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Echinodorus tennelus rotting prevention

 
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 4:04 pm Post subject: Echinodorus tennelus rotting prevention Reply with quote

 Hi,
 
 I  just  started  my  planted  tank  2  days  back.  The  intention  here  is  to  go  for  a  Low  Tech  planted  tank  (DW  method).
 
 I  planted  echinodorus  tennelus  (short  grass  like  plant)  and  noticed  today  morning  that  quite  a  few  leaves  are  turning  yellow  to  brown,  hence  assuming  rotting.
 
 Wild  Guess:  I  think  I  stuck  the  roots  too  deep  into  the  substrate  and  hence  the  rotting.
 
 I  would  like  to  know  any  planting  tips  for  echinodorus  tennelus  that  one  can  follow  and  also  how  to  save  the  existing  plants  that  seem  to  be  slowly  rotting.
 
 Tank  information:  36InX18InX18In,  1In  (laterite+1-2  mm  gravel  mix)  2  In  (2-3  mm  gravel),  3X18W  CFL  (OSRAM  CoolWhite)
 
 FYI,  Other  plants  seem  to  be  fine  till  now.
 
 Shyam.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 4:47 pm Post subject: Re: Echinodorus tennelus rotting prevention Reply with quote

 Hi  Shyam,
 
 Plant  Echinodorus  Tennellus  with  the  base  of  the  rosettes  just  above  the  gravel.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 5:01 pm Post subject: Re: Echinodorus tennelus rotting prevention Reply with quote

 Shall  I  go  ahead  and  prune  the  rot  and  replant  it  as  stated?  
 
 I  stuck  them  too  deep  into  the  gravel  Sad  
 
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 6:29 pm Post subject: Re: Echinodorus tennelus rotting prevention Reply with quote

 Hi
 Just  take  the  plants  out,  replant  them  with  their  crown  just  above  gravel.
 All  rosette  plants  like  amazon  swordplants,  vallesernia  etc.  should  be  planted  in  this  way.
 Even  if  old  leaves  die,  young  shoots  will  appear.
 Don't  worry,  it  will  work  out  fine.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 10:04 am Post subject: Re: Echinodorus tennelus rotting prevention Reply with quote

 Also,
 Please  see  to  it  that  it  is  not  overshadowed  by  other  plants.  E.  tenellus  needs  light  to  spread  out  in  a  lawn  like  effect.
 i  had  mine  overshadowed  by  Amazon  swords  and  they  never  did  well..
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 12:35 pm Post subject: Re: Echinodorus tennelus rotting prevention Reply with quote

 Replant  them  ensuring  that  the  entire  rossette  is  out  of  gravel  and  only  the  roots  are  inside,  normally,  it  will  take  around  4-6  weeks  to  settle  down,  don't  worry  even  if  the  old  leaves  turn  bronw  and  decay,  ensure  that  adequate  lighting  is  there  as  this  plant  needs  a  lot  of  light  to  grown  well....
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 1:53 pm Post subject: Re: Echinodorus tennelus rotting prevention Reply with quote

 Have  replanted  as  per  suggestions  here.  
 
 Currently  there  are  no  plants  that  are  overshadowing  these,  and  in  my  aquacape  this  shouldent  happen  as  I  do  not  have  other  plants  nearby  that  should  have  this  effect.
 
 Guess  it  is  wait  and  watch  now  as  it  possibly  takes  time  to  settle  and  then  grow.
 
 I  did  have  some  difficulty  in  getting  the  plant  rosettes  out  and  only  the  roots  into  the  gravel,  it  used  to  just  pop  out,  but  some  gravel  sepration  and  then  filling  a  few  grains  on  the  roots  seem  to  have  made  them  stay  in  place,  even  after  the  filter  is  turned  on  (currents  from  the  filter  are  not  upsetting  them  or  uprooting  them  now).
 
 Thanks  for  the  tips,  if  they  show  life  and  spread  will  sure  post  a  picture  here  Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 11:24 pm Post subject: Re: Echinodorus tennelus rotting prevention Reply with quote

 hi  Somari,
                        curious  to  know  how  your  tennelus  is  doing...
   paranoid  because  i  planted  mine  two  days  ago.........  Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 11:35 am Post subject: Re: Echinodorus tennelus rotting prevention Reply with quote

 Hi  saadali,
 
 Well  I  had  a  60%  survival  rate,  and  they  are  now  growing  _slowly_
 
 I  also  had  some  lighting  issues  that  accelerated  the  decline  of  the  same,  otherwise  the  normal  melting  took  place  and  some  new  leaves  have  sprouted  in  their  place.  I  am  sure  that  they  willl  survive  now.
 
 Let  us  know  how  it  goes  with  yours.
 
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 8:03 am Post subject: Re: Echinodorus tennelus rotting prevention Reply with quote

 The  E.  Tenellus  needs  a  long  light  day  that  is  a  minimum  of  twelve  hours  of  daylight.
 It  will  not  thrive  if  mud  collects  around  its  roots.  
 This  dirt,  mulm  and  other  debris  should  be  siphoned  off  regularly  .  
 Other  than  this  the  plant  does  not  require  anything  special.  
   
 Like  all  Echinodorus  sp.  it  requires  a  good  source  of  iron.  
 Without  iron  the  leaves  become  thin  lacking  in  color  and  will  eventually  break  down  and  start  dying.
 A  regular  dosing  of  Iron  with  liquid  fetilizer  will  be  of  help.  
 But  a  nutrient  rich  substrate  is  essential  to  provide  you  with  a  long  term  solution  to  Iron  fertilization.
 The  tenellus  requires  the  normal  medium  soft  water  and  a  temperature  of  below  30  deg.  C.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 8:08 am Post subject: Re: Echinodorus tennelus rotting prevention Reply with quote

 Just  planted  mine.  Fingers  crossed.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 6:54 pm Post subject: Re: Echinodorus tennelus rotting prevention Reply with quote

 hi,
         planted  mine  5  days  back,  the  is  no  considrable  rotting  seen...
 i  have  72watts  at  present,  laterite  layer,  coarse  sand,  no  co2,  no  PMDD
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