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PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 4:51 pm Post subject: Pros & Cons of a Different Tank Design Reply with quote

 I  am  making  a  tank  to  be  kept  on  a  stand,  thats  5feet  long,  and  2  feet  wide.  I  need  to  install  the  cannister  filter  below  and  dont  want  the  tubes  coming  to  the  tank  on  the  sides.
 
 If  I  want  the  tubes  coming  behind  the  tank,  I  will  have  to  reduce  the  breadth  of  the  tank  by  about  2  to  4  inches.  Forgot  to  mention  that  the  stand  is  pushed  against  a  wall,  and  so  no  space  left.  So,  my  tank  will  have  to  be  made  20  or  22  inches  wide.
 
 I  thought  of  a  different  design.
 
 What  if  I  made  the  tank  this  way?
 
 
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 This  way,  I  can  make  the  24  inches  wide,  and  bring  the  cannister  tubing  through  the  gap,  that  would  be  either  4  by  4  inches  or  5  by  5  inches.  Is  this  an  ok  idea,  and  I  would  like  to  know  your  views  on  the  pros  and  cons  of  this.
 
 I  will  be  using  a  fiber  background,  and  so  this  will  also  force  me  to  span  the  background  over  different  depths  adding  another  dimension.  Hiding  the  tubes  will  be  a  breeze,  I  can  surely  take  care  of  that.
 
 Ideas  welcome!
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 4:59 pm Post subject: Re: Pros & Cons of a Different Tank Design Reply with quote

 Drill  holes  nytyn.  You  can  later  use  it  as  your  marine  tank.
 
 I  somehow  don't  like  this  design.  JMO.  YMOWV.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 5:54 pm Post subject: Re: Pros & Cons of a Different Tank Design Reply with quote

 HI  Nitin,
   I  suppose  you  have  seen  Adip's  tanks,  He  has  drilled  the  bottom  of  the  tank  and  a  fiber  tube  is  attached  all  the  way  till  the  top,  May  be  you  can  drill  holes  at  the  bottom  corners  at  the  back  and  bring  the  tubes  till  the  top  and  use  that  as  inlet  and  outlet  for  the  cannister  with  pipes.  This  would  not  complicate  the  cuts  and  the  shapes  of  the  tank  and  the  tubes  can  be  easily  hidden.
 
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 6:24 pm Post subject: Re: Pros & Cons of a Different Tank Design Reply with quote

 Will  look  at  that  option  too.  Somehow  I  am  not  very  comfortable  drilling  tanks.I  know  the  drilling  will  be  done  before  the  tank  is  made,  but  even  then.
 
 In  case  of  a  leak  on  the  joint,  it  will  be  a  major  thing!
 
 I  am  seriously  thinking  if  my  idea  can  be  done,  or  not!
 
 My  easiest  way  out  is  making  the  tank  20  inches  wide,  and  I  can  easily  install  the  tubing  behind!
 
 But  greedy  me,  is  interested  in  reclaiming  those  4  inches,  for  the  fishes!  How  does  my  idea  sound?
 
 I  also  need  to  know  if  this  will  greatly  bring  down  the  integrity  of  the  tank.  Or  will  it  increase  it,  as  we  are  reducing  the  size  of  the  longest  piece  of  glass  in  the  tank.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 6:27 pm Post subject: Re: Pros & Cons of a Different Tank Design Reply with quote

 Hi  Nitin,
 
 The  cut  that  you  have  shown  might  look  very  unsightly  from  the  front.  Besides  trying  to  calculate  the  amount  of  water  pressure  on  the  smaller  pieces  of  glass  is  going  to  be  a  chore.
 
 Why  not  drill  like  the  others  have  pointed  out?
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 6:36 pm Post subject: Re: Pros & Cons of a Different Tank Design Reply with quote

 nytyn  don't  be  another  Amano  from  Chennai.  Drill  the  tank.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 6:37 pm Post subject: Re: Pros & Cons of a Different Tank Design Reply with quote

 The  whole  thing  is  going  to  be  painted  black.  I  mean  the  back  glass.  And  the  entire  back  will  be  covered  by  a  rocky  looking  fiber  background.  So,  looks  wont  be  a  problem  for  sure.
 
 I  am  only  looking  at  feasibility  of  this,  and  also  integrity  of  the  tank.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 6:40 pm Post subject: Re: Pros & Cons of a Different Tank Design Reply with quote

 Wouldn't  drilling  be  cheaper  and  easier?  With  such  a  large  tank,  why  try  out  something  you  haven't  and  pray  it  works.
 
 I  am  sure  you  have  drilled  tanks  before.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 7:29 pm Post subject: Re: Pros & Cons of a Different Tank Design Reply with quote

 Madan,  I  missed  your  comment.  Whats  up  with  Venkashi  Aman0.  Been  a  really  long  time,  since  I  saw  him  on  the  forums!
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 8:08 pm Post subject: Re: Pros & Cons of a Different Tank Design Reply with quote

 Hi  Nytyn
 
          First  recommendation  Drill  Holes.  But  since  you  sound  very  skeptical  about  the  idea,  here  is  another  design.
          My  2nd  suggestion  is  giving  slanting  faces  at  the  back  corners  the  space  they  create  will  be  enough  for  the  tubing  of  the  external  filter.  This  design  I  feel  will  be  better  as  it  will  take  up  the  least  amount  of  space  away  from  the  tank  itself.  The  integrity  with  this  design  should  not  be  an  issue.
 
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 9:24 pm Post subject: Re: Pros & Cons of a Different Tank Design Reply with quote

 ...why  again  were  you  doing  this...??  To  have  the  tank  completely  at  the  back  against  a  wall  right  or  stand  right..??
 
 I  really  would  suggest  you  lose  you  the  2-3  inches  of  the  tank  for  workspace,  it  is  always  nice  to  have  some  room  at  the  back  of  the  tank,  if  the  tank  is  24  inches  wide,  make  it  21  and  you  will  avoid  a  lot  of  hassles,  
 I  have  looked  into  getting  my  tanks  drilled,  but  chose  against  it,  as  I  too  was  afraid  of  leaks  at  a  later  point  in  time,  also  if  I  ever  decided  on  moving  
 the  tank  or  decided  on  something  different....
 
 Well,  on  the  other  hand  if  you  are  really  'different'  and  dont  want  holes  drilled  why  not  try  a  slight  Bow  Back  tank...wherein  you  will  not  have  90'  angles  and  nor  many  pieces  of  different  glass...you  will  have  your  workspace  and  the  slight  bow  back  will  give  you  enough  room  for  all  the  pipes,  wire  etc  you  might  want  to  pass...
 
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 4:43 pm Post subject: Re: Pros & Cons of a Different Tank Design Reply with quote

 Tank  made.  60  X  21  X  30!
 
 Will  post  pictures  of  the  progress  in  a  separate  thread!
 
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 Hi  Nytin:
 
 This  is  what  I  have  done  for  the  FOWLR  setup  that  I  am  trying  at  my  place.  This  is  a  simple  overflow  design  from  various  sites  available  online.  If  you  have  anything  to  ask  me  about  the  acrylic  work  I  think  the  credit  goes  to  Perikaruppan  for  having  done  most  of  the  work  behind  this  design.  Hope  this  is  of  use  to  you.
 
 
 
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 10:43 am Post subject: Re: Pros & Cons of a Different Tank Design Reply with quote

 Ah  Ahhhh....
 
   Was  just  waiting  for  this  pic  venky.  
 Just  a  off  topic  question...  How  have  you  got  the  siphon  working  in  here  ???  is  it  by  a  pump  or  by  capillary  effect????
 
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 12:09 pm Post subject: Re: Pros & Cons of a Different Tank Design Reply with quote

 Solving  the  problem  as  mine  what  I  would  have  done  is  cut  off  the  rear  corners  of  the  tank  to  the  extent  that  I  could  insert  the  pipe,  then  pasted  strips  of  black  glass  in  the  corner  to  make  trianglular  corners.  No  worries  that  the  tank  would  accidentally  drain.  Inserted  the  pipes  through  the  triangles  to  above  the  tank  and  then  turned  the  pipes  180  degrees  back  to  the  tank.
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