Joined: Dec 15, 2006 Posts: 3668 Location: Calcutta
Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 7:41 pm Post subject: Re: Aquariums & Budgets
I belive in in budgets and i also feel that fiskkeeping should not become an obsession.Your family comes first.Be faithful to your wife and responsible to your parents and kids.Fish keeping is just a hobby.Never lie to your wife on that score.Its always better to lead a frugal ,truthful and simple life.SAMI
Yes..! Sami u r right.. .. I am 101% agree with you..
But what about the budget... if the budget is crossing your expectation, then there is nothing 2 do except 1 thing who can save u ....& that is LIE ... but remember "Jhoot Bole Kauwa Kate... Kale Kauwe Se Dario..
Joined: Feb 15, 2006 Posts: 2588 Location: Coimbatore
Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 12:56 pm Post subject: Re: Aquariums & Budgets
Why should your wife be left out? Get her involved.
When I started on my first tank after a break last year, my wife was at her mother's. Now we share responsibilities equally. She looks after the tanks, feeding the fish in my absence, helps clean. And what was one tank last year, is ..... hmmm I can't remember the exact number of tanks I have !!!!!!!!
Joined: Feb 14, 2007 Posts: 986 Location: Was Pune Now Bhopal :-)
Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 2:49 pm Post subject: Re: Aquariums & Budgets
Luckly I got no Wife yet...
But i do get ocassional Shoutings from my girlfriend!! For comments like
"Don't you think a Big Blue Diamond is better than partying tonite !!"
Honestly, I am setting up a new tank end of thismonth and from my past experience I am keeping a budget of 15K without Fauna this only includes Tank, Filter(External 2217), Gravel(With Special Plant Sub+Laterite+2-3mm Sand), Heater,lighting with timer and DIY Co2+basic setup plant to start.
I have kept it all overbudget as one goes along the way many small items add up. But I dont want to over shoot this budget for anything except my fish later on...
Should I start a thread for this project...? Comments and suggestions appriciated...
Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 3:36 pm Post subject: Re: Aquariums & Budgets
This doesnt confirm to the topic of this thread but
In my honest opinion,
You can do without the eheim if u are planning for a planted tank.
In a planted tank , a filter is merly needed to circulate the water and plants do the job of biological filtering which would have done by the the bacteria in the media of the external filter.
You can rather use that fund to set up presurrise Co2.I would treat that as a higher priority than an external filter.
Think about it.
@Nanu, you have a PM.
Joined: Nov 08, 2006 Posts: 159 Location: Cochin, Kerala
Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 10:23 pm Post subject: Re: Aquariums & Budgets
When it comes to aquahobby budget , I prefer more options (individual tanks, variety of fishes (better say, cichlids) and more experiments.
Though, presently i live in a rented home, i give the least importance to space. So, when given a choice with a budget for 30 K, definitely i wont go for a 6 Feet Show Tank. (Again 30K is a tight budget for an average 6 Feet Show Tank). But, instead i'll prefer to go for 6 number of individual 3 feet tank with that budget.
Total = 30K (And gain only 1 biotype simulation , with limitation of fish varieties. When you think in future for new fishes, or if you are tempted to keep a new species all of a sudden, then you should rework your budget).
Drawbacks: If you plan to sell your tank, you might not get a fair offer easily (as buyers for 6 feet tank are very less).
Advantages: Aaah, always 6 Feet tank have many advantages. Who want to miss this monster tank. No doubt that this is the dream tank of every hobbyist.
Choice 2: Budget of 30K
YES !!!!! Go with 6 Numbers of 3 Feet Tank
Average cost for a tight budget 3 Feet Tank is approximately
3 Feet / 1 Feet / 1 Feet (Tank + Stand + Hood + Light) = 2K
Gravel 20 Kg = 600 Rs
1500 Lt / Power Filter = 400 Rs
Fishes = 1K
Total = 4K (per 3 Feet Tank )
Cost for 6 Tanks (each 3 feet) = 24 K (@ a rate of 4K / Tank)
Premium Food Stock + Medication = 2K
Pocket Money for Wife (To get her conviced with 6 Tanks) = 4K
So, 30K will get you 6 Tanks (With plenty of biotype choices, and fish varieties) + 2 Bonus package worth 6K
Running cost / maintenance efforts are hectic. No doubt. Beware of your electricity cost.
Advantages: You may find some hobbyist to pick 2 or 4 of these tanks instantly , once you plan to sell them. And what more, plenty of fish varieties or biotype simulations.
Choice 3: Budget of 30K
Motto: Forget about Show Quality Tanks & be determined that you dont show these tanks / fishes to your friends.
7 Feet Rack (That can hold 6 Number of 3 Feet Tank) = 3K (Custom made)
6 Tanks (3 Feet each @ 750 Rs) = 4.5K
1500 LT P.Filter (6 Numbers) = 2K (UGF , still cut down the cost)
Gravels / Substrates = 1K (or should we go bare bottom...? hmm)
Plumbing work + pipe outlets = 0.5 K
Fishes = 4K
Total = 15K
Bonus Investments (in savings of 15K)
Present a surprise gift worth 15K to your wife , and promise her that for every $$$ u spend on aquahobby in future ahead , she will get something similar worth equal money.
I bet that in just two weeks time, she will ask you to go for 12 more tanks
Joined: Mar 11, 2006 Posts: 44 Location: Bangalore
Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 3:25 pm Post subject: Re: Aquariums & Budgets
These is basically for the people who are planning to construct house.
I decided to build cement platform instead of Iron /wood stand.Cement platform was cheaper when comapred to Iron / wood stand and you save money
What i decided is, Non Plant Aquarium to Planted Aquarium with 18k.
Aquarium 3 x2 x2.5
A.Purcahse Glass from your nearest, let's say 15mm glass.
B.As of today, 165per sqft of Auqarium Glass
1.2pc * 3feet *165 = Rs990 + cutting charges extra
2.2pc *2.5*165 =185
3.1 *3*165 =495
C.Ask for L square cut
F.Transportation = Rs200
Total Aquarium =5000
Externak Cansister Filter=6600
Gravel=500 [ Try get it locally, Don't try to purchase]
Fishs = 500 [ Let's beging with small stuff]
Total Approx ~= 18000
Don't purchase everything or else you will be under fire from your family.
Joined: Aug 19, 2005 Posts: 4895 Location: Mathura, UP
Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 4:28 pm Post subject: Re: Aquariums & Budgets
Why do you want to build a 3X2.5X2.5 aquarium with 15mm glass, an aquarium of this size should not cost more than 2,500/-. 8mm or even 6 mm is fine for this size.
There is no harm in going in for 15mm , but that can be put to better use.
I would just like to add that my 4 aquariums, 2 small cement ponds togather with racks etc. have not cost me that much.
If anybody deisres I can guide him to estimate of Rs. 3-4 thousand for a complete setup of 3X1.5X1.5. This is not a fiction, my angelfish tank is such a tank.
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