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PostPosted: Sun Apr 17, 2005 7:20 pm Post subject: MIX-food Reply with quote

 How,much  this  type  of  self  mixed  foods  will  cause  for  our  food  i  have  been  feeding  oscars,arrowana,and  fh  with  raw  heart  pieces,for  more  than  
 three  years.  in  fh  there  was  no  significant  change.i  saw  one  article  in  FAQ
 about  mixed  beef  heart.how  about  this  mix  should  be  prepared  is  there
   any  special  methods  adopted.
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 HI  Rajesh,  
 
 I  Have  been  keeping  and  breeding  discus  for  many  years  with  this  recipe  ..  it  works  great  for  me  and  since  i  have  arrived  at  it  thru  trial  adn  error  have  never  ever  diverted  from  it.  Plus  theres  some  other  recipes  also  listed  here:
 
 http://www.angelfire.com/indie/discusworld/Food.htm
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 Follow  this  link:
 
 http://indianaquariumhobbyist.com/community/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=183&sid=29a76b7988b630d80e79a4b2a80bc306
 
 With  the  above  ingredients  i  add  1/2  kg  of  prawns  and  1/2  bunch  of  pudina.
 Note:  when  adding  prawns  cut  the  head  and  tail  part  and  the  shell  has  to  be  added  to  the  mix  because  the  shell  is  what  is  rich  in  carotene.
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 I  would  like  to  know  if  this  receipe(Beef  Heart  Mix)  is  only  for  discus  or  if  it  can  be  fed  as  staple  food  to  any  speices  (  omnivore/carnivore  fish)?
 
 Also,  whats  the  difference  between    Beef  Heart  and  Goat  heart  when  it  comes  to  nutritional  value,  and  their  effect  on  fish  growth  and  health?
 
 
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2005 2:56 pm Post subject: Re: MIX-food Reply with quote

                                                   
fishrajesh  wrote:                
How,much  this  type  of  self  mixed  foods  will  cause  for  our  food  i  have  been  feeding  oscars,arrowana,and  fh  with  raw  heart  pieces,for  more  than  
 three  years.  in  fh  there  was  no  significant  change.i  saw  one  article  in  FAQ
 about  mixed  beef  heart.how  about  this  mix  should  be  prepared  is  there
   any  special  methods  adopted.                

 
 Rajesh,
 
 I  presume,  you  are  asking  how  much  it  will  cost?  Mix  foods  depend  on  what  u  can  source  locally.  Beefheart  being  the  cheapest  is  commonly  used  as  the  main  ingredient.  U  can  add  shrimp,  lettuce,  pudina,  liver,  etc.  and  make  your  own  mix.  Guys  who  breed  discus  have  their  individual  recipes.  It  may  vary  in  terms  of  the  percentage  of  the  ingredients,  the  ingredients  and  also  the  medication  added.
 
 Since  u  have  been  feeding  them  raw  heart  pieces,  the  fishes  will  love  having  some  mixed  stuff.  However,  take  care  that  u  keep  the  mix  in  a  freezer  and  dont  use  a  mix  for  more  than  a  week.
 
 If  u  can  give  an  idea  of  what  u  can  source  locally  then  maybe  we  can  come  with  a  recipe.  
 
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I  would  like  to  know  if  this  receipe(Beef  Heart  Mix)  is  only  for  discus  or  if  it  can  be  fed  as  staple  food  to  any  speices  (  omnivore/carnivore  fish)?                

 BHM  is  an  cheap  &  excellent  food  for  most  of  the  cichlids,  arowanas  and  other  carnivores.    I  feed  it  to  almost  all  the  fishes  from  convicts  to  discus.
 
 
                                                 
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 Also,  whats  the  difference  between    Beef  Heart  and  Goat  heart  when  it  comes  to  nutritional  value,  and  their  effect  on  fish  growth  and  health?
 Puneit                

 Dont  think  there's  much  difference  between  BH  and  GH  but  BH  is  easy  to  de-vein  and  to  remove  fat.
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Beefheart  being  the  cheapest  is  commonly  used  as  the  main  ingredient.  U  can  add  shrimp,  lettuce,  pudina,  liver,  etc.  and  make  your  own  mix.                  

 
 Doubt!!!  Should  liver  be  included  in  the  above  list,  although  it  is  high  in  Cholesterol?    Confused  
 
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 Hi  Jenny,
 Liver  disintegrates  in  water  and  can  foul  it  fast  and  hence  not  a  good  ingredient.
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 Fine,  Beta!
 
 I  thought  it  was  too  high  in  cholesterol.    Smile  
 
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 Hey  Jenny,
 The  liver  will  promote  very  fast  growth  in  the  fish  but  the  water  quality  is  bad  in  a  very  short  while!
 
 I  never  use  the  liver  in  my  BH  mix.
 
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 I  made  a  Goat  heart  mix.  One  heart+2-3  spinach  leaves+vit  B  complex  capsule.  Chopped  it,  as  while  grating  it  I  feared  loosing  my  skin  in  the  grater.I  didn't  want  the  fish  have  the  tatse  of  human  flesh.
   Anyways,  it  was  minced  and  mixed  very  well.  Feed  it  to  all  fish  once  a  day.  Keep  it  freezed  and  thaw  and  again  chop  before  feeding
 Gourami,  sword  tails  and  Betta  don't  seem  to  like  it.  Others  eat  well.
 But  then  the  tanks  are  giving  out  a  funny  kind  of  a  smell.  Its  not  H2S.  Its  the  smell,  which  I  remember,  comes  from  the  gas  which  is  filled  in  balloons  to  make  them  rise.  I  am  talking  of  balloons  which  are  sold  by  hawkers.
 I  did  an  immediate  water  change.(25%)  in  all  setups.  Smell  vanished  after  WC.
 Is  this  smell  normal?  What  possible  other  solutions  are  other  than  WC.
 Plz  help
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I  made  a  Goat  heart  mix.  One  heart+2-3  spinach  leaves+vit  B  complex  capsule.                  

 
 I  can't  take  pills  for  fear  of  bitterness  (unless  it  is  followed  by  chocolate)  :wink:  How,  can  your  fish  tolerate  the  B  Complex  capsule,  I  wonder!!!  Shocked  
 
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 Feed  Heart  Mixes  only  if  you  do  regular  waterchanges  and  feed  sparingly.
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Feed  Heart  Mixes  only  if  you  do  regular  waterchanges  and  feed  sparingly.                

 
 Beta  is  right.  Make  sure  your  filtration  is  well  established,  large  tank  with  less  fish.
 
 Fishes  liking  heart  mix  do  not  know  the  level  of  consumption,  they  eat  like  pigs.  The  wate  excreted  is  more  and  the  excreta  is  direct  ammonia  factories.  If  the  tank  is  heavily  populated  there  will  be  certain  mishaps.
 
 Fishes  in  the  wild  are  not  used  to  such  animal  protein,  the  digestive  sysem  is  not  suited  for  large  volume  of  this  type  of  food.  The  results  of  BH  or  mixes  will  be  great,  but  be  aware  of  the  perils  involved.
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 I  had  an  idea  that  it  should  be  fed  less,  so  I  do  feed  little.  Though  my  heart  says,  hey  what  will  become  of  the  fish  from  such  less  food,  my  mind  says...NO  MORE.
 In  the  last  couple  of  weeks  I  have  redistributed  the  population  to  new  tanks.  So,  now,  population  density  is  less.
 
 Dolphy,  If  someone  mixes  bitter  vit  B  in  chocolate,  and  gives  you.  Won't  you  eat  it?  I  m  sure  yes.
 
 If  I  do  WC  2  twice  a  week,  should  that  be  ok
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