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PostPosted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 3:37 pm Post subject: Query on substrate Reply with quote

 Hi  Guys
 
 I  will  be  starting  a  new  planted  tank  some  time  next  month,  the  cabinet  (iron  L  angle  with  laminated  ply  around)  &  the  hood  has  been  built  and  the  tank  will  be  ordered  soon.
 
 Specs  of  the  tank:  30  x  24  (b)  x  18  (h).
 CO2:  Pressurised
 Lights:  T5  x  8  (if  i  can  manage  to  go  to  Fakhru  shop  then  perhaps  T5HO  x  1/5)
 either  case  28  w  will  be  4k  spectrun  and  rest  6.5k
 Substrate  will  be  laterite  +  riversand
 Dosing:  Microsol  +  Macros  (KNO3  &  K2SO4)
 
 No  scape  planned  as  of  yet,  but  with  the  size  and  the  width,  iwagumi  seems  to  be  the  best  bet.  I  had  a  fairly  good  success  with  hair  grass  and  that  what  i  am  tempted  to  go  ahead  with  again  and  with  balaxya  near  the  stones..
 
 Just  wanted  to  understand  what  all  types  of  substrate  have  our  fellow  planted  aquarists  have  been  using  and  the  source  of  it.  I  have  used  riversand  in  the  past  and  the  only  concern  i  had  is  that  50%  of  the  gravel  is  very  find  sand.
 
 I  have  hear  good  about  Nitish  Patel  (from  Vile  Parle),  has  anybody  bought  gravel  or  anything  from  him  in  the  past.
 
 Cheers
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 6:08 pm Post subject: Re: Query on substrate Reply with quote

 Yup  Nitesh  Patel  owns  Affable  Aquarium  near  Mithibai.  I  have  bought  some  plants  from  him  in  the  past  and  also  always  buy  my  River  sand  from  him.  He  has  two  types.  Make  sure  you  get  the  one  which  is  finer  and  looks  like  it  has  mud  in  it.  That  will  have  enough  nutrients  in  it  that  can  be  supplemented  by  dosing  ferts
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 6:34 pm Post subject: Re: Query on substrate Reply with quote

 what's  the  price  mortis?
 maybe  i  can  pick  some  too.
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 @  harpreet  -  i  have  starts\ed  with  another  tank  as  a  experiment  for  myself  ....
 the  substrate  is  1"  of  latrite  and  the  rest  is  golden  sand  gravel  what  you  get  in  the  LFS  ......trust  me  with  good  amount  of  co2  dosing  and  proper  dosing  of  fertilizers  .....the  plants  have  grown  very  beautiful  .....
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 Hi  Mortis
 
 River  sand  with  fine  sand  mix  is  what  we  normally  get  all  over  Mumbai.  What  I  am  trying  to  find  perhaps  is  gravel  with  2-3  mm  consistency,  have  you  seen  something  similar  anywhere.  I  think  its  commonly  available  in  Bangalore,  but  its  been  very  difficult  to  get  it  in  Mumbai.  Construction  sand  (kappi)  is  another  option  but  the  sieving  and  the  cleaning  part  keep  me  away  from  it  even  if  I  am  able  to  find  a  source  for  the  same.
 
 Can  you  pm  me  the  cost  of  the  gravel.  Thanks.
 
 Hi  Amey
 I  have  a  tank  for  about  last  2  years  now  with  laterite  +  river  sand  (same  as  referred  by  Mortis)  and  had  no  problems  what  so  ever  to  grow  any  plant.  only  challenge  i  have  found  is  to  maintain  the  tank  when  the  plants  start  to  grow  like  a  week.
 
 Anyways,  if  you  noticed  the  tank  specs  are  little  odd  (30x24(b)x18(h))  and  with  that  size  I  was  thinking  of  starting  a  iwagumi.  I  had  good  success  with  hairgrass  and  was  itching  to  go  ahead  with  the  same.  I  would  presume  its  much  easier  to  plant  and  for  Hair  grass  or  even  Glosso  to  spread  in  gravel  of  size  2-3  mm.
 
 In  anycase,  I  can’t  find  a  source,  will  go  for  the  river  gravel  as  suggested  by  Mortis.
 
 Cheers
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 3:30 pm Post subject: Re: Query on substrate Reply with quote

 If  you  have  the  money  to  spend,  you  could  go  for  the  ADA  substrate...
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 4:36 pm Post subject: Re: Query on substrate Reply with quote

 my  tank  specs  are  the  same  as  yours.....im  usin  ada  toped  with  aquaclay......
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GatorX  wrote  (View  Post):                
If  you  have  the  money  to  spend,  you  could  go  for  the  ADA  substrate...                

 
 I  dont  want  to  spendo  so  much  especially  when  i  have  been  able  to  grow  pretty  much  everything  with  laterite  +  riversand.  Further  going  through  one  of  Madan's  thread,  i  am  happy  to  stay  with  the  same.
 
 My  only  concern  has  been  that  my  substrate  had  lot  of  fine  mud  (and  thats  the  case  with  all  the  river  sand  that  i  have  seen  avaliable  in  Mumbai  and  hence  was  looking  for  something  similar  (in  looks  ad  price)  in  appropriate  size  i.e.  2-3  mm
 
 
                                                 
ASSASSIN  wrote  (View  Post):                
my  tank  specs  are  the  same  as  yours.....im  usin  ada  toped  with  aquaclay......                

 Out  of  curiosity,  what  quantity  have  of  each  have  you  used.  Also  is  it  ammazonia  1,  2,  africana  and  is  ada  used  as  the  base  substarte  topped  with  Aquaclay.
 
 Kind  regards
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 yup  ada  aquasoil  amazonia  2   topped  with  aquaclay...
 
 15  lts  of  ada  and  15kgs  of  aquaclay.....
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 ADA  Amazonia  II
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 Hello  Harpreet,
 
 Its  interesting  to  know  that  you  had  good  success  on  hairgrass  with  laterite  and  normal  gravel....could  you  share  the  specs  of  that  setup  and  any  pic  of  hairgrass  growth?
 
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 i  am  planning  for  a  hairgrass  setup....hence  the  details....
 
 cheers,
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 Hi  Binesh
 
 I  am  currently  in  the  UK  and  all  the  pics  etc  will  be  on  my  home  computer.
 
 You  can  have  a  look  at  the  last  thread  that  I  uploaded  on  that  tank:
 http://indianaquariumhobbyist.com/community/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=8922&start=45
 
 It  was  a  28  x  12(b)  x  18  tank,  all  inches.  Lights  at  the  end  were  around  90  w  (2  x  36w  pll  +  1  18w  truelight).
 
 On  the  substrate,  I  covered  the  river  gravel  with  regular  chip  gravel  which  allows  to  plant  the  hair  grass  and  for  it  to  spread  easily.  However  due  to  neglect,  BBA  also  grew  well  with  the  Hair  grass  and  due   to  lack  of  time  all  was  taken  off  and  shipped  to  Bangalore   Chuckle   (grew  to  a  mug  full  from  about  8-10  bunches  in  about  6-8  months).  with  the  method  I  chose,  it  does  take  some  time  to  pickup  and  then  really  shoots  off.  The  grass  mutiplied  3  times  before  the  issues  started,  perhaps  timely  and  good  trimming  should  have  been  what  I  needed  to  do.
 
 Other  details  can  be  found  in  the  thread.
 
 Cheers
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 Harpreet  thats  a  very  nice  tank  bro!
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Harpreet  thats  a  very  nice  tank  bro!                

 
 Thanks  Bro.  This  time  want  to  make  it  bigger  and  better   Smile
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