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PostPosted: Mon Oct 20, 2003 8:45 am Post subject: making a 10' x 2.5' x 2' tank Reply with quote

 hello,
 
 I'm  looking  to  make  a  10  feeet  tank..  and  looking  for  information  on  how  much  it  might  cost..the  thickness  of  glass  needed..  and  if  its  posible  ot  do  it  myself..
 
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 Hello  Arvind,
 
 Congradulations  on  your  new  venture  and  wish  you  good  luck.  The  question  you  have  asked  is  rether  too  vague  cos  the  costing  might  depend  on  various  cireteria  depending  on  what  kind  of  setup  you  are  looking  for,  and  as  for  the  glass  I  advice  u  to  go  in  for  a  19mm  Glass  only  and  please  look  for  availability  cos  I  dont  think  that  thickness  is  available  off  the  shelf.  Please  do  not  DIY  cos  this  is  not  the  size  of  tank  where  one  should  try  to  cut  the  edges.  One  mistake  could  result  in  a  disaster.  Not  to  mention  that  you  are  playing  with  water  that  is  in  very  high  pressure  and  could  result  fatal  if  things  went  wrong.  Always  have  an  experienced  aquarist  with  you  to  do  the  job.
 
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 And  make  sure  that  your  flooring  can  take  the  weight  of  such  a  heavy  tank  :wink:
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 Hi,
 
 You'll  need  19mm  glass  for  a  10  feet  aquarium.  All  aquariums  of  this  size  that  I  have  seen  have  glass  of  these  dimensions.
 
 Since  the  height  is  2.5  feet  you  will  definitely  need  it.
 
 When  I  last  checked  19mm  Glass  was  around  Rs.250/-  per  square  feet.
 Many  Glass  cutters  do  not  want  to  handle  19  mm  thick  glass,  as  they  are  afraid  of  a  breakage.
 
 The  best  way  is  to  find  a  wholesaler  who  will  source  it  for  you.    The  dimensions  you  have  given  may  be  cut  from  the  same  sheet  as  the  standard  sheet  is  10  x  10  feet.  You'll  have  to  buy  all  the  wastage  too.
 
 The  best  I  have  seen  is  a  14  feet  aquarium  with  19  mm  tempered  glass  and  stainless  steel  top,  center  and  side  bracing.  This  tank  was  used  for  a  reef  aquarium  and  with  density  of  sea  water  being  higher  than  fresh  water  it  needed  additional  strengthening.  Moreover  the  Marine  invertebrates  are  too  expensive  to  risk  a  failure.
 
 There  are  a  few  guys  in  Bombay  who  will  do  it  with  thinner  glass  notably  
 Mr.  Nitish  Patel,  Tel.  No.  -  022  -  26713914.  You  can  contact  him  and  get  an  estimate.
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 Hi  Arvind,
 
 Do  you  want  to  make  a  all  glass  tank  ?  Or,  can  it  be  stainless  steel  with  front  glass  ?
 
 An  all  glass  tank  will  require  lots  of  support  pieces  to  prevent  the  10  ft  long  glass  from  bulging  &  breaking.  19  mm  glass  will  also  be  very  heavy.  My  5'  x  2'  x  3'  12  mm  tank  is  so  heavy  that  it's  not  possible  to  shift  or  lift  it  from  the  stand.  Checkout  http://www.fnzas.org.nz/glassthickness.0.html  &  http://www.fnzas.org.nz/459.0.html  for  details  on  glass  thickness  &  large  tanks.
 
 Please  calculate  tank  weight  &  water  weight  &  plan  your  tank  stand  accordingly.  A  tank  with  dimensions  120  x  24  x  30  would  have  a  volume  of  1413.7  ltrs.  Water  weight  will  be  about  1420  kgs.  A  solid  concrete  base  might  be  a  good  idea.
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 Most  of  these  huge  tanks  are  made  of  acrylic  abroad  i  think,  Madan  and  Ravi  will  know  better  as  they're  both  well  travelled  Smile
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 Many  DIY  tanks  of  over  300  gallons  are  made  out  of  plywood(3  walls+base)  and  a  glass  window.
 Detailed  plans  can  be  found  on  the  web.
 Of  course  the  weight  will  still  be  a  factor,  but  you  have  less  glass  to  work  with...always  a  good  idea.
 Most  of  the  floor/weight  precautions  are  for  people  who  have  wooden  floors..a  lot  I  guess  in  the  US  or  EuropeBut,  I  remember  reading  somewhere  that  modern  RCC  floors  can  take  weights  of  a  ton  or  more  easily...this  however  is  for  floors  that  are  built  "properly".  
 And  REMEMBER  my  memory  might  be  faulty...consult  your  friendly  neighbourhood  civil/structural  engineer  first.
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 Thank  you  all  for  your  reply.  I  am  not  really  specific  on  having  an  all  glass  tank..  but  am  not  sure  of  how  to  go  about  finding  a  stainless  steel  one..  would  any  one  know  people  on  the  madras.  b'lore  are  who  makes  these  tanks....  I'm  looking  ot  keep  fresh  water  fish  with  live  plants.  i  ould  like  to  also  build  external  filters  myself  and  would  welcome  suggestions  on  how  to  go  about  it.
 
 thanks  again,
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 Hi  Arvind,
 
 I  don't  think  there  are  full  time  SS  aquarium  builders.  You  may  have  to  approach  your  local  SS  vessels  fabricator.  Some  one  who  specialises  in  building  tanks,  large  industrial  vessels  will  be  able  to  help  you.  The  Bangalore  Govt.  Aquarium  has  SS  Tanks.  You  may  want  to  look  at  these  for  design  specs.
 
 Local  fabrication  will  be  good  idea.  Think  of  cost  of  transporting  it  to  your  city.
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 hi
 
 I  recently  saw  a  2x2  x  4  ft  tank  with  just  8mm  glass.    glass  thickness  is  suppsed  to  be  dependant  on  the  height  of  the  tank..  the  tall  the  tank  the  thicker  the  glass-  if  i'm  not  wrong..madan  why  would  i  need  19  mm  glass  for  2.5  ft..  though  the  length  is  quite  long?
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 Large  glass  tanks  are  more  difficult  to  maintain  and  more  prone  to  accidents.
 
 One  of  the  large  aquarium  makers  in  Singapore  -  Aquatechinc  Pte  Ltd.,  with  whom  I  spent  asome  time  learning  how  they  make  large  tanks  in  their  factory  a  few  years  ago  -  did  not  use  anything  less  than  19  mm  glass  for  a  10  feet  tank.  According  to  them  you  have  to  increase  the  Safety  Factor  as  the  length  of  the  tank  increases.  Otherwise  a  small  accident  bump  against  the  glass  of  a  large  aquarium  is  a  disaster.
 
 One  of  our  very  own  guys  in  Bangalore  Suresh  Babu  has  made  an  aquarium  of  19  mm  glass  you  can  contact  him.  Some  one  may  have  his  contact  details.
 
 Mr.  Nitish  Patel  of  Mumbai  who  has  years  of  experience  in  Setting  up  ultra  large  aquariums,  his  latest  is  27  x  6  x  4.5  feet,  is  the  man.  You  can  ask  him  for  advise  and  he  is  the  best  qualified  to  deliver  the  same.
 
 His  contact  details:
 
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 Hi,  I  work  in  Saudi  Arabia,  and  have  made  a  few  55  to  80  G  acrylic  tanks.  Will  be  moving  to  Hyderabad  shortly  and  I  would  like  to  know  if  anyone  knows  where    good  quality  cell  cast  acrylic  sheets  can  be  bought  (even  in  Bangalore),  approx  cost  for  1/2"  thickness,etc.Any  info  will  be  welcome
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 Heyy  !  why  do  you  want  such  a  huge  aquarium  ??  i  mean,  yes  huge  is  good  but  this  is  insanely  huge..  it  is  like  taking  huge  risks/efforts  to  earn  $10000000000  when  u  already  have  $100000000  ..  what  will  you  keep  in  a  10  foot  tank  which  you  cant  keep  in  a  5/6foot  one??  hahahha  Smile!    
 
 Anyways,  im  just  trying  to  discourage  you..  Wink  but  dude..  19mm  glass  -  10  foot  loong  is  rather  too  muchfor  a  DIY  job  !  and  fabricating  in  SS  will  cost  u  too  much  moneyy..  besides,  any  welding  will  seep  under  such  huge  pressure...    
 
 also..  has  any  of  us  crazy  enthusiasts  ever  thought  of  buying  a  syntex  ki  tunkii,  cutting  1  side  open  n  placing  glass  with  silicon?  wot  u  think  can  this  work?
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 I  have  been  reading  your  posts  and  have  also  seen  that  there  appears  to  be  no  reply  to  my  own  question  about  acrylic.This  large  10'  tank  can  be  fabricated  with  1"  cell  cast  acrylic.It  is  available  in  10'  x  5  '  sheets.
 www.garf.org  will  give  you  the  cut  measurements  and  any  good  signboard  maker  will  cut  it  for  you.All  you  need  then  is  chloroform  or  methylene  chloride  to  weld  the  pieces  together.Much  stronger  than  glass,  much  lighter,and  far  less  prone  to  catastrophic  failures.  Only  it  might  cost  3  times  as  much  as  the  19mm  glass.  I  f  you  are  ast  alkl  interested  I  can  give  you  step  by  step  instruction  on  how  to  do  it
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 Hi  Gopi,
 
 No  one  has  responded  to  your  query  maybe  because  they  don't  have  the  answer.  Why  not  write  an  article  with  photos  on  how  to  build  an  aquarium  tank  with  acrylic.
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