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PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 5:37 pm Post subject: Food for newly introduced marine fish Reply with quote

 Marine  Experts,
 
 Please  let  me  know  what  you  feed  your  newly  introduced  marine  fishes,  because  I  wanted  to  keep  some  buterfly  fishes  in  my  tank,  but  lot  of  people  warned  me  for  buterflies,  Is  there  is  any  ready  made  food  availabe  for  these  fishes,  is  they  eat  pellets  /  flakes.
 
 I  dont  wanna  feed  them  Hatched  Brine  Shrimp...Smile
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 7:30 pm Post subject: Re: Food for newly introduced marine fish Reply with quote

 Rocky
 
 It  depends  what  type  of  butterfly  you  would  like  to  keep.  You  may  persue  "Wimple",  "Threadfin/Vagabond"  or  "Long  Nose  Copper"  to  take  bits  of  shrimp  or  even  tubiflex.
 
 Even  for  "Pakistani",  some  time  it  works.
 
 For  other  species,  it  is  difficult  to  feed  with  dry  or  readymade  food,  just  try  live  food.  
 
 Just  out  of  track,  do  not  keep  "Moorish  Idol".  In  long  term  they  simply  will  not  survive.
 
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 10:52 pm Post subject: Re: Food for newly introduced marine fish Reply with quote

 Rana,
 
                                                 
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Even  for  "Pakistani",  some  time  it  works                

 the  sometimes  it  might  work  formula  is  responsible  for  killing  thousands  of  butterflies  Â Crying or Very sad  
 @Rocky,
 sadly  every  time  I  see  a  beginner  purchasing  a  butterfly  I  curse  the  seller  but  the  'could  work  for  me  factor'  is  so  strong  that  it  becomes  almost  irresistible  to  purchase  the  fish  and  later  end  up  scratching  your  head  as  to  what  will  it  feed  on.
 My  theory  is  straight  and  simple:  butterflies  are  specialist  feeders  and  should  not  be  touched  by  a  beginner  till  he  has  atleast  'some'  experience  in  marine  fish  keeping.  Apart  from  being  specialist  feeders  most  of  them  barring  a  few  like  the  wimple  (banner  fish)  are  also  very  sensitive  to  the  water  chemistry  and  in  no  case  recommended  for  beginners.  Â Thumb Down  who  have  a  lazy  set  of  bones............................
 
                                                 
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I  dont  wanna  feed  them  Hatched  Brine  Shrimp...                

 you  should  start  off  with  some  damsels  and  clowns  even  a  tang/surgeon  is  sturdier  compared  to  the  butterflies.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 17, 2007 2:24 pm Post subject: Re: Food for newly introduced marine fish Reply with quote

 @DJ,
 
 Since  you  tend  to  require  everything  in  bulk  quantity,  try  keeping  a  big  batch  of  butterflies  together.  None  will  refuse  to  eat.
 
 -  Shankar  @  Sampath's  machine.   Chuckle
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 17, 2007 4:34 pm Post subject: Re: Food for newly introduced marine fish Reply with quote

 Hey...  Shankar
 
 thats  funny..Smile
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 17, 2007 5:44 pm Post subject: Re: Food for newly introduced marine fish Reply with quote

 Yes  Rocky
 
 Butterflies  are  very  susceptible  to  wrong  water  chemistry.  They  will  not  tolerate  even  high  nitrate  level  let  alone  nitrite.  They  also  prefer  high  specific  gravity  around  1.023  at  80  degree  F  or  1.026  at  60  degree  F.  
 
 Butterfly  in  captivity  also  needs  good  aeration  and  water  movement.  Discourage  buying  large  fish  (>  2.5  inches),  simply  they  will  not  adapt.
 
 Wimple,  threadfins,  vagabond,  racoons  are  little  easier  to  keep.  However  should  not  be  introduced  in  new  tank.  Do  not  touch  the  melon,  meyers,  collare.  They  will  not  accept  any  food  in  captivity,  becuase  in  natural  havitat,  they  feed  on  live  coral.
 
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 17, 2007 6:15 pm Post subject: Re: Food for newly introduced marine fish Reply with quote

 What  about  wimple....Confused....  is  they  eat  pellets,  flakes  or  any  other  granulated  food...?
 
 I  am  interested  in  Wimple  Butterfly  only,  nothing  else.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 17, 2007 7:51 pm Post subject: Re: Food for newly introduced marine fish Reply with quote

 Rocky
 
 Yes  Wimple  or  Banner  fish  will  take  bits  of  shrimp  or  flakes/granules  prepared  for  marine  fishes.
 
 But  be  absolutely  sure  that  your  tanks  is  now  stabilized  properly.  Do  not  keep  any  aggresive  fishes  like  three  spot  or  humbugl  damsels  in  tank  while  introducing  new  fishes.
 
 Try  to  keep  a  shoal  of  atleast  6.
 
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 17, 2007 8:05 pm Post subject: Re: Food for newly introduced marine fish Reply with quote

 Rana
 
 So  which  fishes  you  would  like  to  prefer.
 
 My  planning  is  :
 
 Tomato  Clown  =  2
 Yellow  Tail  Blue  Damsel  =  2
 Wimple  =  2-4
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 Humbug  Damsel  =  1
 3  Spot  Domino  Damsel  =  1
 
 +  A  Lion
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 17, 2007 10:59 pm Post subject: Re: Food for newly introduced marine fish Reply with quote

 Rocky
 
 All  are  OK,  except  the  Lion,  Lion  may  think  the  small  damsels  as  morsel  and  snap  it  up.
 
 Introduce  Damsels  (particularly  Humbug  and  Three  spots)  after  the  Wimples  are  established.  Do  not  keep  damsel  just  one  each.  Instead,  in  a  4  feet  tank,  keep  at  least  three  each.  
 
 Keep  suitable  anemone  for  each  clown,  you  may  go  for  other  anemone  fishes  also.  Three  spot  damsel  also  sometime  stay  with  anemone.
 
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 12:35 am Post subject: Re: Food for newly introduced marine fish Reply with quote

                                                   
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Rana
 
 So  which  fishes  you  would  like  to  prefer.
 
 My  planning  is  :
 
 Tomato  Clown  =  2
 Yellow  Tail  Blue  Damsel  =  2
 Wimple  =  2-4
                 

 
 but  rocky  Tomato  Clown  r  very  aggressive  compared  to  other  clown  species  make  sure  they  r  pair(male  and  female)  if  not  only  the  dominant  will  survive  and  also  make  sure  you  provide  your  clown  with  anemone  to  reduce  the  aggression.  and  again  tamato  clown  r  aggressive  towards  other  species.   so  s  the  three  spot  damsel  very  territorial.so  please  be  aware  of  that  buddy  
 
   
 
                                                 
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 Rana
 
 
 Humbug  Damsel  =  1
 3  Spot  Domino  Damsel  =  1
 
 +  A  Lion
                 

 
 if  you  wanna  keep  humbug  damsel  forget  your  lion  fish  if  not  forget  your  humbug  ha..  ha..  very  simple  isn't..  if  not  you  can  have  lion  fish  and  trigger  i  guess  marine  experts  will  guide  you.   i  just  said  my  view  if  iam  wrong  please  correct  me.
 
 
                                                                                                                        with  regards
 
                                                                                                                            sampath
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 Hi  friends.  
 I'm  Nandakumar  fm  visakhapatnam,and  been  a  member  since  a  few  months,  but  "LURKING'   going  thru  various   threads.  First  of  all  pl  accept  my  sincere  appreciation  for  a  wonderful  attidtude  of  all  the  members,  ever  eager  to  help  a  fellow  hobbyiest  and  you  guys  are  quite  knowledgeble!
 
 After  about  30  yrs  of  FW,  i  took  the  envitable  jump  into  SW  an  year  back,  that  too  with  wc  Buterfly  fishes.Contrary  to  the  thought  that  BFs  are  not  the  beginer's  fish,:  i  was  quite  sucessful  with  them.  (  I  had  no  choice  either,  i  could  get  only  BFs  )  And  i  wanted  share  my  experience.
 
 Presently  I  hv  3  Banner  1  Pakistani  and  2  Indian  vagabond.
 
 I  feed  them  with  a  varied  types  of  chopped  frozen  foods  such  as  Cuttel  fish,prawns,clams,  chiken  meat/liver,and  even  mutton  sometimes,  twice  everyday.  I  find  they  like  cuttel  fish  meat  most.
   Of  all  three  varities  Banner  BF  are  the  hardiest  and  tolarates  a  bit  lazyness.  The  vagabonds  are  very  sensitive  and  i  had  more  casualities  with  them.
 I  feel  any  beginer  can  easily  keep  Banner  bf  easily  with  little  care.
 
 The  sucess  mantra  for  me  is  weekly  25%  water  change  and  feed  as  littel  as  many  times  as  u  can.      '  A  hungry  fish  is  a  healthy  fish"
 
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 12:16 pm Post subject: Re: Food for newly introduced marine fish Reply with quote

 Nandu,
 
 Thanks  for  the  information  &  a  warm  welcome  to  IAH...  Thumb Up   Thumb Up  
 
 Actually  I  want  to  feed  them  Marine  Flake,  Pellets  &  Granuels  food,  so  any  idea  about  this...???
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'  A  hungry  fish  is  a  healthy  fish"
 
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 I've  tried  this  with  myself,  but  have  ended  up  losing  weight  ever  since!   Chuckle   
 Pls  dont  do  that  to  wild  caught  fish,  since  they  all  come  'well  fed'.
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 Hey  Shankar,
 
 Where  are  you...?  I  mean  to  say  whom  machine  you  are  using,  I  hope  this  time  its  yours  only....  Chuckle   Chuckle  
 
 
                                                 
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Actually  I  want  to  feed  them  Marine  Flake,  Pellets  &  Granuels  food,  so  any  idea  about  this...???                

 
 Can  you  help  on  this..  Smile
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