Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 12:39 am Post subject: Starting an 8 footer
Hello everybody and monster tank owners,
Have been toying with this idea for quite sometime now and also consider this an upgradation of my hobby. Would be moving to my new house shortly in couple of months and want to keep a 8ftr (space limitations or else would have gone for a 10 ftr). Considering the fact that a 8ftr is a largish tank and lots of space is available i am in a fix/confusion as what would be the species of fish that can be kept in them. Below are the few questions that i have where i would be needing some help/suggestions from all of you guys who have experience in keeping big tanks...
1- Dont want to keep Oscars (Already have 2 four ftrs dedicated for them)
2- Not interested in planted tanks (might not be able to spend the required time/equipment for them)
3- Wish to keep a colony of frontosas or Piranhas (what are the other options of shoaling large cichlids)
4- Planned for a mbuna alone setup (not many excotic varieties are available in LFS) or a lake malawi setup
I am basically looking at tank with a similar setup as this (http://www.malawicichlidhomepage.com/aquainfo/office_tank2.html). So guys please let me know all the thoughts/crazy ideas that you can come up with so i can start investing my time/money on it..
Note: If things work out i might even try my hand on a plywood tank like Madan Subramanian did rather than a all glass tank. Suggestions invited to go for plywood or glass tank also...
Joined: Jun 29, 2003 Posts: 1632 Location: Chennai, India
Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 9:42 am Post subject: Re: Starting an 8 footer
If you choose to build a plywood tank, please read madan's article & others on the www. You might have to experiment a lot, since a tried & test method suitable for materials available in India is not readily available.
If you want stability & reliability, I suggest you go for a glass tank.
Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 6:52 pm Post subject: Re: Starting an 8 footer
Why do you want to go for a 8 foot tank?
Have you thought about the filteration ?
Also access in the tank is going to be a big pain, there is no way you will be able to bend over the side of the tank and place something at the back of the tank, You will need access from both the sides,
Water changes, even a 20-30 % is going to mean large amounts of water which you would need to store over night.
Building the tank and getting the fishes are the easy part, There are lot of things to consider before you get into it.
I am assuming its going to be a 270 gallon tank. A manageable size for a tank is a 180 gallon.
Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 8:21 pm Post subject: Re: Starting an 8 footer
@ Hello Rahul,
Gotta compromise on something. Have always dreamt of keeping a large tank and have done some reading on the net on maintaining a large tank, if you look at the URL that i have posted, it is similar to what i want.
Filteration - One of my 4 ftr has a 2000L/H Atman Filter running and i assume that 2 filters of the same capacity would do the job (i can even add an additional filter of about 1000L/H for efficient filteration if necessary). Maybe i can add some some additional airpumps for better oxygenation of the water depending on the stocking density.
Access - This would be a one time setup which would be planned accordingly and not disturbed for maybe for about a year or so once put together, so the important thing required by me would be the access to filters and areas that accumulate more dirt. (Also i am 6ft Tall )
Water Changes - Since the proposed tank would contain large volume of water i am sure that the water changes can be done atleast once in a month or maybe month and a half or so.This would be coupled by strict/minimal feeding schedules to the fishes as i believe that fish poop contributes a lot to the tank maintainence.Overfed fish = lots of poop.
This tank would basically contain 179-US Gallons or 680 Litres of water ie 96L x 24W x 18H.
Please do let me know if my assumptions/calculations are correct.
@ Clowny Girl - Please dont hate me, i am sure you will have your 8ftr or a bigger one some day because it took me 3 years to convince my parents on this project
Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 6:23 am Post subject: Re: Starting an 8 footer
The tank size is perfect for cichlids, lot of surface area.
2 Filters like you said should do, may be add one powerhead for circulation.
Water changes depend on you bio-load and not the volume of water, more the bio-load for a given volume you need to do more water changes,I have 6 frontosa(5 inch),3 green terror (7 inch), 1 golden severum (7 inch) in a 180 gallon, I do 30-40% water change every week.
What thickness of glass do you need for this?
Reason i am asking is because you may be spending more on glass for a 180 gallon if you make it 8 foot, If you had a 6x2x2 180 gallon tank, this will need 12 mm glass.
Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 6:28 pm Post subject: Re: Starting an 8 footer
@ Rahul - I am not sure about the thickness of the glass, would probably need a 14mm glass
@ Beta - Was eagerly expecting you to reply to this post, nice suggestions, if at all i start a indian biotope where do i get all those fishes listed out there Beta, might end up visiting you in chennai to get some advice personally.....
Now since the topic of the tank size has been raised twice here do you guys suggest me to reduce the tank size to 6 feet or still stick to my 8ftr idea. I might just be in a hurry to get things done and get a large tank but sincerely what would be the best option for a largish tank if not a 8ftr
Surely will keep all you guys posted on my progress, as i mentioned this would take couple of months for me to set it up.
Joined: Dec 14, 2004 Posts: 542 Location: Bangalore and Palakkad
Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 6:54 pm Post subject: Re: Starting an 8 footer
I think you should stick on to the original plan and go ahead with the 8 Feet tank. The suggestion fishes for the tanks by Beta is good. I would have gone for any one of them if i had a chance to setup a tank of smilar size.
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