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PostPosted: Wed Jan 26, 2011 6:38 pm Post subject: Re: Latest Acquisition Reply with quote

 Beta,  i  think  will  be  a  good  idea  as.  .  .  it  can  used  as  ready  reference  guide.
 
 The  fish  is  collected  from  Type  locality  of  H  kurali.  .  .  i  noticed  only  one  pair,  will  need  to  check  closely
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 i  noticed  only  one  pair,  will  need  to  check  closely                

 
 Check  under  the  rostral  flap.........
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 26, 2011 11:15 pm Post subject: Re: Latest Acquisition Reply with quote

 Avik,  yes  it  is  a  fish  that  is  quite  similar  to  Calbasu..  i  have  seen  a  calbasu  but  never  kept  one,  i  will  have  see  how  tough  this  one  will  be  on  the  other  guys
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 Something  to  help  confirm  the  species
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 The  fish  is  in  a  bad  shape.....I  cant  count  Predorsal  scales,  Lateral  line  nor  the  Lateral  transverse.
 
 Looks  like  L.  nigrescens  but  I  cant  clearly  differentiate  it  from  L.  calbasu  cause  both  have  almost  all  characters  overlapping  except  for  Lateral  line  scales  which  is  36-37  in  L.  nigrescens  and  40-44  in  L.  calbasu  (Day  1878;  Talwar  &  Jhingran  1991;  Jayaram  1999)  I  need  a  better  specimen  to  confirm.
 
 I  will  call  yours  L.  nigrescens  by  just  one  feature  of  the  black  spot  at  the  base  of  each  scale  (Jayaram  1999)
 
 I  have  posted  a  picture  of  what  is  commonly  collected  around  Chennai  as  L.  calbasu.  This  fish  is  different  from  your  fish  in  body  shape  but  I  will  also  not  go  strictly  by  it  because  these  fish  are  released  by  the  fisheries  department  and  they  have  crossed  a  lot  of  Labeo  sp.  though  the  fish  I  have  posted  has  the  meristics  of  L.  calbasu  it  could  have  a  L.  rohita  or  some  other  Labeo  gene  which  gives  it  an  odd  shape.
 
 
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 I  read  that  there  also  variance  in  the  lip  structure.  .   L  nigerscence  upper  lip  is  lightly  fringed  and  lower  lip  is  highly  fringed,  whereas  in  L  calbasu  both  lips  are  fringed
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 Most  likely  Juvenile  H  kurali
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H.  thomassi  from  Chalakudy.  Image  courtesy  Andrew  Rao
 
 I  guess  there  are  Hypselobarbus  (Puntius)  jerdoni  also  in  the  lot  (black  tipped  dorsal)
 
                 

 
 Just  looking  at  the  pic  and  I  doubt  very  much  the  fish  with  black  blotch  on  dorsal  are  Jerdoni  !  they  look  far  to  slim  ,  IMO  they  look  like  Discherodontus  Ashmeadi  ,  but  they  are  a  Thai  fish  !  is  there  a  Hypselobarbus  with  Black  mark  in  dorsal  ?
 I  know  Andrew  is  a  trader  ,so  is  it  possible  he  aquired  some  Thai  fish  for  sale  ?
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I  know  Andrew  is  a  trader  ,so  is  it  possible  he  aquired  some  Thai  fish  for  sale  ?                

 
 The  entire  lot  was  collected  from  south  India.
 
 AFAIK  he  maintains  a  very  good  log  of  his  fish  and  I  doubt  any  mixup  Smile
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 9:17 am Post subject: Re: Latest Acquisition Reply with quote

                                                   
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Pic  of  H.  jerdoni  provided  by  a  friend
 
                 

 
 Marc,  are  you  sure  the  above  is  H.  jerdoni?  Somehow  I  am  not  convinced.
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I  know  Andrew  is  a  trader  ,so  is  it  possible  he  aquired  some  Thai  fish  for  sale  ?                

 
 The  entire  lot  was  collected  from  south  India.
 
 AFAIK  he  maintains  a  very  good  log  of  his  fish  and  I  doubt  any  mixup  Smile                

 
 Andy,
 Andrew  clarified  that  the  pic  was  indeed  shot  in  a  tank  overseas............  So  I  guess  there  could  have  been  a  mix  up  in  my  idy'ing.  You  could  be  right   Thumb Up  
 
 Shankar,
 Am  quite  sure,  what  do  you  suggest?
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 Hi  Marc  ,  the  colour  of  the  fish  in  Andrew  pic  was  making  me  think  D,ashmeadi  the  lower  lobe  of  the  caudal  in  Ashmeadi  is  really  red  and  the  tip  of  the  dorsal  is  rounded  also   Thumb Up  I  have  about  four  in  one  of  my  tanks   Smile  
 
 A  few  years  ago  I  had  two  Jerdoni  ,beautiful  colouration  !  but  in  the  ones  I  had  the  colour  was  predominantly  orange  ,not  really  red  ?  nice  fish  mine  grew  to  about  ten  inches  and  though  the  colour  faded  a  bit  they  were  still  very  nice   Very Happy  they  were  still  Puntius  then   Chuckle  
 
 Andrew  does  get  some  beautifully  enigmatic  fishes  from  time  to  time  .  Thumbs Up
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 Hi  Shankar  ,  personally  I'd  say  that  fish  is  a  Jerdoni  youngster   Thumb Up  very  nice  too  !
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Dear  Sirs,
 I  have  attached  a  pic  your  kind  perusal.  Please  elucidate  what  fish  it  is.
 
                 

 
 Any  Idea  what  is  this  fish  beta  posted.....it  looks  similar  to  the  H  kurali  juvenile  i  posted?  Any  idea  where  it  was  collected  from??
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 Yeah,  it  could  be  a  possible  juvenile.  The  large  Oreichthys  like  eyes  and  the  amount  of  black  in  the  dorsal  makes  is  appear  way  too  different.
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