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PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 10:27 pm Post subject: Re: Best Light option for 1.5 feet cube Reply with quote

 Shameek,
 You  seem  to  be  agreeing  with  everyone  here.
 If  this  continues,  you  will  keeping  only  toying  with  ideas.
 Throughout  this  thread,  people  have  suggested  options  of  PLL  and  MH  alternatively  and  you  seem  to  have  agreed  to  each  one  of  them.
 Since  it  is  your  tank,  it  is  your  decision  and  it  should  be  based  upon  the  suggestions  here.
 Please  dont  rely  completely  on  the  suggestions  here  .  You  may  have  to  do  some  reading  on  your  own  and  arrive  at  a  decision  and  get  it  asserted  here.
 
 MH  is  considered  to  be  expensive  in  long  run  (  I  mean  the  running  cost  )  and  is  generally  required  when  the  tank  depth  is  more  and  where  flouroscent  light  cannot  penetrate  well.
 In  your  case,  there  is  no  real  need.
 Also  as  suggested  by  people,  MH  needs  a  good  Co2  concentration  and  that  DIY  co2  wont  be  able  to  do  justice.
 Please  do  not  ask  if  you  can  go  with  2  bottles  of  co2  as  against  one  for  an  MH.Since   DIY  co2  doesnt  produce  a  constant  supply  it  is  difficult  to  measure  and  hence  there  couldnt  be  a  definite  answer  for  that.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 10:40 pm Post subject: Re: Best Light option for 1.5 feet cube Reply with quote

 Rohan  bhai  i  have  got  many  good  suggestions  here.But  in  the  practical  field  i  have  to  do  some  experiments  as  i  am  new  in  the  planted  field.from  the  mistakes  i  have  to  learn.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 8:50 am Post subject: Re: Best Light option for 1.5 feet cube Reply with quote

 Shameek   You  can't  do  all  the  things  as  experiment  here  that  will  take  more  time...  plan  well  do  well   Thumb Up
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 12:27 pm Post subject: Re: Best Light option for 1.5 feet cube Reply with quote

 I  will  suggest  you  to  do  the  experiments,  it  will  make  your  richer  in  experience  and  I  still  believe  that  what  one  learns  by  trial  and  error  is  the  most  dependable  knowledge.  
 
 Any  way  I  would  ask  you  to  go  for  1,  36  watt  of  CFL  light  with  a  DIY  co2  to  begin  with.  You  have  to  change  10-15%  of  water  every  day  if  you  want  to  see  your  plants  in  top  health.  Initially,  keep  the  photo  period  for  4  hrs  daily  for  15  days,  later,  increase  it  to  6  hrs  for  another  15  days.  eventually  when  you  reach  8  hrs  of  photo  period  by  1  month  to  45  days,  you  tank  will  be  set  and  most  probably  you  will  see  little  algae  if  you  follow  these  instructions.
 
 You  can  start  dosing  small  amount  of  PMDD  and  Macro  nutrients  from  the  15th  day  safely,  but  in  very  small  quantities.
 
 Hope,  that  you  will  have  a  very  nice  planted  tank.  I  appreciate  your  thirst  for  knowledge.
 
 Seniors,  pls  let  him  know,  if  I  have  faulted  in  my  advice,  any  where.
 
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 12:46 pm Post subject: Re: Best Light option for 1.5 feet cube Reply with quote

                                                   
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@Debarghya
 then  what  should  i  do?reduce  the  wattage  of  light?                

 
 Never  ever  afraid  about  algae.  Getting  Algae  is  the  best  way  to  learn  killing  algae.  Keep  the  MH  1  feet  above  of  the  tank  and  keep  heavy  plant  load  in  the  tank.  
 
 
                                                 
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 @Tirtha...sorry  to  hear  you  lost  your  rotalas   Sad  but  what  happened?
                 

 
 Starting  of  the  Summer  just  for  an  week,  tank  temparature  shoot  up  to  >30  degree  and  I  didn't  have  DC  fans  ready  by  that  time.  Thatz  it...  I  lost  all  the  Rotalas  and  Blyxa  instantly.  Right  after  that  Delhi  starts  pouring  and  now  the  tank  is  stable  under  28  degree.  Mad
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 12:55 pm Post subject: Re: Best Light option for 1.5 feet cube Reply with quote

                                                   
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I  will  suggest  you  to  do  the  experiments,  it  will  make  your  richer  in  experience  and  I  still  believe  that  what  one  learns  by  trial  and  error  is  the  most  dependable  knowledge.                  

 
 100%  agree  with  Dev  and  Rohan.  It's  your  tank  and  your  plan.  You  have  to  make  the  final  decision.  But  don't  bother  to  think  about  failure.  Failure  is  the  only  thing  that  can  make  you  rich  with  experience.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 1:10 pm Post subject: Re: Best Light option for 1.5 feet cube Reply with quote

 @Tirtha  da
 i  want  algae  to  come  in  my  tank...because  it  creates  much  problem,and  if  it  happens  i  will  learn  how  to  combat  with  them
   Very Happy  
 
 thanks  everybody  for  your  suggestions  Smile
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 3:32 pm Post subject: Re: Best Light option for 1.5 feet cube Reply with quote

 Shameek  post  only  the  results  of  your  experiments  in  getting  rid  of  algae  here.
 
 Now  that  you  want  algae,  don't  ask  for  help  to  get  rid  of  it!  We  are  all  looking  at  ways  to  avoid  algae.
 
 Be  a  true  blue  researcher  and  give  us  documented  conclusions!  Always  have  a  control  tank  and  a  couple  of  more  tanks  with  placebo  for  each  variable  that  you  use  to  induce  algae.  Look  up  similar  studies  and  research  papers,  find  out  what   it  takes,  talk  to  a  lot  of  experts.  
 
 Glad  you  wanted  this!  Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 3:49 pm Post subject: Re: Best Light option for 1.5 feet cube Reply with quote

 @  Madan  sir
 i  know  the  algae  will  obviously  grow  in  my  tank,  and  i  also  want  to  avoid  them.  
 surely  i  will  post  the  results.
 i  will  start  the  tank  after  my  exam  Smile
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 4:01 pm Post subject: Re: Best Light option for 1.5 feet cube Reply with quote

 Shameek,
 In  my  case,  Algae  did  not  give  me  much  chance  to  learn  from  mistake.  In  my  1st  2x1.5x.15  tank,  I  had  green  water  after  2  months  and  I  read  a  lot  on  how  to  avoid  it.  Before  I  could  do  anything  it  was  gone  completely.  I  could  not  fiure  out  why  it  came  and  what  caused  it  to  go  away  !!!
 
 Last  year,  in  1.5x1x1.5  tank,  I  had  severe  hair  algae  after  3  months  in  decembar  07.  It  became  so  thick,  even  fishes  were  getting  trapped  into  it.  This  time  again  I  went  through  lot  of  forum  to  come  up  with  some  idea.  But  again  in  Feb  2008  it  went  away  completely.  I  did  not  change  anything  in  between  other  than  cleaning  hair  algae  with  toothbrush  !!!
 
 So  keep  your  figure  crossed  in  case  of  algae!!  Definately  you  will  get  it,  keep  us  updated  on  your  findings  !
 
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 4:48 pm Post subject: Re: Best Light option for 1.5 feet cube Reply with quote

 Shameek,
 
 No  one  wants  algae,  but  every  one  has  it  in  their  tanks  in  different  quantity.
 I  am  sure  that  you  are  no  exception,  so  do  not  be  overwhelmingly  humble  and  say  something  that  you  do  not  mean.
 
 I  have  been  trying  to  find  out  a  way  to  get  rid  of  algae  just  like  all  of  us  and  my  present  and  past  experience  do  almost  nothing  to  help  my  cause.  Hence,  I  would  suggest  that  you  try  to  avoid  it  in  stead  of  inviting  it  to  cure  it.
 
 I  believe  that,  as  this  is  your  first  attempt  to  a  planted  setup,  keep  things  on  a  lower  side.  Get  36  watts  PLL  or  CFL  and  follow  my  instructions  in  the  above  thread.  Let  us  know  the  developments.
 
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 Hi  Shameek,
 
 Don't  choose  CFL.  It  generates  heat  a  lot.
 PLL  will  be  the  best  bet  for  you  as  of  now!
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 Just  a  small  question.  How  much  of  minimum  distance  is  necessary  between  tank  and  36  watt  PLL  to  avoid  heating  water.
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 3-4  inch  is  good  enough!  IMO.
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