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PostPosted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 8:02 pm Post subject: Re: Are you bumping up your Post Counts! Reply with quote

 We  will  not  stop  any  new  member  posting  sale  of  items  in  the  LFS  Announcements  forum,  even  if  they  are  brand  new  members.  IAH  is  only  helping  the  hobbyists  and  LFS  through  this  forum.
 
 Our  concern  is  people  posting  fish  etc.,  multiple  times  a  week  or  a  month  only  in  the  Buy  /  Sell  /  Exchange  forum  which  is  solely  reserved  for  hobbyists.  Almost  always  they  only  post  livestock  for  "sale",  never  for  exchange  or  never  do  they  want  to  buy  anything.
 
 I  cannot  believe  that  so  many  people  successfully  breed  and  are  able  to  raise  the  fry  to  have  3  inch  discus  growing  in  their  tanks  which  are  put  up  for  sale  multiple  times  every  week  or  month.
 
 They  are  definitely  only  trading  in  fish,  and  the  hobbyist  here  gets  shafted  as  a  middleman  becomes  involved,  mind  you  not  everyone  is  honest.
 
 Such  people  will  have  to  move  over  to  the  LFS  Announcements.
 
 This  will  take  sometime  to  streamline,  but  suggestions  are  welcome.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 8:37 pm Post subject: Re: Are you bumping up your Post Counts! Reply with quote

 hi  everyone  ,
 
 the  iah  forum  has  helped  me  a  lot  in  my  fish  keeping  hobby,  it  will  be   helpful  to   get  disciplined  to  make  it  better.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 10:03 pm Post subject: Re: Are you bumping up your Post Counts! Reply with quote

 Hi,
 
 Why  can't  make  a  rule  that  if  a  person  has  posted  in  a  LFS  Announcements  forum  or  Buy/sell/exchange  forum  he  can  post  another  post  only  after  certain  no.  of  days  or  post.  
 
 I  think  this  is  possible  by  making  some  changes  in  software.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 10:13 pm Post subject: Re: Are you bumping up your Post Counts! Reply with quote

 Hi  Moderators,
 
 trevor,  PC,  aquadip2000,  aquascapes,  nature_lover,  retro_gk  and  deepesh,  you  have  additional  added  resposibility  in  the  Sub-forums  as  moderators.  Please  check  This  Link  for  the  updated  responsibility
 
 Where  you  see  "Admin",  you  will  be  assisted  by  the  Admin  group  in  your  responsibility.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 10:16 pm Post subject: Re: Are you bumping up your Post Counts! Reply with quote

 Just  adding  my  0.0075  BHD  to  this  thread.
 
 I've  brought  up  the  idea  of  a  warning  point  system  at  least  twice  before,  and  its  never  been  taken  seriously.  I  voiced  my  concerns  on  the  incessant  spam  in  the  forums  and  that  got  shot  down.
 
 There  should  be  quite  a  bit  of  self  regulation,  and  a  perfect  example  can  be  found  in  Clowny's  thread  HERE
 The  conversation  went  off  topic  and  she  nipped  it  in  the  bud.  Good  for  her,  thats  the  way  it  should  be  done.
 
 The  Buy/Sell  forum  is  a  forum  thats  really  abused  and  I  don't  mean  in  only  the  ways  discussed  above.  Its  all  become  a  game  of  one-upmanship  in  this  forum.   Any  poster  who  posts  something  for  sale  is  sometimes  subject  to  lots  of  posts  detrimental  to  his  sale,  sometimes  its  legitimate,  sometimes  its  not.  Again  this  forum  is  meant  to  be  a  B/S/E  forum  and  not  a  discussion  forum.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 10:28 pm Post subject: Re: Are you bumping up your Post Counts! Reply with quote

 Pradeep,  everything  you  said  has  been  taken  seriously,  the  warning  points  or  an  alternative  system  is  under  consideration,  integrating  the  whole  jim  bang  into  what  we  have  here  will  take  some  effort.
 
 There  will  be  a  Seller  Grading  system  and  a  Buyer  Grading  system  up  in  some  form.  It  will  take  a  while  as  we  have  to  ensure  this  is  not  misused  as  you  mentioned  in  your  post.  Whoever  grades  someone  should  be  visible  to  all,  so  that  he  has  damn  good  reasons  to  backup  his  grading.
 
 Let's  see  if  this  can  be  done  without  having  the  Admins  and  Mods  having  to  continuously  update  the  Buyer/Seller  list  often.
 
 Firstly  we'll  restrict  posts  in  the  Buy  /  Sell  /  Exchange  forum  strictly  to  hobbyists  who  are  genuinely  wanting  to  get  rid  of  their  excess  livestock/equipment  and  keep  the  "traders"  out.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 10:41 pm Post subject: Re: Are you bumping up your Post Counts! Reply with quote

                                                   
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Firstly  we'll  restrict  posts  in  the  Buy  /  Sell  /  Exchange  forum  strictly  to  hobbyists  who  are  genuinely  wanting  to  get  rid  of  their  excess  livestock/equipment  and  keep  the  "traders"  out.                

 
   Thumb Up  
 
 I  am  all  for  it  Madan
 
 If  the  traders  want  to  advertise  on  the  site,  for  a  fee,  that  should  be  encouraged.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 2:46 am Post subject: Re: Are you bumping up your Post Counts! Reply with quote

                                                   
dashingoan  wrote  (View  Post):                
i  am  all  for  it  Madan
 
 If  the  traders  want  to  advertise  on  the  site,  for  a  fee,  that  should  be  encouraged.                

 
 
 Advertising  on  IAH  is  already  possible  in  the  top  most  section  of  the  webpage.
 
 
 As  far  as  the  LFS  announcements  go,i  am  not  sure  as  to  how  feasible  this  is...It  might  even  be  a  lot  to  ask  out  of  the  admins  and  moderators  but,what  if  the  LFS  and  buy/sell  section  is  completely  moderated  before  the  Members  get  to  view  it.Before  the  thread  is  seen  to  the  rest  of  the  members,the  mods  could  probably  read  through  the  post  and  then  decide  as  to  if  the  post  is  a  frivolous  one  or  if  it  could  be  approved.This  may  to  an  extent  bring  down  the  spamming.Even  after  the  approval  ,  if  theres  repeated  spamming  in  the  thread  by  any  user,the  person  could  be  reported  by  the  other  hobbyists.
 
 
 The  idea  of  locking  the  thread  may  not  really  work  indeed.....considering  there  may  be  many  genuine  hobbyists  too...as  pointed  out  earlier  on.
 
 
 Irrespective  of  whether  this  is  tackled  immediately  or  not,am  convinced  with  the  idea  of  banning  a  user  for  frivolous  and  unwanted  posts   Smile
 
 
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 3:46 pm Post subject: Re: Are you bumping up your Post Counts! Reply with quote

 hi  guys  
 just  back  from  my  vacation...
 
 What  needs  to  be  done  has  to  be  done...
 
 I  agree  with  madan  on  his  inputs...
 
 We  all  should  take  an  initiative  in  making  this  site  better..
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 10:04 am Post subject: Re: Are you bumping up your Post Counts! Reply with quote

 Thanks  for  an  immediate  positive  compliance  guys.
 
 We  are  very  happy  all  have  taken  note  of  our  concerns.
 
   I  quote  this  thread  as  an  example,  this  should  be  how  threads  in  the  Buy  /  Sell  /  Exchange  Forum  should  be.  Prurshaottam  you  may  kindly  post  when  the  sale  is  completed  in  the  same  tthread.
 
 Thank  You  all  again  for  making  IAH  the  Portal  it  is.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 10:47 am Post subject: Re: Are you bumping up your Post Counts! Reply with quote

 Hi  Guys,
 
 I  just  logged  in  after  a  couple  of  days  break.  Great  to  see  this  discussion  happening.
 
 Madan,
 Thank  you  for  the  additional  responsibilities  provided.  We  are  here  to  help  the  cause  of  the  Indian  Aquarium  Hobbyist.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 11:54 am Post subject: Re: Are you bumping up your Post Counts! Reply with quote

 Hi  Admin  &  Moderaters,
 
 I  am  totally  agree  with  Mr.  Madan  and  i  also  appologize  for  the  message  like  this,  if  i  have  done  in  the  past.  And  from  here  i  will  try  to  remember  this.  I  also  welcome  that  the  ranking  has  been  changed  from  post  counts  to  other  procedure.  But  i  suggest  the  ranking  should  be  on  the  person's  educatory  articles  which  helps  the  new  beginners  and  other  members  in  his  aqua  intrestes.  And  the  one  more  thing  that  there  should  be  a  proper  ID's  not  like  meaningless  id  it  should  be  by  names  (i  dont  want  to  comment  on  a  proper  person  but  i  have  seen  so  many  meaningless  id's  on  IAH).  I  also  wanna  change  my  Id  from  rakshit  to  pankaj  but  it  was  not  changed  as  i  tried  to  change  it.
 
 And  again  i  appologize  for  my  last  short  post.
 
 
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 12:56 pm Post subject: Re: Are you bumping up your Post Counts! Reply with quote

 Permit  me  to  ask  a  very  basic  question.  Very Happy  
 Why  have  a  post  count  at  all?
 Why  does  it  matter  if  I  have  a  10000  posts  or  10  posts.
 IAH  is  a  hobby  site  and  it  is  for  hobbyists,  the  very  name  of  IAH  says  that.
 The  only  prefixes  to  names  should  be  moderators  &  admins,  there  should  not  be  anything  else,  not  even  post  counts  aganist  names.
 If  I  want  to  see  my  post  count  I  can  always  go  and  visit  my  porfile.
 Post  counts  can  be  misleading,  if  I  am  new  and  somebody  with  a  post  count  of  1000  replies  to  my  post,  I  will  think  what  ever  he  is  saying  is  accurate,  while  it  might  be  a  lot  of  Edit.  Is  there  is  no  designation  or  post  count  I  will  weigh  each  member's  reply  before  implementing  it.
 Let  the  revolution  begin  Guns  and  kill  all  designations
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 1:16 pm Post subject: Re: Are you bumping up your Post Counts! Reply with quote

 Hi,
 I  don't  know  if  it  is  feasible  but  like  many  IT  technical  forums  across  in  internet  why  don't  we  have  star  rating  system  which  is  rated  by  users  who  ask  the  question.  Just  a  thought  and  might  need  lots  of  modifications  before  it  becomes  a  useful  one.
 Also  more  the  number  of  quality  posts,  the  members  accumulate  more  points  and  climb  up  the  ladder.Judge  of  both  aquatic  experience  and  forum  seniority  levels!
 
 
 Couple  of  IT  forum  links  which  have  members  rated  based  on  their  quality  posts.Can  see  the  member  rankings  in  the  right  side  of  the  page.
 
 http://www.experts-exchange.com/Database/Oracle/Q_22454636.html
 http://www.vmware.com/community/forum.jspa?forumID=284
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 2:33 pm Post subject: Re: Are you bumping up your Post Counts! Reply with quote

 Post  Count  is  an  automatic  counter  inherent  to  this  software.
 
 Forget  about  member  ranking,  we  don't  need  that,  a  bunch  of  guys  can  keep  giving  each  other  5  stars.  Too  much  monitoring  for  us  admins  to  perform.  However  if  there  is  something  available  we'll  look  into  it.
 
 First  and  foremost  we  want  a  ranking  system  for  anyone  who  posts  in  the  Buy/Sell/Exchange  forum  and  LFS  announcements.  This  is  most  important,  let's  see  how  this  goes  on  a  trial  basis  whenever  we  are  able  to  enable  such  a  system.
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