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Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 6:02 pm Post subject: Re: My New Planted Tank - 4 Ft - WIP
Correct me if i have understood it wrong.
You have fiiled up tha tank with water without any substrate, are you going to add the substrate now, while the tanks is half full?
Anyway, for a planted tank of this size eheim is best bet, multiple power heads will create turbulance in the tank.
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Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 6:11 pm Post subject: Re: My New Planted Tank - 4 Ft - WIP
Hi Sandeep,
No substrate at this stage. Do a cleaning of tank walls and remove and clean the tank once again. Washing the substrate and add them. Then half filled with water for planting. May be all these would happen in next two weeks, not immediately.
And on the filtration, I heard more positive comments and suggestions for EHEIM, so will get it during a week after plants. Until that let me have a dual cartridge filter setup (this will be there for ever along with EHEIM). I think along with this, I may go for a power head. Since am going to have DIY CO2 setup (based on an article I found), am not going to add too much of Power heads as they obviously create lack of CO2 in water.
Thanks for the tips and please correct if this setup has any flaws in it.
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Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 7:06 pm Post subject: Re: My New Planted Tank - 4 Ft - WIP
Sounds OK.
BTW your heading says it is going to be a planted tank, but you have given details of everything, tank, substrate, fishes, filter, but no plants??
And by now, I replaced the dirty water and cleaned the tank last evening. Filled with water. I saw water been more clear this morning. I set filter to run over the night, just boyu 1800 model (1100 ltr/hr). Not sure who helped, but I love to see the water more clear. Will post some pictures of empty tank and keep an album ready for you all.
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Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 3:55 pm Post subject: Re: My New Planted Tank - 4 Ft - WIP
What lighting are you going in for, some of these plants are very high light plants or they they will lose there colouration.
I was just wondering as you do not have a substrate now, why are you putting so much labour in filling the tank and emptying it.???
My room temperature is about 28-30 deg. The reason for changing the water on empty tank is that I had water problems in last couple of months and what I filled early was so dense and dirty and that settled down at day 6-7. So cleaned the tank and refilled to ensure the water not going to affect the plants. No more changes as of now, tomorrow I might get the substrate at GEM or on saturday will make it for sure.
My room temperature is about 28-30 deg. The reason for changing the water on empty tank is that I had water problems in last couple of months and what I filled early was so dense and dirty and that settled down at day 6-7. So cleaned the tank and refilled to ensure the water not going to affect the plants. No more changes as of now, tomorrow I might get the substrate at GEM or on saturday will make it for sure.
Well people, he just has too much time with him, thats the reason behind all the water change, and here is one info he left out - he wants a DIY CO2 setup ready too-for an empty tank
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Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 3:24 pm Post subject: Re: My New Planted Tank - 4 Ft - WIP
Well Vignesh, its all until I get the gravel and plants. Unlucky me, the lfs keeps asking me to wait for gravel or on a weekday I will have to go around to get it after office hours. So, attempted to make the time spent here
The reason for changing the water on empty tank is that I had water problems in last couple of months and what I filled early was so dense and dirty and that settled down at day 6-7.
Has this water problem been sorted out, a new tank without any fishes should not have dirty water, please sort out your water problems before settting up the tank.
If your source water is dirty, use filtered water but not RO water.
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Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 6:28 pm Post subject: Re: My New Planted Tank - 4 Ft - WIP
Yes Sandeep,
I did ensure them now. First time I used it directly from tap and this was found dirty. I now this time when I filled and ran with filter, I do see the water being clean and no much thing settled at bottom.
I think I need to store prior using it to avoid this minimum sediment/dust. I have two barrels of 200-300 litters each. So this would help. And by now you could have understood the labor I spent in cleaning and filling the empty tank Buying a fish and plant may not disturb much, but them dying of course bugs a lot.
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Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 12:29 pm Post subject: Re: My New Planted Tank - 4 Ft - WIP
Hello All,
Finally I setup the tank, having Vignesh helping me. Could not make all those plants that I listed, so bought what was available at Kolathur. And more over I did not use laterite, instead I bought plant base from Kolathur and used it. I don't have its spec handy to post it now. Will post it tomorrow. Please find the pictures of the tank at my picassa album. Registered for the gallery in IAH, once I get it will post here itself.
Expecting a good result with plant base. Now it also has a DYI CO2 system.
It was setup initially, will move to pressurized CO2 setup based on its results and how wealthy my wallet will be
Lights are on for 2 x 3hrs for now. Please comment on how much longer I need to keep the lights on. The light specs are in this thread itself.
Water temperature in 88 deg F / 30 deg C now. I kept the window near the tank open and keeping the ceiling fan running at normal speed. (Don't know any other way to cool the tank immediately).
All these pictures are of Sunday (6 Jul 0. Now the water is settling down. Planning to add the live stock when its going to be clean. May be this weekend or early next week. I also have a Boyu 1800 model filter (1100 ltr/hr) for this tank. Decision for a canister/EHEIM will be later based on your suggestions after looking at the status of the tank. (I will update the pictures album)
Thanks for all of those who helped with your comments and suggestions!! And for Vignesh and Prem, a special big thanks
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Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 12:57 pm Post subject: Re: My New Planted Tank - 4 Ft - WIP
Thank you Anandaqu
I searched and found a stone from Elliots beach this morning, will use it to place the wood. This wood I bought from Aquastar. Vignesh has another good piece of it waiting for him to set it on his tank and may be he would open it for our eyes...
I would need to order more of mint and e.tenellus, rotall roudifoolia and crypt parva to plant around the wood. I think this would be good to plant around the wood. I don't wanted to have moss as am not that much aqua-educated
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Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 2:53 pm Post subject: Re: My New Planted Tank - 4 Ft - WIP
Hello Folks,
About to update on the soil base that I used instead of laterite or peat. I used Ocean Free's product called Absolute Plant Base. So far I heard no one used, so am in trial with it now. Just thought of putting something here about the plant base for you to write up how you would feel on this base.
Am getting you what I found on product pamphlet.
This product contains long term emission of nutrients, ammonic salt, phosphate, potassium and trace elements like iron, copper, zinc, iodine etc. Also, with the added special bacteria in this product, it prevents the base area from algae growth or formation of sludge. It will help long term water purification effect. This product also contains combining special humic acid that will leave the plant base sludge and algae to the minimum.
Now its your time to post your comments on this. With this, will I need to take any measures, am at week 1 of my planted tank.
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. Now the water is settling down. Planning to add the live stock when its going to be clean. May be this weekend or early next week. I also have a Boyu 1800 model filter (1100 ltr/hr) for this tank. Decision for a canister/EHEIM will be later based on your suggestions after looking at the status of the tank. (I will update the pictures album)
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