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PostPosted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 3:16 am Post subject: cheap and best option available........ Reply with quote

 hi  guys
 
 i  have  a  tank  of  abt  3ft  and  lukin  and  have  2  CFL's  philips  daylight  ......
 now  i  m  lukin  a  guuud  planted  setup  plz  tel  me  the  cheapest  way  to  get  the  lighting  done  .....
 i  have  gt  2*18wat  philips  truelight  
 and  have  a  ballast  of  40wat  
 can  i  have  2  20wat  tubes  with  one  ballast?????
 how  much  light  do  i  need  ????
 plz  suggest  me  some  cheap  options  available  plzzz
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 10:03 am Post subject: Re: cheap and best option available........ Reply with quote

 hi  suneesh,please  update  your  profile  about  your  location  and  interests  so  that  the  IAHians  can  guide  you.  Smile  moreover  it  is  a  good  idea  to  type  in  proper  english  !no  offence      Thumb Up  
 please  go  through  earlier  posts  where  you  can  get  details  regarding  lighting  equipment
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 11:00 am Post subject: Re: cheap and best option available........ Reply with quote

 Hi  Suneesh
 
    When  you  talk  about  lights  in  a  planted  aquarium  it  is  directly  related  to  the  volume  of  water  and  the  height  of  the  tank.  Give  us  the  dimensions  of  your  tank,  so  that  the  suggestions  will  be  more  accurate.
 
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 11:40 am Post subject: Re: cheap and best option available........ Reply with quote

 Hi  Suneesh,
 
 
                                                 
suneeshkachroo  wrote  (View  Post):                

 i  have  gt  2*18wat  philips  truelight  
 and  have  a  ballast  of  40wat  
 can  i  have  2  20wat  tubes  with  one  ballast?????
                 

 
 It  is  possible  only  with  a  copper  choke,  where  both  the  tubelights  are  connected  in  series.
 The  drawback  is  the  starters   Sad   Sad  
 
 As  with  Electronic  chokes,  I  have  heard  of  a  company  who  makes  2  X  20W  or  2  X  40W  chokes  but  yet  to  source  them.
 
 Give  us  the  specs  of  the  Tanks  so  that  the  Guru's  can  help  you.
 
 TC
 
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 11:58 am Post subject: Re: cheap and best option available........ Reply with quote

                                                   
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It  is  possible  only  with  a  copper  choke,  where  both  the  tubelights  are  connected  in  series.                
NO!
 
 You  can  run  two  2  ft  T8  tubes  with  single  40  watts  electronic  choke.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 12:23 pm Post subject: Re: cheap and best option available........ Reply with quote

 Hi  DJ,
 
 Are  you  sure,  I  have  tried  it  myself  but  it  did  not  work,  only  one  of  the  lights  come  on.
 
 BTW  What  is  the  make  of  the  choke  ??
 
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 12:54 pm Post subject: Re: cheap and best option available........ Reply with quote

 my  Tank  size  is  30"  20"  15"which  is  around  39  US  gallon  .......
 
 i  m  lukin  forward  to  setup  planted  tank  ....
 
 so  is  it  possible  to  set  up  2  tube  light  of  18  what  T8  with  one  40  what  ballast????
 
 n  suggest  me  the  amount  of  light  do  i  require  minimum  and  maximum   ??
 
 guys  plz  dont  suggest  me  any  expensive  stuff  cuz  i  wont  b  able  to  afford  it   i  have  budget  of  around  500rs  for  lighting  so  better  keep  it  under  that  .......
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 1:01 pm Post subject: Re: cheap and best option available........ Reply with quote

 Hi  Suneesh
 
   Â 
                                                 
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n  suggest  me  the  amount  of  light  do  i  require  minimum  and  maximum  Â ??  
                 

 
   Aim  for  2WPG  -  3WPG.  In  your  case  it  will  be  arround  72W  -  108W.  Just  2  18W  tubes  will  be  way  too  low.
 
   
                                                 
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so  is  it  possible  to  set  up  2  tube  light  of  18  what  T8  with  one  40  what  ballast????  
                 

 
   Yes,  it  is  definately  possible  with  a  copper  choke  you  have  to  set  the  lights  in  serial.  With  certain  ECGs  it  doesnot  work.
 
   
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 1:06 pm Post subject: Re: cheap and best option available........ Reply with quote

 Hi
 
   
                                                 
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guys  plz  dont  suggest  me  any  expensive  stuff  cuz  i  wont  b  able  to  afford  it   i  have  budget  of  around  500rs  for  lighting  so  better  keep  it  under  that  .......  
   
                 

 
   Sorry  missed  out  the  last  question.....Look  at  36W  Pll  it  will  still  be  a  little  over  your  budget.....say  arround  Rs.700-Rs.800for  2  of  them  with  ECGs.  Try  and  get  Samson  7200k  lamp  and  6500k  lamp.  If  you  find  it  difficult  to  procure  I  can  help  you  with  it,  I  am  a  wholeseller  for  Samson  lightiong.
 
 Hope  this  helps!
 
 Regards
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 2:11 pm Post subject: Re: cheap and best option available........ Reply with quote

 Hi,
 
 Take  a  look  at  -  2  Lamps  on  Single  Cu  or  Al  Choke
 
 
 Go  in  for  Electronic  chokes  -  in  the  long  run  you'll  save  on  power  bill  +  improve  the  lamp  life.  Yes,  initial  investment  is  marginally  high.
 
 Problems  attributed  with  Copper  or  Aluminium  chokes  â€“  High  Heat  +  reduced  lamp  life  +  internal  losses.  With  Electronic  Choke  the  wiring  is  much  easier  &  Starter  is  built  into  it.
   
 IMO,  Cheapest  &  economic  option  is  6  x  18W  Philips  trulite  with  Electronic  Chokes.
 
   
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 11:53 pm Post subject: Re: cheap and best option available........ Reply with quote

 THe  schematic  presentation  is  good  and  this  worked  with  me  too.  The  thing  is  the  starters  1  &  2  .  U  ask  your  electrical  trader  110volt  Starter  of  philips.  It  comes  only  from  Philips  and  no  other  company  manufacture's  it.  The  regular  starters  wont  work.
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 yaaaa
   i  tryd  to  get  that  circuit  done  with  the  normal  starters  but  it  dint  work  .........
 
 n  what  i  was  thinkin  that  i  hv  tublights  of  18*2  i.e  "36watts"  but  the  ballast  is  of  "40watt"  so  may  b  thats  the  reason  ...........
 
 Now  this  110wat  starter  comes  into  picture  lets  c   it  works  or  not  .....
 thanx  KINGFISHER.............  Rock On  
 
   my  most  important  question  is  still  standing  tall  ........
 how  much  light  do  i  require  maximum  and  minimum  ?????

 i  hv  a  6500k  philips  truelight   &  a  2700k  philips  truelight  both  18watt....
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 10:20 am Post subject: Re: cheap and best option available........ Reply with quote

 Hi  Suneesh
 
   
                                                 
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my  most  important  question  is  still  standing  tall  ........  
 how  much  light  do  i  require  maximum  and  minimum  ?????                  

 
    I  have  already  answered  that  question  for  you  72W  -108  W,  i.e  min  -  max.  In  terms  of  18W  tubes  4-  6  tubes.
 
   Regards
    Harshal
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 12:55 pm Post subject: Re: cheap and best option available........ Reply with quote

 someone  list  some  of  the  cheap  lighting  options  available  in  delhi  .........
 
 i  did  check  the  price  of  the  Hitachi  tubelight  available  at  some  LFS  but  uts  for  250RS  each  ....  is  it  the  real  price  or  can  i  gt  it  for  less  price  anywhere  ???
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Supra
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 1:21 pm Post subject: Re: cheap and best option available........ Reply with quote

 Hi  Suneesh,
 
 
                                                 
suneeshkachroo  wrote  (View  Post):                

 i  tryd  to  get  that  circuit  done  with  the  normal  starters  but  it  dint  work  .........
 n  what  i  was  thinkin  that  i  hv  tublights  of  18*2  i.e  "36watts"  but  the  ballast  is  of  "40watt"  so  may  b  thats  the  reason  ...........
 Now  this  110wat  starter  comes  into  picture  lets  c   it  works  or  not  .....
                 

 
 36  W  &  40  W  ,  does  not  make  a  difference,  both  should  work,  not  an  issue.  I  am  sure  you  are  doing  something  wrong  with  regards  to  the  connections.  Did  you  twist  the  tubes  after  connecting  them  &  also  ensure  that  the  starters  are  firing  ??
 The  illustration  posted  by  aquadeep  is  also  displayed  on  the  Phillips  Copper  choke  itself,  so  definitely  it  should  work.
 
 110V  I  am  not  sure,  but  just  ask  around  before  you  buy  it  because  you  may  be  in  danger  of  oveshooting  your  budget  with  something  that  does  not  work.  Surprised   Surprised  
 
 Rgds
 
 Supra
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