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well folks i am not able to find fertilon 13. :cry:nor fe edta or chelated iron.i luckily got partially chelated iron with 19% iron.just want to clear a doubt can i use it for deficiency of iron as my plants are showing the syntoms of iron deficiency.
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| Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 8:41 pm Post subject: Re: Difference between chelated iron and partially chelated |
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| Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 11:50 pm Post subject: Re: Difference between chelated iron and partially chelated |
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not knowing what is the exact alternative you're using it is hard to tell if it is going to work.
In lieu of agro-grade chelated iron, I have used Ferrus bis-glycinate (in form of Ferronine tablets -- usually prescribed in pregnancy) manufactured by Remidex Pharma in India using "original active ferrus bis-glycinate chelate imported from albion, usa" as the packaging claims.
It perfectly solved my iron deficinecy problems but I cannot guarantee it will work for you, just telling you what I did. |
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| Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 11:56 pm Post subject: Re: Difference between chelated iron and partially chelated |
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not knowing what is the exact alternative you're using it is hard to tell if it is going to work.
In lieu of agro-grade chelated iron, I have used Ferrus bis-glycinate (in form of Ferronine tablets -- usually prescribed in pregnancy) manufactured by Remidex Pharma in India using "original active ferrus bis-glycinate chelate imported from albion, usa" as the packaging claims.
It perfectly solved my iron deficinecy problems but I cannot guarantee it will work for you, just telling you what I did.
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well the product which i got today is used for iron deficiency in crops.what are the dosings of that tablet?please throw some light on it.. |
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ArnabPDas
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| Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2008 12:01 am Post subject: Re: Difference between chelated iron and partially chelated |
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well the product which i got today is used for iron deficiency in crops.what are the dosings of that tablet?please throw some light on it..
That's the sad part -- I haven't needed to use it often enough to determine dosing. I have needed to use 2 60mg tablets in my 450L tank -- 1 crushed and sprinkled 3 weeks ago and another last week. My plants are still doing fine. Sagittaria stopped throwing new yellowish leaves and H Difformis started growing vibrant green leaves again. I'll again dose only when I start to see signs of deficiency. I'll update this thread when that happens. |
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| Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2008 1:39 am Post subject: Re: Difference between chelated iron and partially chelated |
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| abhi_123 wrote (View Post):
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hiii
well folks i am not able to find fertilon 13. :cry:nor fe edta or chelated iron.i luckily got partially chelated iron with 19% iron.just want to clear a doubt can i use it for deficiency of iron as my plants are showing the syntoms of iron deficiency.
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Holy smoke.... what kind of plants do you have in your tank buddy that you need special Iron suppliment??? I have tank full of fast growers and I never dosed anything except Microsol-B for Iron and traces. Do not jump arround, you will be blessed with lots and lots of algae for sure. Watch if you are dosing Microsol B sufficiently. |
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| Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2008 10:33 am Post subject: Re: Difference between chelated iron and partially chelated |
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was just curious to know if the Tablets used by Arnab can be used for bottom feeders like the Amazon? by simply pushing these in the gravel...  |
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| Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2008 12:49 pm Post subject: Re: Difference between chelated iron and partially chelated |
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was just curious to know if the Tablets used by Arnab can be used for bottom feeders like the Amazon? by simply pushing these in the gravel...
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Not sure if that might work -- I do know med-grade chelated iron is "designed" for quick/better absorption in the human body (hopefully for plants too) but it is not suitable for long term availability in tank water -- it will degrade rather quickly.
So I think for long-term slow release to root feeders like Echinodorus, fert balls enriched with iron or laterite balls would be more effective. But this might work as well -- maybe worth a try?
Note: Another alternative is Livogen tabs which have active ingradients "Ferrous fumarate + folic acid + zinc sulfate". Ferrous Fumarate is known to work very well for plants, but the zinc is unnecessary and depending on your other dosings, may be potentially undesirable (not so much problem with large weekly water changes though).
I have long been searching for a tab which contains Ferrous Gluconate (this is the same chelate used in SeaChem Flourish Iron) -- but no luck yet  |
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| Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2008 5:58 pm Post subject: Re: Difference between chelated iron and partially chelated |
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| abhi_123 wrote (View Post):
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hiii
well folks i am not able to find fertilon 13. :cry:nor fe edta or chelated iron.i luckily got partially chelated iron with 19% iron.just want to clear a doubt can i use it for deficiency of iron as my plants are showing the syntoms of iron deficiency.
please reply...
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Holy smoke.... what kind of plants do you have in your tank buddy that you need special Iron suppliment??? I have tank full of fast growers and I never dosed anything except Microsol-B for Iron and traces. Do not jump arround, you will be blessed with lots and lots of algae for sure. Watch if you are dosing Microsol B sufficiently.
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well i have following plants
aponogeton crispus
aponogeton ulvaceous
hygrophilia polysperma
hygrophilia variegated
hygrophilia difformis
limnophilia aromatica
ludwigia repens
ludwigia narrow leaf
glassostigma
riccia
rotala nanjenshen
star grass
and other slow growing plants.but the problem is that i am not using laterite as a base substrate and my polysperma are showing signs of iron deficiency that's why thinking of dosing iron seperately.i am dosing 3 full caps of coke bottle of microsol daily after lights off. |
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| Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2008 10:32 pm Post subject: Re: Difference between chelated iron and partially chelated |
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what sort of substrate have you used ? is it that you have just got sand of some sort and have planted in it directly ?
i so i suggest you re do the tanks with some iron rich bottom topped with shell free sand |
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| Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 12:18 am Post subject: Re: Difference between chelated iron and partially chelated |
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| well i am using alluvial soil mixed with 2 kg of soilrite. |
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