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PostPosted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 7:26 pm Post subject: An Intresting discussion on use of Power Sand with Aqua Soil Reply with quote

 An  Intresting  discussion  on  use  of  Power  Sand  together  with  Aqua  Soil?  Why?  Why  not  ....
 
 Read  more  at  :-
 
 1.  http://www.aquascapingworld.com/forum/substrate/726-do-you-use-power-sand-together-aqua-soil.html
 
 2.  http://www.barrreport.com/co2-aquatic-plant-fertilization/4105-power-sand.html?highlight=naman
 
 
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 7:31 pm Post subject: Re: An Intresting discussion on use of Power Sand with Aqua Reply with quote

 Oi....  what  a  coincidence.  Yesterday  only,  I  was  going  through  these  2  links.
 
 Really  interesting  and  informative.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 7:46 pm Post subject: Re: An Intresting discussion on use of Power Sand with Aqua Reply with quote

 double  coincidence...i  too  was  looking  at  the  same  topic  yesterday.  nice  use  of  plastic  mesh  to  separate  the  two  soils.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 7:50 pm Post subject: Re: An Intresting discussion on use of Power Sand with Aqua Reply with quote

 Chuckle   I  was  going  through  these  today  ......  Felt  i  was  reading  a  Botany  Textbook  .....  some  of  those  things  flew  right  over  my  head.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 9:50 pm Post subject: Re: An Intresting discussion on use of Power Sand with Aqua Reply with quote

 I  use  Devanahalli  Magic.  I  think  I  have  added  to  it  whatever  a  substrate  needs  to  grow  plants.
 Almost  free  of  cost  thanks  to  the  IAH  network  in  Bangalore.
 
 I  don't  worry  about  NH3  or  NO3  getting  into  the  water.  
 For  folks  who  cannot  DIY  a  substrate  or  are  afraid  of  failure  or  don't  have  the  patience,  well  then  you  have  ADA  Aquasoil.
 I  have  grown  plants  with  commercial  substrates,  locally  available  soil  substrates,  no  substrate,  coir  mat  as  substrate,  plants  will  grow  with  all  of  them.
 We  grow  and  feed  a  billion  people  in  this  land  of  ours,  surely  we  can  grow  a  few  weeds  with  the  same  thingy!
   Chuckle  
 
 BTW  I  have  used  ADA  Aquasoil  in  3  tanks  for  over  a  year  too!
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 10:13 pm Post subject: Re: An Intresting discussion on use of Power Sand with Aqua Reply with quote

 dear  madan,
 
 can  you  please  tell  me  what  is  the  best  DIY  substrate  you  have  used  till  date  ?
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 1:58 am Post subject: Re: An Intresting discussion on use of Power Sand with Aqua Reply with quote

 Peat.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 8:10 am Post subject: Re: An Intresting discussion on use of Power Sand with Aqua Reply with quote

 Freshly  dug  Laterite  collected  from  some  remote  area  while  on  a  drive,  mixed  about  2  liters  of  this  laterite  with  a  little  -  2-3  handfull  -  of  sphagnum  peat  moss.
 Mixed  both  with  shell  free  river  gravel.  This  made  the  bottom  2  cm.
 Above  this  4  inches  of  shell  free  river  gravel.
 
 This  gave  me  my  best  tank  running  for  5  years,  which  I  dismantled  in  March  this  year.
 This  tank  too  got  CO2  and  water  column  dosing  as  I  do  normally  for  all  tanks.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 9:30 am Post subject: Re: An Intresting discussion on use of Power Sand with Aqua Reply with quote

 I  have  seen  demanding,  stemmed  plans  like  Myriophyllum  thriving  in  sluggy/clay  substrate  and  on  fine/corse  sand  in  the  wild.   They  just  adapt  and  do  with  what  they  get  and  i  guess  it  is  so  in  aquariums.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 10:01 am Post subject: Re: An Intresting discussion on use of Power Sand with Aqua Reply with quote

 They  get  a  lot  in  the  wild  that's  why  they  thrive.  Decaying  humic  substances  in  the  substrate  helps  a  lot.  The  water  column  too  might  be  bringing  in  what  they  need.
 Give  them  the  same  in  the  aquarium  and  they'll  thrive  here  also.
 We  can  never  match  the  light  levels  plants  get  in  nature,  so  we  need  to  adjust  everything  else  to  our  light  levels.
 One  study  by  Tropica  shows  plant  biomass  increasing  more  with  only  CO2  addition,  than  with  only  increase  in  light.
 With  high  light  tanks,  keep  your  CO2  high,  and  nutrient  levels  up,  plants  will  grow,  algae  will  subside.
 
 In  low  tech  tanks  with  low  light  and  no  CO2,  provide  a  carbon  source  in  the  substrate,  provide  nutrients  through  extra  fish  food,  plants  will  grow.  That's  the  Diana  Walstad  method.
 
 Add  small  quantities  of  nutrients  once  in  a  while,  you  don't  need  to  add  extra  fish  food.  That's  the  modernisation  of  Diana  Walstad  method.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 10:33 am Post subject: Re: An Intresting discussion on use of Power Sand with Aqua Reply with quote

 thank  you  sir  for  sharing  ...............  actually  i  am  setting  up  2  planted  tanks.  1  -  30inx20inx24in.   which  i  plan  with  ADA.
 
 and  a  60inx20inx24in  i  would  like  for  traditional  method  as  the  ada  stuff  will  snatch  my  bread  and  butter.
 
 i  will  follow  the  Laterite  stuff.  but  do  i  need  to  wash  the  soil  in  some  way  before  i  put  it  in  the  aquarium  cos;  i  think  i  will  need  to  buy  it  from  some  source.  i  have  not  seen  ,it  in  near  Kolkata.
 
 and  can  somebody  please  tell  me  where  do  i  get  sphagnum  peat  moss  in  kolkata  ???
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 12:22 pm Post subject: Re: An Intresting discussion on use of Power Sand with Aqua Reply with quote

 Laterite  soil  is  mud,  you  cannot  wash  mud.
 
 If  it  has  too  many  organics,  sieve  it,  that's  about  all  you  can  do  and  it  is  not  necessary.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 12:39 pm Post subject: Re: An Intresting discussion on use of Power Sand with Aqua Reply with quote

 thanks  for  the  suggestion.  i  am  a  newbie...  please  don't  mind  my  dumb  questions  sometimes.
 i  have  only  seen  branded  and  packaged  substrates  till  now.  and  used  the  ocean  free  stuff  for  two  small  cubicles.  that  i  have  placed  in  a  large  aquarium.
 
 had  a  planted  tank  before  with  some  black  powder  fertilizer  supplied  by  sea  bird  aquarium  ...  worked  out  well  ..  but  i  have  dismantled  now  for  renovation  works  in  my  house
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 1:42 pm Post subject: Re: An Intresting discussion on use of Power Sand with Aqua Reply with quote

                                                   
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In  low  tech  tanks  with  low  light  and  no  CO2,  provide  a  carbon  source  in  the  substrate,  provide  nutrients  through  extra  fish  food,  plants  will  grow.                

 
 Madan,  what  carbon  source  would  one  add  to  the  substrate?
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 2:23 pm Post subject: Re: An Intresting discussion on use of Power Sand with Aqua Reply with quote

 Charcoal?  Bone  meal?
 
 I  have  always  wondered,  what  if  I  use  charcoal  in  my  substrate.  Any  ideas,  Madan?
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