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PostPosted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 1:27 pm Post subject: Chage of Setup...need a lot of advice! Reply with quote

 Hi  all,
 
 I  have  a  3ft  tank  (36"X18"X18")  and  currently  it  houses  a  about  5  pairs  Goldfish  and  1  pair  of  Angelfish  from  about  5  months  when  i  started  this  hobby  Smile  .  I  am  planning  to  buy  an  arowana  Cheering  ,  which  is  not  more  than  5  or  6  inches  as  i  want  to  see  it  grow.  Many  questions  i  need  answers  to:
 
 1.  Is  the  tank  big  enough  to  house  an  arowana  which  is  5-6  inches  ATLEAST  for  a  few  months?  I'll  upgrade  to  a  5  or  6  footer  in  about  8-9  months  time.
 
 2.  I  am  also  planning  to  buy  a  canister  filter  (suggestions  required  on  which  one)  for  the  current  tank  when  i  buy  the  arowana,  and  later  use  the  same  for  the  bigger  tank.  Is  it  really  required  or  will  it  be  an  overkill  ?
 
 3.  Is  it  advisable  to  have  rocks  and  plants  (i  currently  have  a  porous  rock  in  my  tank,  not  sure  about  the  plants)  with  the  arowana,  i  read  on  the  net  that  rocks  may  damage  the  scales  on  the  aro.
 
 4.I  am  planning  to  got  to  Chennai  and  buy  a  Red  Arowana  or  a  red-tail  golden  arowana,  so  i  need  the  contact  numbers  or  atleast  names  of  good  LFS  in  Chennai  as  i  have  no  idea  abt  chennai  LFS.
 
 5.  If  i  buy  an  arowana  from  chennai,  is  it  ok  to  bring  it  to  Bangalore  by  train  (AC  coach)  or  is  it  a  strict  no-no?
 
 6.  How  do  i  prepare  my  existing  tank  for  the  Arowana?
 
 
 I  may  be  travelling  to  Chennai  this  weekend  so  would  appreciate  quick  advice.
 
 My  name  is  Shashank  and  i  am  from  Bangalore.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 2:13 pm Post subject: Re: Chage of Setup...need a lot of advice! Reply with quote

 Arowana  will  grow  to  12"  -  15"  in  8-9  months  time  frame.      You  may  need  to  upgrade  much  earlier.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 2:26 pm Post subject: Re: Chage of Setup...need a lot of advice! Reply with quote

 @jayachandrak
 
 Much  earlier  means  atleast  more  than  6  months  is  it?  When  i  upgrade  is  it  ok  to  have  a  5  feet  tank  or  is  a  6  feet  the  minimum  considering  i  dont  want  to  upgrade  after  that?
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 2:39 pm Post subject: Re: Chage of Setup...need a lot of advice! Reply with quote

 Making  room  for  a  6'  tank(at  least),  making  a  suitable  stand  for  it  and  then  making  the  tank  itself.  I  think  this  is  a  challenging  task  and  please  do  not  underestimate  it  by  thinking  that  you  can  do  it  whenever  you  want.  
 Please  plan  well  and  early,  make  the  tank  and  then  buy  the  fish.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 3:48 pm Post subject: Re: Chage of Setup...need a lot of advice! Reply with quote

 I  have  spoken  to  a  few  LFS  near  my  house  and  it  seems  like  a  6  footer  with  a  hood,  stand  and  the  tank  itself  is  no  less  than  18K,  and  i  have  to  save  money  before  i  can  get  it  done.  So  i  was  thinking  if  it  is  possible  to  start  with  the  current  tank  and  when  i  have  saved  enough  for  a  6  feet  tank,  move  him  to  it.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 5:09 pm Post subject: Re: Chage of Setup...need a lot of advice! Reply with quote

 Hi  Shashank,
 
 The  tank  requirements  for  Arowanas  depend  on  what  type  of  Aro  you  want  to  keep.
 
 1.  You  have  mentioned  you  are  planning  to  keep  a  Red  Tailed  Golden  Arowana  which  is  a  type  of  Asian  Arowana.  These  need  to  be  specially  imported  as  they  are  endangered  in  the  wild  and  cost  upwards  of  100,000  Rs.  Are  you  sure  you  are  going  for  an  Asian  Arowana?
 
 2.  If  you  mean  "Pearl  Arowana"  (or  Jardini)  which  is  relatively  similar  in  appearance  and  comes  from  Austrialia,  you  should  be  looking  at  less  than  10%  of  the  cost  of  the  Asian.  These  grow  to  a  maximum  of  3  feet  in  length  and  need  about  150  gal.  tank  (5ftx2ftx2ft).  Obviously,  the  larger  the  tank  the  happier  is  the  fish.  With  Jardinis  any  tankmate  is  a  risk.  Tank-mates  smaller  than  the  Aro  will  usually  be  killed.  There  are  some  people  who  might  have  kept  tank-mates  with  Jardinis  but  they  are  (IMO)  just  lucky.
 
 
 
 3.  I  have  a  Silver  Arowana  which  is  currently  at  about  10-12  inches.  I  got  it  on  December  6th,  2009  when  it  was  only  about  5-6  inches  in  length.  So,  my  Silver  Aro  (on  a  diet  of  shrimps  and  other  sea-food)  has  grown  at  a  rate  of  about  2  inches  per  month.
 
 So  your  Aro  is  going  to  hit  the  18  inch  mark  in  about  6  months  time  (from  the  time  he  gets  to  about  5-6  inches).  That  will  be  your  very  very  last  deadline  to  move  him  to  a  monster  tank.
 
 
 4.  Tank  decor  and  preparation  for  Arowanas:  Most  people  recommend  keeping  a  bare  tank  with  minimal  decor  for  Arowanas  which  maximizes  the  available  tank-space  for  the  fish.  Bare-bottom  tanks  are  recommended  to  make  cleaning  the  tank  easier  and  the  reflection  from  the  bottom  of  the  tank  illuminates  the  underside  of  the  fish  making  it  look  more  majestic.  
 
 5.  Filtration;  A  Canister  filter  is  recommended.  Sponge  filters  help  maintain  bacteria  colonies  in  an  otherwise  bare  tank.  (i.e.  have  both!)
 
 
 Good  Luck,
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 5:31 pm Post subject: Re: Chage of Setup...need a lot of advice! Reply with quote

 Hi  shashank  
 
 You  are  thinking  of  a  jardini  it  looks  like  and  hence  i  think  your  present  tank  should  do  for  abt  5-6  mths.  Silvers  arowanas  are  much  bigger  and  will  need  abig  tank  quickly.  
 IMO  ,  canisters  are  the  the  best  and  the  peace  of  mind  after  getting  a  good  canister  like  eheim  is  worth  the  cost.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 12:05 am Post subject: Re: Chage of Setup...need a lot of advice! Reply with quote

 @bijay
 
 Thanks  a  ton  for  the  advice!
 
 Regarding  the  arowana  i  contacted  a  LFS  in  Chennai  (i  can  PM  you  the  name,  not  sure  if  its  appropriate  putting  it  here)  and  he  clearly  mentioned  that  the  Red  Tailed  Golden  Arowana  is  available  for  about  Rs.  12K  with  the  certificate(didnt'  enquire  if  its  the  CITES  certificate)  and  the  Red  Arowana  for  abt  25k  with  a  certificate.But  you  say  its  upwards  of  a  lakh   Shocked  Am  i  being  duped  here?
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 Shashank,
 
 The  ones  I  have  seen  for  Rs  100,000  plus  were  about  12  inches  and  larger.  So,  maybe  the  one  you're  looking  at  Rs.  25K  @  6  inches  might  be  the  real  deal.
 
 CITES  certificate  is  a  must.  Asian  Aros  have  a  micro-chip  embedded  in  them  with  an  unique  ID  number  which  should  match  the  one  mentioned  in  the  CITES  certificate.
 
 Send  a  PM  to  Yogesh  (yogoranda).  (If  you  ask  nicely  Smile..)  He  will  be  more  suitable  to  give  you  more  info  about  the  Asian  Arowanas  (and  their  prices  in  India).  Yogesh  might  also  be  able  to  help  you  with  pointers  to  ensure  the  "authenticity"  of  the  CITES  certificate.
 
 There  were  also  people  on  IAH  from  one  of  the  Asian  Arowana  breeding  farms  in  Singapore  (Pan  long?).  I  don't  quite  recollect  his  username.
 
 If  this  is  indeed  being  sold  to  you  as  an  Asian  Arowana,  you  need  to  be  very  careful  to  ensure  two  things:
 
 1)  that  you're  not  being  ripped  off
 2)  that  you're  not  (inadvertently)  doing  something  illegal.  (Illegal  smuggling  of  Asian  Arowanas  is  on  par  with  smuggling  of  other  endangered  species  like  tigers  or  rhinos.)  
 
 And  once  you  do  take  all  precautions  and  ensure  you're  getting  the  right  thing,  be  assured  you  are  going  to  have  one  of  the  most  majestic  fish  available  in  the  hobby.
 
 Good  luck,
 
 Sid
 
 PS:  I  wonder  if  you  can  take  a  few  pictures  of  the  Asian  Aro  and  post  them  here..  Many  of  the  people  here  can  guide  you  with  assessing  the  quality  of  the  fish.
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 I  was  actually  thinking  of  getting  one  without  a  CITES  certificate,but  after  you  telling  me  the  risk  involved  its  simply  not  worth  it   Smile  
 
 The  LFS  is  yet  to  mail  me  the  pics  and  the  final  prices  of  the  arownana's,  once  he  sends  it  i  will  surely  post  one  online.
 
 Also  how  do  i  prepare  my  existing  tank  for  the  aro?
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 Change  of  Plan...no  longer  going  for  an  Asian  Arowana,  i  dont  think  i'm  ready  for  it  yet.  So  now  i'm  thinking  i  will  buy  either  a  silver  or  a  Jardini.  Are  the  other  varieties  like  the  Green  or  Black  Arowana  available  for  slightly  more  than  the  silver  or  they  almost  fall  in  the  RTG  Arowana  price  range?
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