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PostPosted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 11:04 am Post subject: Moving to Planted Tank-Economy Class Reply with quote

 Hello  Friends...  good  morning,  I  have  decided  to  go  for  a  planted  tank...  economical  1  hopefully  and  for  long  I  had  been  yearning  for  LATERITE,  I  found  it  Cheering   
 
 It  was  Surprised  Right  below  my  nose  Drool  ...  I  got  it  for  free  at  SEEPZ....  If  you  remember,  the  planted  bowl  I  had  earlier....  it  was  full  of  grass  and  plants...  I  have  decided  to  move  these  plants  in  a  2ft  tank.  I'll  post  the  pictures  of  its  begining  here.
 
 I  have  planed  :-
 
 1.  2  ft  X  1ft  X  1ft  Tank
 2.  DIY  CO2  (please  giude  here)
 3.  Acrylic  hood  or  just  plain  light  stand  like  others  are  haviong  (  guide  here)
 4.  Some  low  cost  substrate  (guide  here)
 
 wish  me  luck
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 11:11 am Post subject: Re: Moving to Planted Tank-Economy Class Reply with quote

 *  DIY  CO2
   Very  easy  to  develop  DIY  setup.  Need  only  a  two  leter  pepsi  bottle,  yeast  and  250  gram  suger.  
 
 *  Some  low  cost  substrate
   Buy  SOILRITE.  Mix  it  with  latarite  in  the  ratio  of  40:60  means  40%  Soilrite  and  60%  latarite.  This  will  be  good  and  low  cost  substrate.  Be  careful,  Soilrite  hav  the  tendency  to  flow  over  the  water  surface.  So  cover  the  substrate  with  a  thin  layer  of  small  pebbles.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 12:07 pm Post subject: Re: Moving to Planted Tank-Economy Class Reply with quote

 Hey  Garothmaan,  Wave  
 
 Sweet  I  say!!  Very Happy  nice  jump!!
 Your  tank  surely  might  be  a  "aWe"  kinda  thing,  especially  when  you  say  "Economy  class"  <  Even  my  Favourite  I  say.
 
 Would  love  to  see  the  Pics  of  the  bowly-jungle.  Dancing  
 
 1.  2  ft  X  1ft  X  1ft  Tank
 2ft  will  limit  your  options  to  CFL/PLL  you  will  miss  economy  class  of  Philips-Trulite.  So  go  for  little  more  than  that  2(.5ft?)
 1ft  width  is  a  little  less,  but  not  a  serious  issue.  1ft  height  will  be  short,  effectively  if  you  want  1ft  water  column  get  15"  atleast.

 2.  DIY  CO2  (please  giude  here)
 Simply  dont  get  tensed  any  ratio  of  mixture  works,  provided  you  seal  the  pepsi/coke/sprite  bottle  nicely  along  the  airline.
 3.  Acrylic  hood  or  just  plain  light  stand  like  others  are  haviong  (  guide  here)
 Go  for  metal/wood,  it  wouldnt  SAG  down  into  your  water  like  your  stand  did  long  back.
 4.  Some  low  cost  substrate  (guide  here)
 Laterite  I  say,  or  with  Rajiv's  option.  May  be  you  could  search  for  some  peat  if  possible.
 
 
                                                 
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 Be  careful,  Soilrite  hav  the  tendency  to  flow  over  the  water  surface.  So  cover  the  substrate  with  a  thin  layer  of  small  pebbles.                

 Dont  frighten  Garothmaan,  ask  him  to  sprinkle  water  of  1"column  over  the  substrate  after  laying  it  down  in  the  tank  before  couple  of  hours  of  planting.
 
 ...and  cheers!


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 12:19 pm Post subject: Re: Moving to Planted Tank-Economy Class Reply with quote

                                                   
saikumar  wrote  (View  Post):                
Hey  Garothmaan,  Wave  
 
 Sweet  I  say!!  Very Happy  nice  jump!!
 Your  tank  surely  might  be  a  "aWe"  kinda  thing,  especially  when  you  say  "Economy  class"  <  Even  my  Favourite  I  say.
 
 Would  love  to  see  the  Pics  of  the  bowly-jungle.  Dancing  
 
 1.  2  ft  X  1ft  X  1ft  Tank
 2ft  will  limit  your  options  to  CFL/PLL  you  will  miss  economy  class  of  Philips-Trulite.  So  go  for  little  more  than  that  2(.5ft?)
 1ft  width  is  a  little  less,  but  not  a  serious  issue.  1ft  height  will  be  short,  effectively  if  you  want  1ft  water  column  get  15"  atleast.

 2.  DIY  CO2  (please  giude  here)
 Simply  dont  get  tensed  any  ratio  of  mixture  works,  provided  you  seal  the  pepsi/coke/sprite  bottle  nicely  along  the  airline.
 3.  Acrylic  hood  or  just  plain  light  stand  like  others  are  haviong  (  guide  here)
 Go  for  metal/wood,  it  wouldnt  SAG  down  into  your  water  like  your  stand  did  long  back.
 4.  Some  low  cost  substrate  (guide  here)
 Laterite  I  say,  or  with  Rajiv's  option.  May  be  you  could  search  for  some  peat  if  possible.
 
                                                   
Scorpio  wrote  (View  Post):                
 Be  careful,  Soilrite  hav  the  tendency  to  flow  over  the  water  surface.  So  cover  the  substrate  with  a  thin  layer  of  small  pebbles.                

 Dont  frighten  Garothmaan,  ask  him  to  sprinkle  water  of  1"column  over  the  substrate  after  laying  it  down  in  the  tank  before  couple  of  hours  of  planting.
 
 ...and  cheers!                
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 1:28 pm Post subject: Re: Moving to Planted Tank-Economy Class Reply with quote

                                                   
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Hey  Garothmaan,  Wave  
 Sweet  I  say!!  Very Happy  nice  jump!!
 Your  tank  surely  might  be  a  "aWe"  kinda  thing,  especially  when  you  say  "Economy  class"  <  Even  my  Favourite  I  say.                

 
 Thanks  Sai...
 
 
                                                 
saikumar  wrote  (View  Post):                

 Would  love  to  see  the  Pics  of  the  bowly-jungle.  Dancing  
                 

 
 Unfortunately  the  bowl  cracked  because  of  my  stupid  carelessness  Sad  But  I  do  have  pictures  of  it  just  before  it  cracked  yesterday.  I  was  able  to  save  all  the  plants  and  fishes  ....
 
 
                                                 
saikumar  wrote  (View  Post):                

 2ft  will  limit  your  options  to  CFL/PLL  you  will  miss  economy  class  of  Philips-Trulite.  So  go  for  little  more  than  that  2.5ft?
 1ft  width  is  a  little  less,  but  not  a  serious  issue.  1ft  height  will  be  short,  effectively  if  you  want  1ft  water  column  get  15"  atleast.
               

 
 I  am  actually  using  the  hospital  tank  which  has  a  little  bluish  tint,  infact  I  was  about  to  get  22"  X  1ft  X  15"  so  that  I  can  again  put  it  up  on  the  window
 
 
                                                 
saikumar  wrote  (View  Post):                

 2.  DIY  CO2  (please  giude  here)
 Simply  dont  get  tensed  any  ratio  of  mixture  works,  provided  you  seal  the  pepsi/coke/sprite  bottle  nicely  along  the  airline.                

 
 but  how  much  yeast  how  much  sugar  how  much  water?  Very Happy  
 
 
                                                 
saikumar  wrote  (View  Post):                

 3.  Acrylic  hood  or  just  plain  light  stand  like  others  are  haviong  (  guide  here)
 Go  for  metal,  it  wouldnt  SAG  down  into  your  water  like  your  stand  did  long  back.                

 
 Waht  if  I  get  nmatural  light  all  the  time  and  3  hrs  of  sunlight  (not  direct)
 
 
                                                 
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 4.  Some  low  cost  substrate  (guide  here)
 Laterite  I  say,  or  with  Rajiv's  option.  May  be  you  could  search  for  some  peat  if  possible.
                 
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 2:04 pm Post subject: Re: Moving to Planted Tank-Economy Class Reply with quote

                                                   
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 I  am  actually  using  the  hospital  tank  which  has  a  little  bluish  tint,  infact  I  was  about  to  get  22"  X  1ft  X  15"  so  that  I  can  again  put  it  up  on  the  window
 
 but  how  much  yeast  how  much  sugar  how  much  water?  Very Happy  
 
 Waht  if  I  get  nmatural  light  all  the  time  and  3  hrs  of  sunlight  (not  direct)
 
                 

 
 Just  enough  a  tank  size  for  comfort  Thumb Up  
 CO2  there  are  google  full  of  links  for  DIY  CO2  check  there  either  should  work.  Soon  you  will  get  hang  of  required  mixture.
 I  put  10granules  of  Bakers  yeast,  2cups  of  sugar  and  run  it  for  3weeks  @  1bubble/10sec.
 So  it  depends  on  your  plants,  if  you  use  the  same  bowly-plants  above  mix  should  suffice.  Or  nothing  at  all.
 
 Reg  the  light-  who  knows  you  might  give  a  brand   Thumbs Up  scaping-stratergy  of  your  own  by  using  diffused  sunlight.
 Check  out  Suraj's  planted  tank  grown  in  diffused  sunlight.  If  you  can  copy  that-  then  nothing  like  that(for  now).
 But  3hrs  is  it?  if  t  was  the  same  place  you  grew  your  bowly-plants  then  you  can  bet  to  grow  something  there.
 But  see  to  it  goes  ON  along  with  your  elect-lights  to  avoid  any  algae.
 
 I  feel  sad  when  others  break  their  tanks/bowls  Crying or Very sad  because  I  never  broke  any  Chuckle  
 
 Cheers  bro!  Rock On
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 2:49 pm Post subject: Re: Moving to Planted Tank-Economy Class Reply with quote

 Thanks  Pal...1  more  question,  this  tank  has  a  bluish  tint,  is  that  Ok?
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 2:50 pm Post subject: Re: Moving to Planted Tank-Economy Class Reply with quote

 I  have  done  the  planting  and  have  also  made  a  CO2  input,  but   where  is  the  outlet  supposed  to  be?  there  is  too  much  algaea  on  the  grass   Sad  .  I  covered  the  Tank  with  cloth  past  4  days  buit  no  effect
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 7:08 pm Post subject: Re: Moving to Planted Tank-Economy Class Reply with quote

 Explain  what  you  mean  by  CO2  input/output,  Im  not  following
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 7:46 pm Post subject: Re: Moving to Planted Tank-Economy Class Reply with quote

 Any  picture  of  your  tank?
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 2:19 pm Post subject: Re: Moving to Planted Tank-Economy Class Reply with quote

                                                   
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Explain  what  you  mean  by  CO2  input/output,  Im  not  following                

 
 I  have  a  bottle  of  yeast  +  sugar  +  water...  a  pipe  is  attached  to  the  lid  of  the  bottle...  that  pipe  is  inserted  in  the  tank.....  this  is  the  out  put...  Smile  ...  here  I  have  attached  an  air  stone...
 
 Do  I  have  to  keep  the  airstone  in  mid  Tank  or  I  have  to  lower  it  till  soil...?  Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 6:19 pm Post subject: Re: Moving to Planted Tank-Economy Class Reply with quote

 Aaah  I  get  what  you  mean  now.  Ideally  the  lower  the  better  so  that  the  bubbles  need  to  travel  a  greater  distance  to  get  to  the  surface  so  you  get  greater  amount  of  CO2  dissolving  in  there.  Also  placing  the  airstone  in  front  of  the  filter  outlet  will  help  further  in  blowing  the  bubbles  all  over  the  tank.
 
 In  my  experience,  you  need  to  play  with  the  height  of  the  CO2  outlet  position  in  the  tank  since  the  lower  it  is,  greater  is  the  water  pressure  on  it,  so  you  need  more  gas  pressure  which  DIY  CO2  cannot  readily  provide  so  then  you  get  fewer/slower  bubbles.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 6:31 pm Post subject: Re: Moving to Planted Tank-Economy Class Reply with quote

 Moving  to  Planted  Tank-Economy  Class
 
 Do  not  do  this  'Percy'.  Stick  to  Goldfish  in  a  bowl.  Please.  Wall Bang
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 7:30 pm Post subject: Re: Moving to Planted Tank-Economy Class Reply with quote

                                                   
trevor  wrote  (View  Post):                
 Stick  to  Goldfish  in  a  bowl.  Please.  Wall Bang                

 Trevor  ji  Gold  fish?  dosent  sound  economical  Very Happy  
 
 BTW  Garothmaan,  just  incase  the  airstone  gets  choked(-just  in  case)  you  will  have  a  explosion  of  alchocol.  Keep  a  check  on  it  by  pressing  bottle,  if  bubbles  do  appear  when  pressed,  stay  relieved.  Its  current  status  will  relieve  us  too  Very Happy  
 
 Too  much  of  algae  might  be  too  much  of  light  or  something  else  too.  So  just  as  you  did  in  your  1st  post,  please  do  report  in  with  as  many   details  as  possible.
 
 Good  luck!!  Thumb Up  
 ....  any  pics  for  the  mortals  of   IAH  of  thy  cute  tank?
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 10:24 pm Post subject: Re: Moving to Planted Tank-Economy Class Reply with quote

                                                   
trevor  wrote  (View  Post):                

 Do  not  do  this  'Percy'.  Stick  to  Goldfish  in  a  bowl.  Please.  Wall Bang
                 

 
 TREVOR  THE  TERROR>>>>>>  Cheer Up   let  me  try  pleeeeeeeeeaaaseeee  juz  once  Very Happy  
 
 
                                                 
Prem  kk  wrote  (View  Post):                

 Any  picture  of  your  tank?
                 

 
   Surprised   Picture?....   Doh   the  whole  IAH  will  start  pelleting  my  topic...  infact  some  of  em  could  be   just  waiting  for  this  moment  probably....  Sad  
 
 But  I  will  definately  post  a  picture....
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