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PostPosted: Thu May 13, 2004 11:18 am Post subject:  Reply with quote

 Dear  Nag,
 
 Thanks  for  the  info.    From  your  mail  I  learnt  that  what  we  are  getting  from  the  LFS  are  the  Tubifex  worms  but  not  the  blood  worms.  
 
 Can  you  suggest  me  any  safest  method  of  using  these  worms.    I  misunderstood  these  tubifex  worms  as  Blood  Worms.
 
 We  get  only  these  tubifex  worms  here.    I  have  seen  no  shop  selling  the  blood  worms  in  Hyderabad  (  To  the  extent  I  know  from  past  12-  14  years)
 
 Please  throw  some  light  on  how  to  use  these  tubifex  worms  safely  for  the  fishes  (  Specially  Discus).
 
 Can  you  also  suggest  me  some  vegetarian  recipe  for  Discus  and  Angels.
 
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 Hi  Sharma:
 
 Firstly  read  the  posting  by  Madan  regarding  safest  method  to  clean  
 Tubifex  worms.
 
 You  can  find  the  postings  at:
 Forums  -->  Discuss  Discus  -->  Bloodworms  v/s  Tubifex  worms.
 
 Normally  it  is  recommended  that  you  don't  feed  Tubifex  to  to  Discus.
 Because,  as  Tubifex  are  long,  there  is  a  major  chance  that  an  intestinal  blockage  may  happen.
 
 But  if  you  want  to  do  so,  after  cleaning  them;
 whenever  you  want  to  feed,  you  need  to  chop  them  into  smaller  lengths
 and  then  feed.
 
 As  far  as  Veg.  recipe,  look  at:
 Forums  -->  Discuss  Discus  -->  100%  Vegetarian  Recipe.
 
 Enjoy  Keeping  Discus.
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 Sharma,
 
 from  your  conversation,  I  assume  that  you  are  using  tubifex  worms  for  your  discus.  I  think  the  idea  of  tubefex  worms  being  fed  to  discus  is  too  bad.  Tubifex  worms  are  carriers  of  so  many  infections  and  does  not  get  sterile  whatever  you  do.  Secondly  they  contain  a  high  amount  of  heavy  metal  content  that  results  in  "Hole  in  the  head"  disease  in  discus.  Please  think  twice  before  to  feed  them  with  tubifex  worms  next.
 
 
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 Hi  venkat  and  Nag,
 
 Thanks  for  the  info...  
 
 Will  try  to  make  my  dicus  habituated  to  Tetrabits.  The  disadvantage  I  am  seeing  is  When  I  give  them  these  tetrabits  they  are  sinking  down  in  minutes  and  getting  mixed  with  Gravel.  
 
 Yesterday  I  took  some  parrot  food  (  I  remmber  its  name  from  wellon  or  so..  will  get  back  to  you  with  name  tomorrow)  which  are  alos  pelletes,  as  it  is  stated  that  it  is  higly  protenicious  at  par  with  Tetrabits.  I  am  afraid  how  do  I  make  my  discus  habituate  to  this  and  what  can  make  them  have  stomach  full  food  for  healthy  growth.
 
 Please  advise  
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 Sharma,
 
 the  easiest  way  to  get  discus  feed  tetra  bits  is  to  starve  them.  If  you  are  so  sympathetic  in  starving  discus,  I  suggest  you  start  making  your  own  Beef  Heart  Mix.  You  can  add  all  the  necessary  vitamin  suppliments  and  your  Tetra  bits  to  it  too.
 Give  an  occational  treat  to  the  discs  with  fresh  or  frozen  blood  worms  if  possible.
 
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beta  wrote:                
Beware!  With  every  wish  there  comes  a  curse  Sad  
 Mine  being  that  my  discus  never  give  me  peace  of  mind  lol                

 Thts  true.    With  discus  we're  sitting  on  a  ticking  time  bomb!
 
 When  it  comes  to  bloodworms  i  do  a  different  thing.
 -Firstly,  I'd  rinse  them  thoroughly  in  tap  water  for  around  a  dozen  times.
 -Secondly,  i  keep  them  in  a  strong  saline  solution.
 -Thirdly  i'd  put  them  in  almost  hot  water  of  around  45C.
 -Finally  i  treat  it  with  an  anti  parasite  like  BodyGuard-Antiparasite.
 And  i  repeat  this  continuously  everyday.
 In  this  treatment  many  would  die  but  i  can  be  convinced  about  the  live  ones  that  they're  free  from  parasites.
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 To  do  the  above,  I  think  Madhu  has  all  the  time  in  the  world...  :lol:    :lol:  
 
 I've  resorted  to  Hikari  Frozen  BW...Makes  life  simpler...  Very Happy


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nag  wrote:                
To  do  the  above,  I  think  Madhu  has  all  the  time  in  the  world...  :lol:    :lol:  
                 

 Thts  true  nag.    They  eat  up  most  of  my  weekends.    I  feed  live  worms  to  all  my  guys  from  tetras  to  my  australian  arowana.    But  i  swear  they  deserve  it.
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 Very Happy  after  so  much  discussion,nag  has  finally  mentioned  the  best  solution!!"HIKARI"....think  no  further!it  way  sound  expensive...but  as  your  discus  grow  larger  and  larger,the  cost  of  hikari  becomes  less  significant.Plus  peace  of  mind.Only  hitch  is  hikari  FBW  is  not  available  in  all  cities(I  get  it  with  difficulty.....dont  know  about  Hydbd)...and  has  to  be  kept  in  the  fridge.Family  resistance  and  all....
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madhu_ulysses  wrote:                
In  this  treatment  many  would  die  but  i  can  be  convinced  about  the  live  ones  that  they're  free  from  parasites.                

 
   Very Happy  the  fact  that  those  few  survived  means  that  all  the  procedure  was  not  able  to  reach  "inside"the  remaining  live  ones...so  its  still  a  gamble,but  lesser  risk  I  guess!
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 I  do  agree  with  your  view.    But  until  now  i  had  no  prob  in  ths  treatment.  Very Happy
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 Hi
 
   Friends
 
 I  hear  all  the  stories  about  Discus  not  eating  this  and  that.  But  from  my  experience  with  Discus  for  the  Past  6  Years.  they  eat  Flakes,  Tetra  Bits,
 Beef  Heart  and  Froz  Blood  worms  that  their  Daily  Diet  with  Four  Different
 Food  in  a  Day.
 
 I  never  experience  with  any  Parasite  or  any  other  Diseas,  but  with  Bloat
 for  a  single  Fish  or  so,  which  I  wont  mind,  eventually  that  bloated  one  will  die,  the  rest  of  the  Discus  will  grow  in  their  Full  size,  upon  normally  I  give  it  Off  to  anybody  Claims  that  they  can  Take  Care  and  Probably  Try  Breeding.
 
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 Sundar  Wrote:
 
                                                 
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...eventually  that  bloated  one  will  die...                

 If  proper  care  is  taken,  the  bloated  fish  will  not  die...if  the  case  being  *bloat  due  to  intestine  blockage/egg  binding*
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 Dear  Nag
 
 I  do  treating  the  Bloated  ones,  in  a  Hospital  Tank,  but  of  no  use,  because
 
 a)  Bloated  Fish  do  not  eat,  hence,  Medicines  Mixed  with  Food  is  not
         Going  to  Help.
 
 b)  Medicines  In  the  water  is  not  Going  to  enter  their  stomack  either,  then    
         How  do  they  observe  Medicine,  I  do  not  Know,  I  may  be  wrong.
 
       Throw  some  Facts  on  it  Nag  Please.
 
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 Hi,
 
     Some  of  my  discus  too  had  this  problem  early  on  in  my  hobby  and  lost  couple  of  them  too.But  with  experience  and  advice  from  the  Senior  hobbyists  like  Adipa  and  Beta,  it  has  been  a  good  experience  to  have  the  16  since  the  last  1  year.
 
     Ultimately  the  saying"CLEAN  WATER  KEEP  DISCUS  HEALTHY"  should  be  the  thumb  rule  for  all  Discus  lovers.
 
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