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PostPosted: Wed Mar 07, 2018 12:41 pm Post subject: 2G planted build; Goals and challenges Reply with quote

 Hi  all!
 
 Years  ago  I  had  scored  a  free  6"x6"x12"  tank  from  my  LFS  who  probably  used  it  to  keep(kill)  bettas.  Since  he  moved  on  to  a  combined  multi-tank  system,  I  asked  for  one  of  his  older  tanks.  I  once  tried  to  setup  a  planted  tank  in  it,  but  I  failed  since  a  week  from  setting  up  I  had  to  leave  for  a  month  long  excursion.  Returned  to  find  it  turned  into  hydrilla  stew.
 
 I  wish  to  restart  it.  This  time  I  wanna  plan  it  better  and  document  the  build  on  this  thread.  This  is  the  tank  in  its  current  state:
 
 
 Substrate:  Inert.  Open  to  suggestions
 
 Light:  5W  Phillips  6500k  LED.  8hr  photoperiod.
 
 Flora:  Anubias  nana,  Hydrocotyle  Tripartita,  Vallisneria  nana,  java  moss.  Open  to  more  suggestions,  I  wanted  to  try  my  hand  at  Rotala  nanjenshan,  but  I  dont  know  if  its  a  wise  choice  for  this  system.
 
 Fauna:  A  few  Shrimp.
 
 Equipment:  None.
 
 Dosing:  None  planned,  but  I  might  add  excel  and  EI  if  the  plants  begin  showing  signs.
 
 Challenges:
 

     
  •  Temperature:  Will  the  system  survive  the  49C  Nagpur  Summer.  Indoor  temperatures  hover  in  the  upper  30s.
     
  •  Plants:  I  plan  to  add  one  each  of  the  plants  I  listed,  What  else  can  be  added  to  the  system.
     
  •  Substrate:  Can  I  avoid  it  completely?  I  can  have  a  small  pot  in  the  center  with  some  dirt  and  good  substrate  in  the  center  to  grow  the  valisneria  and  hydrocotyle,  surrounded  with  moss  and  anubias  tied  to  a  rock?  Is  there  any  major  benefit  of  going  bare  bottom?
     
  •  Water  change:  I  wish  to  get  this  system  into  a  natural  balance  so  as  to  not  dose  anything  or  do  regular  water  changes.
     

 
 Goals
 

     
  •  Get  a  growing  ecosystem  with  healthy  flora  and  fauna  with  almost  no  external  additions
     

 What  do  you  say  about  all  this?  I  will  begin  with  the  setup  later  this  week.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 07, 2018 6:47 pm Post subject: Re: 2G planted build; Goals and challenges Reply with quote

 Stem  Plants  would  not  work  as  they  do  not  look  good  in  Emmersed  form.  For  6  inches  tall  tank,  you  will  have  to  trim  very  frequently  and  it  will  get  boring.  if  the  plants  start  growing  emmersed,  they  wont  look  good.
 
 Use  Java  ferns  and  Bolbitis  they  will  look  really  good  if  they  grow  out  of  the  tank.  Any  inert  substrate  will  work  in  this  case.  Ferns  grow  very  will  with  Excel  or  Glut  suppliment.
 
 Moss  wont  grow  considering  high  temperatures.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 3:17 pm Post subject: Re: 2G planted build; Goals and challenges Reply with quote

                                                   
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Stem  Plants  would  not  work  as  they  do  not  look  good  in  Emmersed  form.  For  6  inches  tall  tank,  you  will  have  to  trim  very  frequently  and  it  will  get  boring.  if  the  plants  start  growing  emmersed,  they  wont  look  good.
 
 Use  Java  ferns  and  Bolbitis  they  will  look  really  good  if  they  grow  out  of  the  tank.  Any  inert  substrate  will  work  in  this  case.  Ferns  grow  very  will  with  Excel  or  Glut  suppliment.
 
 Moss  wont  grow  considering  high  temperatures.                

 
 This  tank  is  12inch  tall  not  6  inch.
 
 Bolbitis  is  an  interesting  choice,  completely  missed  it.  Do  you  think  anubias  and  hydrocotyle  will  survive  the  temperatures?
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 3:57 pm Post subject: Re: 2G planted build; Goals and challenges Reply with quote

 Anubias  will  survive.  I  am  not  sure  of  hydrocotyl
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 2:13 am Post subject: Re: 2G planted build; Goals and challenges Reply with quote

 For  your  indoor  temperature  anubias  and  java  ferns  shouldn't  be  problem.
 How  would  you  manage  a  pico  without  water  changes.  Wont  there  be  any  algae  and  mosquito  issues?
 I  have  read  people  maintaining  a  pico  without  any  filtration  by  doing  daily  water  changes.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 12:15 pm Post subject: Re: 2G planted build; Goals and challenges Reply with quote

                                                   
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For  your  indoor  temperature  anubias  and  java  ferns  shouldn't  be  problem.
 How  would  you  manage  a  pico  without  water  changes.  Wont  there  be  any  algae  and  mosquito  issues?
 I  have  read  people  maintaining  a  pico  without  any  filtration  by  doing  daily  water  changes.                

 
 Mosquitoes  are  something  that  most  hobbyists  internationally  dont  have  to  struggle  with.  And  now  that  I  think  of  it,  by  no  water  change  I  mean  very  minimal  water  change,  10-20%  a  week  along  with  evaporation  top  up.  If  algae  does  creep  up  and  the  situation  calls  for  a  water  change  I'll  perform  the  necessary,  but  over  time  I  feel  regular  water  changes  wont  be  necessary.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 1:31 pm Post subject: Re: 2G planted build; Goals and challenges Reply with quote

 This  is  going  to  be  one  very  different  aquascape  IMO  since  the  footprint  is  for  a  pico  setup  but  the  height  is  of  a  nano.  
 Good  luck  and  looking  forward  to  detailed  updates.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 8:05 pm Post subject: Re: 2G planted build; Goals and challenges Reply with quote

 If  you  are  worried  about  algae  issues,  start  off  with  stemmed  plants  and  phase  them  out  slowly  until  you  get  a  balance  so  that  algae  doesnt  get  a  foothold.  You  have  not  mentioned  what  type  of  lighting?
 What  i  would  be  doing  in  this  situation  is  go  for  substrate,  carpeting  plants  preferably  one  of  the  hair  grass  varieties  like  eleocharis  sp.,  and  just  a  few  small  rocks  strategically  aquascaped  so  you  have  more  of  open  space  that  even  a  small  tank  looks  more  spacious  esp  when  you  are  using  just  shrimp.  Just  my  2  cents  worth  of  info  here.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2018 12:14 pm Post subject: Re: 2G planted build; Goals and challenges Reply with quote

 Any  update  on  this  setup  @ashwin1224
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2018 2:03 pm Post subject: Re: 2G planted build; Goals and challenges Reply with quote

                                                   
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Any  update  on  this  setup  @ashwin1224                

 
 Unfortunately  no,  I  didnt  get  time  to  setup  this  tank  at  all!
 
 My  other  tank  has  been  hogging  all  my  "aqua"  time.  Will  post  on  it  as  well.
 
 In  other  news,  I  got  into  a  sweet  deal  with  my  LFS,  in  which  I  will  provide  him  with  automation  solutions  for  his  shop,  in  return  he'll  be  giving  me  free  plants  and  fish!  Drinking  
 
 Hopefully,  I'll  get  a  few  freebies  to  throw  into  this  tank  out  of  it.
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