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PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 4:39 pm Post subject: Re: Pressurized Co2 system on a budget Reply with quote

 Hi,
 
 Informative,  illustrative  &  apt.
 
 Another  scorcher  of  a  thread  from  Trevor  Sir.
 
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 4:44 pm Post subject: Re: Pressurized Co2 system on a budget Reply with quote

                                                   
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@Trevor  Sir.....  Many  many  thanks  for  the  post.  It's  really  helpfull.  Today  only  I  received  my  CO2  accesorries.   Cheering  
 
 I  have  a  small  question  here.  I  was  planning  to  use  White  Silicon  Tubing  for  the  connection  instead  of  P.U  hose.  Will  it  be  advisable  and  safe  to  use  only  sillicon  tubing  throughout  the  system?                

 
 Congrats  Tirtha.
 
 Go  for  P.U.  Its  better  as  silicon  can  loose  some  Co2  through  it...also  it  is  more  breakable  than  P.U.  which  is  meant  for  the  job.  I  use  P.U.  its  easy  to  find  and  not  at  all  expensive.
 
 Hope  this  helps.
 
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 4:45 pm Post subject: Re: Pressurized Co2 system on a budget Reply with quote

 HI,
 
 I  have  got  the  same  Regulator,  needle  valve   &  system,  but  im  looking  for  some  attachment  that  i  can  connect  the  regulator  to  a  system  to  a  Soda  maker  Cylinder,(  Pin  valve  type),  is  it  possible  that  u  can  Remove  the  pin  valve  of  the  cylinder  &  attach  a  valve  
 (attached  image  below)
 
 do  let  me  know  if  the  same  is  possible)  
 Thanks  N  regardsginish
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 4:46 pm Post subject: Re: Pressurized Co2 system on a budget Reply with quote

 @  Trevor,   Bow   Hug   Peck     Clapping   Thumb Up
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 5:12 pm Post subject: Re: Pressurized Co2 system on a budget Reply with quote

 Some  simple  and  helpful  tips.
 That  will  give  you  years  of  good  service.  
 
 When  buying  your  Co2  regulator  see  that  you  get  the  nylon  washer.  See  attached  pic.
 
 When  fixing  your  Co2  regulator  to  the  pressurized  Co2  cylinder  always  hand  turn  the  coupling  in  the  clockwise  direction.  By  hand  turn  I  mean  use  your  fingers  till  you  can  turn  no  more.  After  that  that  use  a  spanner  and  tighten  well.
 If  you  use  a  spanner  for  the  first  turns  by  chance  an  initial  wrong  seat  could  damage  the  brass  threads  on  the  coupling  of  the  regulator  or  the  threads  on  the  cylinder  or  both.
 
 Strap  or  fasten  and  secure  your  cylinder  upright.  A  fall  could  damage  the  softest  part  -  the  neck  which  is  made  of  brass.  It  could  be  very  unpleasant  if  the  neck  breaks.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 5:59 pm Post subject: Re: Pressurized Co2 system on a budget Reply with quote

 Thritha
 
 It  is  not  recommend,  you  should  be  able  to  find  the  PU  tube  quite  easily.
 
 I  presume  the  issue  could  be  for  the  connection  with  the  diffuser/reactor  -  what  need  to  be  done  is  use  the  pu  tube  from  the  cylinder  to  the  closest  to  the  tank  till  where  you  can  use  and  from  there  use  the  regular  two  way  connector  which  will  allow  to  connect  the  pu  tube  with  the  silicon  aquarium  tubing  (the  inner  diamater  is  the  same)  which  can  be  then  used  inside  the  aquarium.
 
 Hope  this  helps.
 
 Tervor:  just  one  question,  i  did  configure  a  similar  setup  under  the  similar  cost,  but  the  only  difference  I  did  in  the  setup  is  i  attached  the  needle  valve  directly  to  the  regulator  unlike  where  you  have  distanced  both  by  approx  4-6  inches.  Any  issues  with  the  way  i  did.
 
 http://indianaquariumhobbyist.com/community/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=9808&start=30
 
 Thank  you
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 6:05 pm Post subject: Re: Pressurized Co2 system on a budget Reply with quote

                                                   
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@Trevor  Sir.....  Many  many  thanks  for  the  post.  It's  really  helpfull.  Today  only  I  received  my  CO2  accesorries.   Cheering  
 
 I  have  a  small  question  here.  I  was  planning  to  use  White  Silicon  Tubing  for  the  connection  instead  of  P.U  hose.  Will  it  be  advisable  and  safe  to  use  only  sillicon  tubing  throughout  the  system?                

 
 Never  Never  use  a  silicon  tube  instead  of  a  polyurethane  tube.  A  silicon  tube  is  used  for  air  pumps  which  have  very  little  pressure.  After  all  its  only  a  rubber  diaphragm  which  beats  mechanically.
 
 There  is  a  good  chance  of  the  silicon  tube  bursting.
 
 Where  in  the  delivery  system  can  you  use  the  silicon  tube?  Use  the  silicon  tube  after  the  needle  valve  if  you  have  to.  The  needle  valve  drops  the  pressure  and  lets  a  minute  quantity  out  -  only  one  bubble  per  second  or  so.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 6:06 pm Post subject: Re: Pressurized Co2 system on a budget Reply with quote

 Hey  Trevor,
 
 Good  post  and  thanks  for  the  information.
 
 Appreciate  your  TIME  and  efforts  toward  all  of  us  in  IAH.
 
 regards
 
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 6:14 pm Post subject: Re: Pressurized Co2 system on a budget Reply with quote

 Go  P.U.  all  the  way............
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 6:16 pm Post subject: Re: Pressurized Co2 system on a budget Reply with quote

 I  did  not  get  the  nylon  washer  with  the  regulator,  so  can  i  use  a  rubber  cutting  from  a  tyre  tube?  Sad
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 6:48 pm Post subject: Re: Pressurized Co2 system on a budget Reply with quote

 Yes,  Go  P.U  all  the  way.  Thumb Up  
 The  P.U.  hose  is  stiff  and  can  take  a  take  a  pressure  of  10  kgs/cm2  .  Imported  brands  even  more.
 What  you  should  release  from  your  Co2  regulator  is  2kg/cm2.  A   safety  factor  of  five.
 
 Use  a  piece  of  silicon  tube  at  the  end  since  it  is  more  flexible  when  attaching  glass  items  like  diffuser  etc  since  it  could  break  if  forced.  Even  a  inch  long  piece  of  silicon  air  tube  will  do.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 6:53 pm Post subject: Re: Pressurized Co2 system on a budget Reply with quote

 Lovely  and  very  informative  post  Trevor.  Thumb Up  
 
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HI,
 
 I  have  got  the  same  Regulator,  needle  valve   &  system,  but  im  looking  for  some  attachment  that  i  can  connect  the  regulator  to  a  system  to  a  Soda  maker  Cylinder,(  Pin  valve  type),  is  it  possible  that  u  can  Remove  the  pin  valve  of  the  cylinder  &  attach  a  valve  
 (attached  image  below)
 
 do  let  me  know  if  the  same  is  possible)  
 Thanks  N  regardsginish                

 
 Drop  your  idea  of  a  soda  maker.  Many  have  tried  and  found  it  not  worth  the  effort.  Get  a  decent  sized  cylinder.  Smile
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 Thanks  trevor...  Thumb Up   will  be  going  shopping  as  soon  as  i  can  scrounge  up  the  cash  for  my  hobby,  under  self  imposed  moratorium  and  cap  on  monthly  budget,  else  i  would  have  filled  my  house  with  fish  tanks...
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Thanks  trevor...  Thumb Up   will  be  going  shopping  as  soon  as  i  can  scrounge  up  the  cash  for  my  hobby,  under  self  imposed  moratorium  and  cap  on  monthly  budget,  else  i  would  have  filled  my  house  with  fish  tanks...                

 
 We  appreciate  your  control  buddy...more  so  when  I  have  lost  all  hopes  of  control,  myself...I,  now  a  days,  am  just  flowing  with  the  flow  and  it  is  taking  me  places..   ROFL
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