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PostPosted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 11:53 pm Post subject: Aggression in Garras? Reply with quote

 I  recently  added  3  Garra  Mulya(2-3  inches)  to  my  Native  Community  Tank.  Since  then  there  have  been  death  of  2  smaller  fishes(zebra  danio  and  bimaculatus)  in  2  days.  There  is  no  other  fish  in  the  tank  I  think  would  have  done  it.
 Can  it  be  the  Garras?
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 16, 2010 12:59 am Post subject: Re: Aggression in Garras? Reply with quote

 Hi  Sid
 Don't  think  the  Garras  are  at  fault  IMO.  I  have  some  in  my  Barbs  tank  and  in  my  cans  tank  along  with  some  P.marginata's  and  assorted  barbs  (bimacs  too).  In  the  cans  tank,  the  Garra's  are  the  ones  that  take  a  beating!  They  are  boisterous  but  relatively  harmless.  They  compete  for  food  and  get  plenty  of  it.  How  big  is  the  tank?  Also  did  you  notice  any  injuries  in  the  dead  fishes?  The  Barbs  are  too  swift  for  a  Garra  to  torment  them  to  death.  Were  the  diseased  fish  added  recently  or  along  with  the  Garra's?  Anyway,  keep  a  close  watch  and  update.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 16, 2010 6:53 am Post subject: Re: Aggression in Garras? Reply with quote

 I  have  not  experienced  anything  like  this  (have  only  one  in  my  tank).  But  have  seen  posts  of  Madhu  warning  people  of  such  behavior  of  Garra  mullya.  And  how  big  are  the  garras?
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 16, 2010 8:27 am Post subject: Re: Aggression in Garras? Reply with quote

 mullya  can  get  aggressive,  in  most  cases  conspecific.   Their  primary  aggression  arrives  for  food.   Once  they  settle,  its  not  uncommon  to  see  them  chasing  other  fishes  away  from  food.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 16, 2010 10:38 am Post subject: Re: Aggression in Garras? Reply with quote

                                                   
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Hi  Sid
 Don't  think  the  Garras  are  at  fault  IMO.  I  have  some  in  my  Barbs  tank  and  in  my  cans  tank  along  with  some  P.marginata's  and  assorted  barbs  (bimacs  too).  In  the  cans  tank,  the  Garra's  are  the  ones  that  take  a  beating!  They  are  boisterous  but  relatively  harmless.  They  compete  for  food  and  get  plenty  of  it.  How  big  is  the  tank?  Also  did  you  notice  any  injuries  in  the  dead  fishes?  The  Barbs  are  too  swift  for  a  Garra  to  torment  them  to  death.  Were  the  diseased  fish  added  recently  or  along  with  the  Garra's?  Anyway,  keep  a  close  watch  and  update.                

 
 The  tank  is  a  3  footer.  The  fishes  were  eaten  beyond  recognition  by  all  the  other  fishes  when  I  noticed  it.  The  bimacs  stay  in  the  same  region  the  Garras  do  but  the  Danios  stay  in  the  top  part  and  seldom  venture  down.  I  have  added  some  fishes  from  the  recent  collection  trip  to  the  tank.  That  might  be  a  reason
 I  am  closely  monitoring.  Will  keep  updating.
 
 
                                                 
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 I  have  not  experienced  anything  like  this  (have  only  one  in  my  tank).  But  have  seen  posts  of  Madhu  warning  people  of  such  behavior  of  Garra  mullya.  And  how  big  are  the  garras?
                 

 
 I  thought  if  I  keep  one,  it  will  be  more  aggressive.  Will  reduce  the  number  if  conditions  persist.  Size  is  2.5-3  inches.  Good  I  didnt  introduce  a  really  big  one  I  have(4+  inches)   Smile  
 
 
                                                 
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 mullya  can  get  aggressive,  in  most  cases  conspecific.   Their  primary  aggression  arrives  for  food.   Once  they  settle,  its  not  uncommon  to  see  them  chasing  other  fishes  away  from  food.
                 

 
 Exactly  what  I  observed  while  feeding  yesterday.  Their  aggression  and  chasing  was  conspecific,  a  towards  a  big  fat  schistura  I  have.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 16, 2010 11:16 am Post subject: Re: Aggression in Garras? Reply with quote

 Hey  btw,  what  exactly  do  you  feed  to  you  Garras?  mine  are  quite  relaxed  still,  but  let's  see,  not  sure  what  they  are  up  to  when  I  am  not  at  home.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 16, 2010 11:47 am Post subject: Re: Aggression in Garras? Reply with quote

 They'll  eat  anything  you  feed  and  when  you  don't  they  graze  on  algae.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 16, 2010 11:53 am Post subject: Re: Aggression in Garras? Reply with quote

 @Sid  -  I  didnt  mean  keeping  just  1  will  reduce  aggression.  Think  its  always  better  to  keep  in  groups.  Only  thing  is,  I  was  not  lucky  enough  to  get  many  when  I  ventured  out.  Its  exactly  the  opposite  in  my  tank-   Schistura  chases  the  garra.
 
 @Ben  -  Mine  usually  grazes  on  algae  and  whatever  I  feed  the  other  fishes.  basically  pellets  and  wafers.  It  took  few  days  for  it  to  recognize  commercial  fish  food.  Basically  a  no  fuss  guy/gal.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 16, 2010 12:26 pm Post subject: Re: Aggression in Garras? Reply with quote

 Garra's  will  not  kill  your  P.bimaculatus  or  danios.  Their  aggression  is  conspecific  means  they  will  target  other  Garra's  only,  especially  during  feeding  time.  At  most  they  will  act  like  pests  with  other  fishes  and  deprive  them  from  food.  
 
 You  have  added  these  three  new  Garra's  directly  to  your  tank  or  have  you  quarantined  them?  Please  realize  that  wild  fishes  will  be  harboring  parasites  or  various  diseases.  Will  not  effect  the  hardy  fishes,  but  weak  one's  from  a  established  tanks  will  perish  if  infected.  
 
 Secondly,  has  this  caused  a  sudden  drastic  change  in  the  Bio-load  of  your  tank?
 
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 P.S:  Check  the  newly  caught  P.conchonius  from  Cauvery.
 
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 16, 2010 2:11 pm Post subject: Re: Aggression in Garras? Reply with quote

 I  have  added  similar  conchonius  and  a  couple  of  them  have  the  same  parasite  looking  thing  attached  to  them.  Off  topic,  but  will  General  Rid-all  worms  work  for  these  parasites?
 
 The  change  in  Bioload  is  a  big  factor,  Will  be  doing  frequent  water  changes  till  the  tank  stabilizes  again.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 17, 2010 12:47 pm Post subject: Re: Aggression in Garras? Reply with quote

                                                   
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I  have  added  similar  conchonius  and  a  couple  of  them  have  the  same  parasite  looking  thing  attached  to  them.  Off  topic,  but  will  General  Rid-all  worms  work  for  these  parasites?
 
 The  change  in  Bioload  is  a  big  factor,  Will  be  doing  frequent  water  changes  till  the  tank  stabilizes  again.                

 
 Quarantine  the  fish  and  give  them  a  potassium  permanganate  bath.  
 
 Rid-all  will  not  be  that  effective.
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