,  it  decomposes  into  a  rich  algae  food.  Generally  speaking,  only  feed  your  fish  as  much  as  they  can  eat  in  about  three  minutes.  step  3  If  your  tank  does  not  contain  plants,  or  only  contains  low-light  plants  such  as  java  moss,  try  lessening  the  time  the  tank  stays  lit.  step  4  If  your  tank  does  not  contain  plants,  or  if  it  is  sparsely  planted,  try  adding  a  plant  or  two.  These  will  'eat'  up  extra  nutrients  and  help  starve  algae.  step  5  If  the  water  stays  green,  wrap  your  tank  in  black  cloth  or  paper  and  turn  off  the  light  for  a  few  days.  Fish  do  not  need  light.  They  naturally  get  darkness.  Plants  can  survive  several  days  without  light.  Many  species  of  plankton  cannot.  This  is  only  a  temporary  step  in  comparison  to  step  one
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 22, 2017 1:26 am Post subject: Re: hellfire - first step into aquascaping, a log. Reply with quote

 Which  ferts  are  you  using?
 What  levels  of  NPK  ppm/week  are  you  maintaining?
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 22, 2017 10:25 am Post subject: Re: hellfire - first step into aquascaping, a log. Reply with quote

 looks  like  your  drop  checker  colour  is  still  in  blue..  so,  not  enough  co2.
 whats  your  fertilizer  dosing  schedule  and  what  type..
 Lights...  Can  you  give  exact  details,  I  dont  believe  that  they  are  40w..  40w  are  4  foot  length  normally..
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 22, 2017 1:41 pm Post subject: Re: hellfire - first step into aquascaping, a log. Reply with quote

 Alright,  this  is  how  i'll  go  about  this  situation;
 
 1)  Have  you  cleaned  the  filter  since  setup?,  the  organic  build  up  can  trigger  algae.  Also  the  flow  is  reduced  substantially.
 2)  I  see  you  are  using  a  ceramic  disc  for  diffusing  CO2,  I  bet  you  are  better  off  using  an  inline  CO2  reactor  or  atomizer  for  your  tank  size.  IMO  increasing  the  bps  for  single  ceramic  disc  diffuser  is  mere  wastage  of  CO2.  May  be  you  can  add  one  more  disc  with  a  splitter.  You  have  to  ensure  a  proper  green  /  lime  yellow  indicator.
 3)  Cut  and  remove  the  dead  and  infected  leaves  or  plants  altogether.  You  are  only  saving  the  plants  /  tank  this  way.  IME  with  proper  maintenance  and  dosing  regime  they'll  bounce  back  soon.  
 4)  Stick  to  fertilizer  dosing  recommended  by  the  manufacturer  of  your  ferts.  Your  plants  are  growing  /  carpeting  with  existing  lights,  so  a  good  sign  that  you  have  sufficient  of  one  of  the  trio  -  Lights  ,  CO2  &  Ferts.  Again  worth  mentioning,  get  the  CO2  right.
 5)  Spot  treat  algae  with  H2O2  and  physically  remove  as  much  as  possible  with  a  tooth  brush.  The  algae  will  turn  white  /  brown  after  u  treat  with  H2O2.  Repeat  this  step  a  couple  of  days  whenever  you  see  algae  turning  green.  If  you  still  have  SAE  which  are  not  feeding  on  fish  food,  they'll  do  good  job  at  keeping  algae  at  check.  IME  if  other  things  mentioned  above  are  taken  care  of  then  this  treatment  wont  be  required  for  more  than  a  week.
 
 So  basically  clean  the  filter,  ensure  Green  CO2  indicator,  remove  dying  leaves,  spot  treat  with  H2O2  for  a  while  and  manually  remove  algae.
 Hope  this  will  help..
 
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 22, 2017 1:46 pm Post subject: Re: hellfire - first step into aquascaping, a log. Reply with quote

 thank  you  for  your  kind  reply.
 
 as  of  now  i  am  using  cal  aqualabs  chrome  (micronutrients),  shine(pottasium)  and  green  (nitrogen,pottasium  and  phosporous)  1  pump  of  each   alternate  days.
 
 CO2  is  running  at  3  bubbles/sec  throughout  the  day  
 
 water  changes  every  Sunday.  about  50%
 
 plants  seem  healthy  with  no  signs  of  deficiency  and  are  growing  at  a  rapid  rate.  have  trimmed  the  hairgrass  once  and  the  algae  problem  started  immediately  afterwards.the  only  way  ti  remove  the  agae  from  the  hair  grass  seems  to  be  to  trim  it  real  low,  but  am  afraid  that  might  again  cause  an  algae  boom.
 
 the  lights  are  40W  as  stated  on  the  tubes.  i  keep  them  on  for  12hrs  with  a  2  hr  break  in  between.
 
 pretty  sure  am  not  overfeeding  as  i  feed  once  daily  and  the  food  is  over  in  roughly  about  three  minutes,  never  more.
 
 any  economical  way  to  check  the  nutrient  levels  in  the  tank?  i  suspect  the  problem  lies  with  fertilizing/  too  much  organics  in  the  water  (  added  a  few  stem  plants  that  lost  a  lot  of  original  leaves)
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 @Da_vipin   Thumb Up  spot  on.  have  cleaned  the  filter  once  and  the  flow  seems  good.  but  now  i  have  an  action  plan  as  you  have  laid  out.will  try  it  out  and  update.
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 Add  some  small  plants  like  s.repens  towards  the  edge  of  the  wood.the  transition  from  forest  to  grassland  is  too  abrupt.  Small  plants  will  smoothen  it  out.
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