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PostPosted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 9:28 pm Post subject: Tank flourishing : Is this Anubias Bud? Reply with quote

 hi  every  one...i  am  planning  to  reset  my  existing  aquarium  and  using  ADA  soil.  the  reason  being  i  just  want  my  hairgrass  to  grow.  i  have  had  success  with  all  other  plants  in  my  tank  but  hairgrass  is  somehow  making  me  mad...
 
 my  tank  is  30'  x  12'  x  15'  (inches).  
 but  due  to  budget  constraints  i  am  planning  to  go  for  only  one  bag  of  ADA(9  litres  one).  
 
 it  will  have  with  ADA  soil  on  the  either  side  and  middle  part  with  the  white  river  sand(like  one  Amano  tank  below...i  will  not  have  rocks  but  i'll  have  driftwood  instead.  this  will  save  me  some  ADA  soil.  
 but  as  the  other  side  surrounding  this  white  river  sand  will  be  kind  of  slope  i  might  need  something  else  to  fill  the  both  side  and  then  put  ada  soil  on  top  of  it  to  make  a  slope.
 
 i  am  planning  to  use  the  top  2  inch  with  ADA  soil.  so,  what  shall  i  put  below  it??
 some  thread  suggested  that  laterite  and  ADA  spells  disaster.
 kindly  suggest.
 plants  which  i  will  keep  are  excatly  the  same  as  what  i  have  now.(and  this  is  a  closed  list).
 1.  vallisneria(nana,  broad,  spiralis)
 2.  anubias  nana,  barteiri,  coffefolia
 3.  moss(java,  christmas,  flame)
 4.  HAIRGRASS(i  WILL  grow  it)
 5.  crypt  wendtii.
 i  might  take  out  the  vallisneria  (the  big  one)  based  on  what  others  will  suggest.  the  focus  is  purely  on  growing  HAIRGRASS(lawn  of  hairgrass  to  be  precise)  as  other  plants  on  the  above  list  are  not  very  finicky  about  soil(except  maybe  crypt).
 
 currently  my  tank  looks  like  this(pretty  obvious)
 
 EDITED  By  Moderator(Tirtha)Picture  removed.  Just  put  an  link  of  the  Concept  Tank  picture.  


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 10:58 pm Post subject: Re: suggestions : for an ADA soil aquarium. Reply with quote

 Hi  Muddassar,
 
 I  would  suggest  you  to  postpone  this  plan  and  go  for  complete  ADA  substrate  when  you  can  afford  it.  And  there  is  also  ADA  substrate  similar  to  river  sand  (ADA  Branco  -  think  its  the  one).  And  one  more  suggestion  is  -  research  into  which  substrate  (or  combination)  will  be  better  for  your  plan.
 
 In  my  opinion,  either  go  for  complete  ADA  substrate  or  not  at  all.  But  its  your  call.
 
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 11:16 pm Post subject: Re: suggestions : for an ADA soil aquarium. Reply with quote

 Thanks,  Deepak....i  have  no  clue  as  to  what  ADA  combination  will  be  best.
 
 i'll  wait  for  other  ADA  experts  to  answer  to  this  query.  
 
 how  is  your  loach  tank  doing???why  don't  you  post  a  picture  of  your  loach  tank
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 13, 2009 10:24 pm Post subject: Re: suggestions : Tomorrow is the BIG day Reply with quote

 Tomorrow  is  the  BIG  day....
 i  will  be  redoing  my  planted  aquarium.  i  am  planning  to  give  a  try  for  LAL  MITTI.  in  some  posts  i  have  seen  Trevor  suggest  that  we  can  get  LAL  mitti  from  lalbagh  botanical  garden.  just  wanted  to  ask  a  few  question.
 
 1.  is  this  Red  soil  very  fine  one  which  we  normally  use  to  grow  usual  potted  plants  or  is  it  something  different(i  mean  in  terms  of  fineness)?
 
 2.  will  it  not  become  like  Mud(mire  to  be  more  exact)?
 
 3.  what  about  adding  1  kg  of  peat  moss  in  the  soil?
 

 i  am  planning  15  kg  of  red  soil  topped  by  0.5  inch  of  river  gravel.  
 
 the  plants  i  am  planning  are:
 
 1.  Temple  mint(the  one  which  Avadhoot  Sankpal  has  in  his  tank)
 2.  Dwarf  hairgrass.
 3.  Vallisneria  spiralis.
 4.  crypt  wendtii
 
 rest  will  be  the  ones  that  do  not  use  soil....
 
 1.  java  fern
 2.  Christmas/flame/java  moss
 3.  anubias
 
 please  suggest  fast  as  by  tomorrow  noon  I'll  start  the  buying  the  needed  stuffs.....
 
 thanks  in  advance....
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 14, 2009 9:39 am Post subject: Re: suggestions : Tomorrow is the BIG day Reply with quote

                                                   
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 i  am  planning  15  kg  of  red  soil  topped  by  0.5  inch  of  river  gravel.  
                 

 
 1/2  inch  of  red  soil   topped  with  at  least  2"  -  3"   height  of  cleaned  river  gravel.  2  -  3mm  in  size.  Thumb Up
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 14, 2009 10:51 am Post subject: Re: suggestions : for an ADA soil aquarium. Reply with quote

 Hair  grass  wont  grow  in  this  substrate.  I  have  tried  three  times  and  given  it  up.  It  appears  to  grow  first  and  then  just  melts/  gets  a  lot  of  algae.  the  other  plants  will  not  have  a  problem  growing.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 14, 2009 10:56 am Post subject: Re: suggestions : for an ADA soil aquarium. Reply with quote

                                                   
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Hair  grass  wont  grow  in  this  substrate.  I  have  tried  three  times  and  given  it  up.  It  appears  to  grow  first  and  then  just  melts/  gets  a  lot  of  algae.  the  other  plants  will  not  have  a  problem  growing.                

 True.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 14, 2009 8:53 pm Post subject: Re: suggestions : for an ADA soil aquarium. Reply with quote

 hmmmmm..........if  the  experts  say  that  hairgrass  won't  grow  in  this  substrate  then  this  plan  is  dead.
 I'll  forget  the  hairgrass  till  i  get  ADA  soil  in  April....
 
 thanks  a  lot  Trevor  and  Preetam.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 14, 2009 11:22 pm Post subject: Re: suggestions : for an ADA soil aquarium. Reply with quote

 Muddassar
 
 Give  a  try  with  hairgrass  with  your  planned  substrate.  Apart  from  substrate,  light,  water  quality  and  fertilisation  play  important  role  to  grow  any  particular  species.
 
 I  have  grown  hairgrass  in  just  plain  sand  gravel,  I  repeat  in  just  plain  sand  gravel  with  water  column  fertilisation.
 
 There  are  many  reason  for  failure,  substrate  could  be  one  of  them  but  not  the  only  one.
 
 Just  give  a  try.
 
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 14, 2009 11:34 pm Post subject: Re: suggestions : for an ADA soil aquarium. Reply with quote

 well  just  my  2  cents  use  soilrite  with  any  soil  it  will  boost  the  plant  growth.i  recently  grow  9  pots  of  hair  grass  with  just  2  pots  in  one  month  using  soilrite  and  alluvial  soil  mix  topped  with  3  inches  of  river  gravel  under  4  wpg,pressurised  co2  and  regular  dosings.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 15, 2009 12:20 am Post subject: Re: suggestions : for an ADA soil aquarium. Reply with quote

 thanks  a  lot  Rana  and  Abhi....i  was  going  to  put  hairgrass  again....i  am  quite  adamant  to  grow  it.  i  wil  give  it  a  try  ...
 
 @Abhi:  where  do  i  find  this  soilrite???  is  it  a  brand??
 
 any  more  additives  to  the  soil  anyone  would  like  to  suggest???
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 I  have  grown  hairgrass  in  just  plain  sand  gravel,  I  repeat  in  just  plain  sand  gravel  with  water  column  fertilisation.
 
 Regards                

 
 Rana  just  a  quick  question.  How  old  was  the  substrate  when  you  planted  the  hairgrass?
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 15, 2009 5:48 am Post subject: Re: suggestions : for an ADA soil aquarium. Reply with quote

 Gautam
 
 It  was  just  two  months  old.  I  did  not  use  any  additives  in  substrate  just  NPK  and  trace  dosing  in  water  column.
 
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 15, 2009 6:10 am Post subject: Re: suggestions : for an ADA soil aquarium. Reply with quote

 Muddasar
 
 I  also  request  you  to  check  the  quality  of  your  water  you  are  using  for  your  tank.  This  can  make  a  great  diffrence.
 
 Hair  grass  needs  soft  to  low  hardness  water.  ADA  helps  because  this  soil  reduces  water  hardness  and  pH.
 
 After  planting  The  emergent  growth  will  die  and  new  submersed  shoot  will  appear.  Change  at  least  25%  water  every  week.  
 
 Soilrite  is  mixture  of  peatmoss,  perlite  and  vermiculite.  It  is  a  branded  product.  Search  in  IAH  with  soilrite  tag.
 
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 15, 2009 9:32 am Post subject: Re: suggestions : for an ADA soil aquarium. Reply with quote

 Thanks  Rana,
 
 the  hairgrass  grew  nicely  earlier  then  it  started  to  get  algae  deposits  on  its  leaves  and  also,  most  of  the  time  it  starts  shooting  the  new  plants  out  of  the  gravel.  it  freaks  me  out  watching  white  roots  all  over.  i  mean  the  ones  where  the  roots  are  out  of  water  are  growing  nicely.  the  one  with  roots  inside  are  almost  brown  with  algae.
 
 i  dose  with  macros  and  micros  every  week.....dosing  is  5  ml  of  both  for  70  liter  water  every  week.
 any  changes  needed  in  dosing???
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