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kuksinhyd
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 Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 3:26 pm Post subject: CORAL ID Pls |
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| Can somone please ID these and are they legal to keep in India |
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psimhan
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| Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 4:26 pm Post subject: Re: CORAL ID Pls |
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1. Little confused on it. Will update you.
2. Gonipora
3. Acropora
Both 2 & 3 are illegal. |
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aquascapes
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| Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 5:33 pm Post subject: Re: CORAL ID Pls |
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Coral #1 looks very much like Cladiella sp. (finger leather coral) = soft coral
Coral #2 looks exactly like a Goniopora sp. (daisy coral) = sps
Coral #3 resembles Sarcophyton sp. (Mushroom leather coral) = soft coral
Coral #4 seen in the background of Picture #3 looks like Favia sp. (moon coral/closed brain coral) = sps  |
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| Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 1:00 pm Post subject: Re: CORAL ID Pls |
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1.) Finger leather coral Lobophyta. Soft coral. Small polyps. Colour of polyps differs according to variety & lighting. Make sure there is no accumulation of detrius on this coral. Make sure no brown algae takes hold on this coral. Requires medium water flow. Usually to be kept in the mid water levels.
2.) Daisy coral Goniopora. Hard coral LPS. Polyp length may vary according to existing water flow in your tank & also on species. Very prone to tissue necrosis ie degeneration of soft tissue due to careless handling & secondary bacterial infection followed by fungal infection. Requires good water flow.
3.) Toadstool / Undulated leather Sarcophyton. Soft coral. Small Polyps.Colour of polyps differs according to variety & lighting. Make sure there is no accumulation of detrius on this coral. Make sure no brown algae takes hold on this coral. Placement is not a major concern so long as it gets very good water flow & good lighting.
All the corals will do exceptionally well. Make sure to add trace elements that have iodine, magnesium, calcium, strontium, molybednum etc.
There is no clear policy whether you are allowed to keep any corals at all. So if you have them dont ADVERTISE them.
with best regards
Rohit |
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psimhan
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| Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 1:03 pm Post subject: Re: CORAL ID Pls |
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4 years as a member, 1 post - this is better than Nimmat
Welcome back to IAH, Rohit. |
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Madan
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| Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 1:14 pm Post subject: Re: CORAL ID Pls |
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I heard of some aquarists being targeted because they posted their corals in a forum or orkut or somewhere else. I don't know how far this is true or if it just was a doomsday Edit.
Giving your mobile number in your signature will trace your address.
I guess Rohit is advocating caution. |
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| Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 1:15 pm Post subject: Re: CORAL ID Pls |
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| Rohit wrote (View Post):
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All the corals will do exceptionally well.
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Please! There are not many people who have been able to maintain Gonios in the long term. |
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drsuresh
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| Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 1:19 pm Post subject: Re: CORAL ID Pls |
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| beta wrote (View Post):
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| Rohit wrote (View Post):
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All the corals will do exceptionally well.
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Please! There are not many people who have been able to maintain Gonios in the long term.
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@Rohit, kindly quote your personal experience on the above.  |
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psimhan
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| Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 1:21 pm Post subject: Re: CORAL ID Pls |
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| beta wrote (View Post):
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Please! There are not many people who have been able to maintain Gonios in the long term.
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I've hear that too.
But then again they supposedly grow exceptionally well near sewage lines entering the sea. |
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Rohit
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| Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 3:05 pm Post subject: Re: CORAL ID Pls |
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Thanks for welcoming me back Pradeep. I would have been a more frequent visitor had i not forgotten my password.
When i was cautioning it was not just caution. The Indian Wildlife act has banned all corals. They have not been very specific about which ones they have banned. As in they say that any species that is in the CITES endangered list is to be considered banned. The best thing to do if you are into reefs & corals as such is to really do your homework on the species that you intend to keep & then do everything to keep the organism in pristine health & to not advertise that you have corals. Goniopora as i have stated earlier are very prone to Rapid Tissue Necrosis (RTN). This condition is the basic reason that most people suffer loses with goniopara coral varieties. The coral comes heavily stressed firs due to improper handling by the collector, second improper method of packaging, third improper method of introduction to the aquarium. I think i shall put a full explenation of the previous statement here.
1.) By improper handling by the collector i mean the way the coral is collected in the sea. The proper method to collect the goniopora coral is to choose small coral pieces that are not more than 3" across and have not grown on rocks with any sponges. The coral should not have any worm holes at the base. The collector should wear surgical gloves so that he does not touch the coral tissue directly with his hand. This is done so that the coral will not lose much of its mucus protection. All the coral polyps should be made to close before the coral is broken off its location. This can be achieved by just swirling the hand all round the coral. The coral should be packed into a bubble wrap & put into the plastic bag inside water. This is done so that the coral tissue does not rip with its own weight outside water. Handle the coral as few times as possible. Keep only 1 coral in 1 bag.
2.) By improper method of packing i meant the dealer / wholesaler who packs the coral to ship to you should also take care to follow the packing procedure as mentioned above. There should be no dry packing of corals. There should be ice packs added to keep the temperature down during transit. The shipment should be the fastest mode possible. The dealer / wholesaler should give details regarding the salinity & ph of the water the corals were placed in his stocking tanks.
3.) By improper method of introduction into the tank i meant that you cant just float the bag, mix water & finally just place it somewhere. You should know the lighting requirements for the coral that you have bought, its water flow requirements, basic ph & salinity. The proper method of introducing the coral would be to place it in a quarantine tank with good filteration, including activated charcoal & uv filteration. The water parameters should match those in your main tank. The uv filteration is to stop any diatom algal blooms as well as any bacterial blooms that will be detrimental to the coral's health. Place each of the corals that you wish to quarantine such that the polyps will never be able to touch any other coral's polyps. Chemical warefare is very rampant in corals. The quarantine tank should have lighting that you can adjust for intensity ie there should be additional lighting that you can put on timers to follow the natural light phase. there should be moderate flow in the tank. A protein skimmer should be used. The coral should never be placed directly on the bottom sand as it is sure to start dying wherever the sand comes into contact with the tissue. if your coral does not have an adequate base then please make one for it using underwater epoxy. Make a small marble size blob of the epoxy & place it on the rock to which you wish to attach the coral. Lift the coral & just place it on the blob of epoxy on the rock dont press. Make sure you dont damage the tissue while doing so. Do this as soon as you receive the corals. Give the coral atleast 2 weeks before you put it into your display.
Please feel free to criticise if you want to
With best regards
Rohit |
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Shankar
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| Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 3:43 pm Post subject: Re: CORAL ID Pls |
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| Rohit wrote (View Post):
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All the coral polyps should be made to close before the coral is broken off its location. This can be achieved by just swirling the hand all round the coral.
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A very valid and practical point, most of the people don't do. And why would one criticize when someone is willing to help out others? |
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| Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 4:20 pm Post subject: Re: CORAL ID Pls |
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@Madan
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heard of some aquarists being targeted because they posted their corals in a forum or orkut or somewhere else. I don't know how far this is true or if it just was a doomsday Edit.
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I am 100% positive it was true in mumbai. Cause 1 of them was a direct friend of mine and he had to pay a hefty bribe so as to not get arrested. As the offence is direct imprisonment and no bail. Infact his corals were moved to the Public Aquarium in Mumbai at Marine Drive and you can still see them there.
i remember speaking to nauzer a couple of weeks back and he mentioned of the same as well in mumbai.
The only difference was that it did not come thru orkut or a forum which they initially thought. It came through an LFS who was raided and he had a diary with contact information and orders of banned items.
However i still believe one should not advertise this info by any means. |
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| Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 4:31 pm Post subject: Re: CORAL ID Pls |
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Yeah, i too heard of a man who deleted his beautiful online album, fearing the raids. And his corals died shortly, due to the huge disappointment.  |
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| Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 4:41 pm Post subject: Re: CORAL ID Pls |
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@lalu
I dont think the person's corals died due to the disappointment of their pics being deleted.... lol
I think that was negligence from the person. Knowing that he is an experienced aquarist he should have taken preventive steps or got a chiller. If the person couldnt afford it there are simpler ways of trying to atleast make an attempt ... else he should have given them to someone who has a chiller and could keep them for him till the summers went by .. If you dont know of someone who can help u with it ...then dont keep corals.
I am scheduled to meet that person on sunday ...will spank him for sure ..lol |
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