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PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 3:16 pm Post subject: A MAJOR DISASTER ...... Reply with quote

 Hi  all,
 
 We  had  our  first  major  disaster  with  our  new  42"  cichlid  tank  last  week  -  and  hope  that  was  the  last!  
 
 After  almost  3  weeks  or  so  of  stable  condition,  on  sunday  the  tank  sprung  a  leak.  I  was  out  of  the  country  and  my  wife  had  to  manage  it.  We  hadn't  stocked  the  3rd  24"  tank  as  yet  and  so  she  moved  the  texans  and  salvinis  into  this  tank  and  called  the  LFS  who  supplied  the  tank  to  fix  it.  He  came  and  resealed  the  glass  and  the  tank  was  up  and  running  in  2  days  time.  The  tank  was  reset  and  kept  for  cycling  -  this  was  on  Tuesday.  The  Texans  and  Salvinis  were  kept  the  smaller  tank  while  this  tank  cycled  -  it  was  reset  using  half  the  water  from  the  planted  tank  and  so  had  a  head  start  on  the  cyling.  And  we  thought  all  had  gone  fine  .....
 
 Saturday  night  one  of  the  texans  dies  and  by  sunday  night  all  the  rest  die  too  -  the  tank  was  a  cycled  tank  -  just  had  a  lone  betta  for  about  3  weeks  in  it  -  has  its  own  power  filter  and  heater  and  my  wife  had  done  PWC  once  in  between.  I  returned  Monday  morning  and  learnt  of  the  deaths  of  all  of  the  cichlids  within  a  matter  of  hours  from  the  first  till  the  last.  There  was  no  visible  signs  on  any  of  the  fish  of  any  infection  -  no  spots  or  fungus  or  any  visible  signs.  What  could  have  gone  wrong?
 
 So  with  that  we  had  3  tanks  of  which  2  were  empty  again.  Finally  Tuesday  evening  we  went  and  got  6  Oscars  -  about  1.5"  -  babies  really  -  2  red  tiger,  2  copper  and  2  red  tiger  veil  tail  and  stocked  the  42"  tank.  They  are  doing  fine  and  we  are  planning  a  PWC  every  3  days  now.  The  temp  is  stable  at  28  C.  We  are  feeding  Hikari  Gold  pellets  in  the  morning  and  Cichlid  sticks  in  the  evening.  They  are  awesome  fish  and  now  we  are  sincerely  hoping  that  things  go  well  this  time.  We  had  gotten  very  fond  of  the  salvinis  and  texans  and  it  did  hurt  a  lot  to  lose  them.  We  are  planning  on  a  big  tank  -  something  like  a  8'x2'x2'  -  which  will  be  the  home  for  the  oscars  in  about  a  couple  of  months  time.  Till  then  I  hope  the  current  42"x22"x15"  tank  is  sufficiently  large  for  their  current  size.
 
 The  24"  tank  has  been  emptied  and  dried  -  in  case  there  was  some  infection  in  that  tank  that  killed  all  4  cichlids.  Will  set  it  up  again  this  weekend  and  then  decide  what  to  stock  that  with  ....  as  of  now  with  the  recent  disaster  not  sure  whether  to  stock  or  keep  it  as  a  standby  tank  -  cycled  and  ready  if  needed.
 
 Will  post  some  pics  of  the  oscars  over  the  weekend.
 
 Thanks
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 4:03 pm Post subject:  Reply with quote

 Hi  abhay
 A  tank  is  cycled  when  it  has  nitrifying  bacteria  in  enough  numbers  to  convert  deadly  ammonia.
 In  your  broken  tank  when  you  reset  it,  all  bacteria  must  have  died.  When  you  restocked  the  tank  using  old  water  there  would  have  been  not  enough  good  bacteria  in  your  tank.
 Kindly  note  that  a  significant  number  of  nitrifying  bacteria  live  in  gravel,  filter  media  etc.  only  a  very  small  number  live  in  the  water  itself.  Therefore  just  by  transferring  old  water  you  will  not  have  enough  bacteria  in  your  tank.
 As  you  have  a  number  of  tanks  please  get  a  simple  ammonia  test  kit.  This  way  you  will  always  be  sure  of  the  quality  of  your  water.
 As  far  your  spare  tank  you  can  clean  it  with  hot  water  and  then  it  can  be  used  as  you  wish
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 4:05 pm Post subject:  Reply with quote

 Hi
 missed  out  in  my  prevoius  reply,  when  silicon  gum  cures  it  releases  acetic  acid.
 I  don't  know  the  number  of  safe  days  after  which  a  repaired  tank  can  be  used  but  I  think  it  should  more  than  2  days,  4-6  days
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 4:24 pm Post subject:  Reply with quote

 Hi  Sandeep,
 
 Thanks  for  your  replies.  The  tank  was  kept  cycling  fishless  after  repair  -  for  1  week  with  all  the  existing  gravel,  rocks,  power  filter  etc  -  so  should  have  had  a  fair  amount  of  the  nitrifying  bacteria  in  it  and  the  water  was  from  my  other  planted  tank  -  so  that  too  should  have  helped.  
 
 Thanks  again,
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 And  yes  I  do  have  the  test  kit  and  the  water  was  tested  for  ammonia  and  nitrates  before  getting  the  oscars  home.  BTW  -  is  there  any  specific  test  kit  that  you  would  recommend  -  something  that  you  have  used  and  know  to  be  accurate  in  its  results?
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 sad  to  hear  abt  those  texas,  those  were  some  awesome  quality  fish  Sad
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 Dear  Abhay,
 Sorry  for  the  loss    Sad  
 I'm  sure  we  all  have  come  across  tragic  incidences  like  this  and  understand  your  plight.
 Please  let  us  know  the  dimensions  of  the  24"  tank  and  the  size  of  the  fish  that  died.
 Secondly,  I  would  say  there  is  no  commercially  available  test  kit  which  can  test  your  Bio-Bacteria  so  relax  and  don't  worry  -  from  your  post  I  can  make  out  that  you  are  a  dedicated  aquarist  who  is  mature  enough  to  understand  fish  and  their  requirements  -  if  we  can  be  of  any  further  assistance  do  let  us  know
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Abhay_11  wrote:                
And  yes  I  do  have  the  test  kit  and  the  water  was  tested  for  ammonia  and  nitrates  before  getting  the  oscars  home.  BTW  -  is  there  any  specific  test  kit  that  you  would  recommend  -  something  that  you  have  used  and  know  to  be  accurate  in  its  results?                

 
 What  I  have  found  helpful  is  that  whenever  you  are  testing  aquarium  water  always  calibrate  the  test.  
 A  very  easy  way  is  to  take  fresh  water  in  a  seperate  test  tube  and  do  the  same  test  on  fresh  water.  This  test  with  fresh  water  will  give  you  a  more  reliable  indication  of  how  much  your  aquarium  water  has  changed  from  original  water.
 By  the  way  liquid  reagent  tests  are  better  than  strip  tests.
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