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PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 1:03 am Post subject: goldfish - reddish on body & near fins Reply with quote

 my  goldfishes  have  got  reddish  color  (clots/sores?)  on  their  body,  most  prominently  where  most  of  their  fin  starts.  these  have  started  "sprouting"  some  white  protrusions  (similar  to  a  small  hair)  from  their  center.  what  is  the  problem  and  what  can  be  the  solution?  i  have  isolated  the  worst  affected  goldie  and  put  it  on  methylene  blue  and  salt.  the  main  aquarium  i  have  put  just  salt.  will  this  help?
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 10:22 am Post subject:  Reply with quote

 Hi,
 It  might  be  Anchor  worm,Try  pulling  out  the  thread  with  a  tweezer.These  worms  multiply  fast,Use  a  medication  for  Anchor  worms  manufactured  by  Waterlife  UK,This  is  very  effective  against  Anchor  worms
 With  regards
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 what  happens  if  i  do  not  pull  them  out?  i  mean  it  is  going  to  be  difficult  holding  the  fish  and  pulling  them  out.  also,  are  there  any  local  medicines  available  in  india  for  this?
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 The  reddish  sores  can  be  from  bacterial  infection.  This  basically  results  from  poor  water  conditions.  Check  ammonia,  nitrate  levels.  
 If  you  don't  have  test  kits  go  in  for  a  water  change
 The  white  hair  like  growth  can  sometimes  also  be  dried  scales  just  before  they  fall  off.
 Kindly  take  care  because  at  this  stage  disease  is  already  failry  advanced  stage.
 Try  to  minimize  the  stress  to  the  fish,  manually  removing  might  do  even  more  damage.
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 I'll  advise  you  to  net  the  fish  and  just  pull  out  the  anchor  worms  with  a  pair  of  twesers  and  administer  a  dose  of  anti-parasite  medication  to  the  tank  -  it  is  not  any  bacterial  infection  it  is  just  a  parasite  attack!
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 I  agree  with  aquaspaces....  these  are  anchor  worms  and  these  worms  anchor  themselves  in  the  body  of  the  gold  fish  causing  them  much  pain  and  stress....  I  have  faced  this  same  problem.....
 
 with  much  difficulty,  I  removed  the  worms  sticking  to  the  body  of  the  fish....  sometimes,  it  cause  huge  wounds  on  the  body  of  the  fish,  but  gave  a  dip  in  potassium  permanganate  water  to  cool  the  burns  in  the  wound.....
 
 the  cause  of  the  anchor  worms  is  poor  water  quality...  improve  the  water  quality  of  your  tank  ASAP
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the  cause  of  the  anchor  worms  is  poor  water  quality...  improve  the  water  quality  of  your  tank  ASAP                

 I  agree  with  improving  water  quality  but,  more  than  that  change  your  lfs!
 It  comes  on  the  fish  itself  and  multiplies  in  your  tank  -  acquire  your  fish  from  better  sources  to  ensure  you  buy  healthy  fish.
 Net  the  fish  and  give  them  a  KMNO4  bath  -  pull  out  the  anchor  worms  -  shift  them  to  a  quarantine  or  hospital  tank  and  disinfect  your  main  tank  with  formaline  or  KMNO4  -  set  the  tank  again  and  after  it  cycles  introduce  the  fish  -  meantime  treat  the  fish  with  a  anti-parasite  medication
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 thanks  folks  for  all  your  help.  i  was  also  surfing  the  net  and  became  a  surgeon  on  saturday  night  Smile...  below  is  what  i  did  (just  in  case  some  newbie  wants  to  know)..
 
 steps:
 1.  depending  on  the  fish  size,  get  a  suitable  shallow  container.  it  should  not  be  too  large  or  deep.  i  used  a  sweet  box  (halwa  container)  which  was  lying  around  after  washing/cleaning  to  be  used  as  a  storage  box.  the  reason  for  it  being  used  was  not  to  allow  the  fish  too  much  room  to  swim  around.
 
 2.  get  potassium  permanganate.  this  costs  about  Rs.10  for  20gm  (minimum  quantity  that  was  available  at  the  shop).  bought  it  at  a  chemist  shop.  take  a  small  dish  -  i  used  the  top  of  a  jar  as  a  pseudo-petri  dish.  put  some  potassium  permanganate  crystals  in  it  with  some  water
 
 3.  get  an  earbud,  tweezer  (plucker),  an  old  clean  cloth  piece.  the  cloth  will  be  used  to  hold  the  fish  (if  necessary)
 
 4.  net  the  "patient"  and  put  it  in  the  operating  theatre  (the  sweet  box  in  my  case).  allow  the  fish  to  get  used  to  the  surrounding  -  about  2-3  min.  all  the  fish  in  my  case  were  calm  after  some  time.  then  comes  the  difficult  part.  using  the  tweezer,  pull  out  the  worms  one  by  one.  if  the  worms  are  long,  they  will  come  out  easily.  infact,  ALL  my  fishes  (about  4  of  them)  were  very  helpful  with  the  operation...  they  would  stay  still  as  if  they  knew  i  was  helping  them  out.  it  was  incredible  -  i  just  could  not  believe  it.  after  the  worms  are  pulled  out,  the  fish  will  bleed  -  i  take  it  was  a  success  -  this  means  that  the  worm  is  out  completely.
 
 5.  dip  the  earbud  in  the  potassium  permanganate  solution.  use  the  cloth  piece  (dip  in  water  to  make  it  moist)  to  get  the  fish  out  of  water.  dab  the  potassium  permanganate  solution  on  the  wounds.  if  the  wound  is  near  the  gills  of  the  eyes,  skip  this  part.
 
 6.  release  the  fish  in  the  box.  dip  the  earbud  in  the  solution  and  then  dip  it  in  the  box  -  that  is,  put  some  solution  into  the  box.  do  not  make  it  too  much  -  just  enough  to  give  a  pink  color  (not  too  pink)  to  the  water  in  the  sweet  box.  let  the  fish  be  in  this  box  for  some  time  -  about  5  min  in  my  case
 
 7.  move  the  fish  to  another  area  -  since  i  had  no  hospital  tank,  i  used  a  very  large  jar  which  i  use  as  a  hospital  tank
 
 8.  repeat  the  "surgery"  for  all  infected  fish
 
 i  had  very  great  difficulty  in  removing  the  worms  which  were  on  the  underside  and  near  the  gill  fins.  they  took  the  longest.  the  easiest  were  when  the  worms  were  on  the  sides  or  on  top.
 
 since  my  "hospital  tank"  i.e.  jar  is  not  big  enough  to  hold  all  the  fish,  i  had  to  move  them  back  to  their  tank.  put  in  some  methylene  blue  and  salt.  it  is  now  greater  than  24  hrs  and  all  the  fish  seem  to  be  doing  fine.  
 
 i  understand  that  i  may  have  to  repeat  this  process  all  over  again  since  some  of  the  fishes  could  still  be  carrying  the  worms  inside  which  will  break  out  after  some  time.
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 i  also  did  about  80%  of  water  change.  will  have  to  repeat  this  for  some  days  on  alternate  days  hoping  to  get  rid  of  all  the  worms  or  eggs.  also,  the  blue  may  be  killing  the  beneficial  bacteria,  so  need  to  keep  ammonia  low
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 8:12 pm Post subject: Re: goldfish - reddish on body & near fins Reply with quote

 i  have  put  my  gold  in  a  seperate  tank  and  added  salt  and  some  drops  of  finrot  medicine  wich  i  bot  from  the  fish  clinic  is  it  ok  or  should  i  take  other  steps  please  help
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 8:44 pm Post subject: Re: goldfish - reddish on body & near fins Reply with quote

 Hi  tetra_72,
 
 Please  check  out  the  date  of  this  thread,  its  15-16  months  old.  
 
 Anyway,  coming  to  your  queries...
 Well...  do  a  large  number  of  water  change  and  treat  him  with  any  anti  parasite  medicine.
 
 But  for  best  &  quick  result  treat  him  with  AZOO  Ectoparasite  Treater.  Thumb Up
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 9:11 pm Post subject: Re: goldfish - reddish on body & near fins Reply with quote

 where  do  i  get  AZOO  ectoparasite  treater
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 9:20 pm Post subject: Re: goldfish - reddish on body & near fins Reply with quote

 Where  are  you  from  Confused
 
 Please  edit  your  profile  &  mention  your  real  name  with  location  on  your  signature,  will  be  better  for  all  of  us.  Smile
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 11:30 am Post subject: Re: goldfish - reddish on body & near fins Reply with quote

 i  am  from  chennai
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 1:17 am Post subject: Re: goldfish - reddish on body & near fins Reply with quote

                                                   
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i  am  from  chennai                

 I  dont  know  any  person  in  chennai  who  deals  in  AZOO  products,  but  you  can  get  it  from  aquascapes  (IAH  Moderator  of  Marine  section),  cokeamod  &  offcourse  from  me  also.  Very Happy
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