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 Guy!  When  I  emptied  my  small  tank  (running  for  5-6months)  i  was  shocked  to  see  the  dirt  collected  under  it.  Trust  me  the  water  was  so  so  dirty  than  even  if  u  put  your  hand  inside  u  u  could  not  see  your  hand.  And  imagine  the  fish  were  staying  in  this  dirt  for  a  while.  And  the  most  common  statement  ppl  use  is  the  LFS  has  the  UG  running.  What  you  miss  to  observe  is  there  are  no  fish  in  the  tank  for  long.  The  fish  come  in  and  are  sold  within  a  week  to  10days.  So  the  fish  donot  seem  to  be  harmed.  But  you  have  a  tank  that  will  be  running  for  months  together.  The  UG  generates  a  need  of  a  extra  powerhead  to  be  introduced  into  the  tank  so  that  will  contribute  to  heating  the  water.  Secondly  the  trickle  (wet/dry)  filter  are  cheap  and  very  effective.
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 Hi  Apurva
 
 How  much  would  a  wet/dry  filter  cost  me  in  mumbai,  for  a  42  l  x  14  b  x  18  h  (  inches)  tank  
 
 
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 You  get  a  DOLPHIN  overhead  filter  at  Aakar  (Kurla)  for  Rs850.  The  media  and  stuff  would  be  another  Rs150  so  consider  around  1k  for  the  filter.  I  am  using  one.  Its  really  really  good.  Infact  u  can  make  one  back  at  home  and  use  the  canister  output  as  the  input  for  the  wet/dry.
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 Dear  Apurva
 
 Can  we  use  this  wet/dry  filter  as  stand  alone  or  do  it  requires  supplement  filter  like  canister  
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 It  is  advisable  to  only  put  a  layer  of  floss  and  a  layer  of  carbon.  Put  the  carbon  above  the  floss.  The  cardon  will  polish  the  water  the  filter  floss  (  the  white  spongy  thing)  will  trap  debris  and  will  also  become  a  breeding  ground  for  bacteria.  You  can  also  put  Bio  Balls  but  nowadays  they  are  discouraged  becuase  they  tend  to  increase  the  Nitrate  production.
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 Hi  guys!
 
 Sorry  for  the  silence,  was  away  from  home  for  a  couple  of  days!
 
 Gokul,
 
 For  a  2  footer,  an  airstone  based  skimmer  will  surely  do.  You  can  drop  in  or  call  me  sometime,  I  have  a  spare  one  thats  brand  new  that  I  can  spare  for  you.  You  can  also  pick  up  a  Hydrometer  from  me.  This  is  just  because  you  are  a  beginner,  and  you  are  interested!
 
 Nerusan,  
 
 I  dont  believe  in  keeping  fishes  without  filters  on.  I  have  also  managed  to  see  fishes[marines]  alive  in  setups  without  aeration  or  filtration  for  moths  together,  but  I  think  thats  not  the  way  to  keep  fish.
 
 Under  gravel  filters  are  good  filters.  I  am  sorry  to  say  that  some  people  do  not  know  what  they  are  used  for,  and  how  they  work.  
 
 You  have  to  spend  some  money  to  get  some  quality  stuff  for  marine  setups.
 
 You  will  have  to  buy  sea  salt  and  mix  it  with  fresh  water  to  make  the  water  ready  for  your  tank.  Sea  water  collected  will  not  work  for  you,  unless  you  filter  it  using  UV,  and  micron  filtration  before  using  it.
 
 You  need  good  lighting.  By  good  lighting,  I  mean  at  least  4  tubelights  that  fit  above  your  tank,  or  even  better,  Metal  Halides.
 
 You  surely  need  a  protien  skimmer.  Its  best  to  use  a  skimmer  powered  by  a  powerhead.
 
 You  do  not  need  an  airstone  in  your  tank,  if  you  install  a  good  filter.
 
 For  success  with  marines  you  surely  need  water  circulation.  You  will  need  to  install  powerheads  strategically  so  that  there  are  no  places  in  the  tank,  that  have  no  water  circulation.
 
 You  will  surely  need  to  maintain  your  tank  doing  water  changes,  at  the  frequencey  I  mentioned.
 
 Doing  water  changes  means  cleaning  your  substrate  too.  If  there  are  people  who  dint  know,  I  am  sorry  about  that.
 
 Water  change,  means  scrubbing  all  the  tank  sides  clean,  and  siphoning  out  all  the  muck  out  of  your  substrate,  using  a  gravel  vac!
 
 If  money  is  a  major  thing,  and  you  dont  want  to  spend,  the  best  thing  would  be  to  have  a  bare  tank,  with  the  cheapest  fishes  in  it.  Once  the  fishes  kick  the  bucket,  buy  some  more.  This  will  be  saving  on  electricity,  accessories,  and  maybe  food  too.
 
 Cannot  think  of  anything  else.
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 HI  Nitin  
 
 Pls  do  not  be  upset  and  remove  your  anger  on  me    Very Happy    due  to  fellow  aquarist  suggestion,  i  am  a  newbie  in  marine  and  just  checking  out  the  various  or  the  BEST  filtration  for  the  tank  as,  for  money  goes  need  good  value  for  filtration  and  not  cheap  or  very  expensive  one
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nytyn  wrote:                

 Gokul,
 
 For  a  2  footer,  an  airstone  based  skimmer  will  surely  do.  You  can  drop  in  or  call  me  sometime,  I  have  a  spare  one  thats  brand  new  that  I  can  spare  for  you.  You  can  also  pick  up  a  Hydrometer  from  me.  This  is  just  because  you  are  a  beginner,  and  you  are  interested!
                 

 
 Hi  Nitin,
 
 Thanks  on  that.........  would  give  you  a  call  in  a  couple  of  days....  right  now  having  hectic  schedules.....
 
 I  would  like  to  collect  the  book  for  marine  setups  you  mentioned  to  me....  that  would  be  of  great  help  to  me
 
 Thanks  again    Smile
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 nerusan  the  wet/dry  filter  i  am  talking  about  comes  with  a  external  powerhead  which  picks  water  from  your  tank  and  throws  it  into  the  filter.  One  more  advantage  with  this  is  oxygen  also  dissolves  in  the  water  so  in  case  your  Air-pump  fails  you  still  have  something  running  as  a  backup.
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 That  was  one  helluva  comeback  post  with  a  whole  lot  of  built  in  sarcasm.
 
 All  I  know  is  my  Tank  works  and  my  fish  are  doing  great...no  sign  of  stress  whatsoever  and  I  personally  have  been  in  this  hobby  for  quite  some  years  and  all  my  knowledge  come  from  experience  and  a  whole  lot  of  reading.  I  would  not  be  adding  to  this  post  anymore  since  I  think  I  have  said  my  bit  and  I  stand  by  it  100  %.
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 Nerusan,
 
 One  last  thing.....the  Bible  for  Marine  Aquarium  hobbyist  is  www.wetwebmedia.com....  that  site  rocks  once  you  go  there  all  your  questions  will  get  answered...trust  me  my  hobby  grew  up  on  that  site  and  I  swear  by  it.  You  will  get  professional  advice  which  is  what  counts.  I'am  just  a  novice  when  I  compare  myself  to  the  folks  at  wetwebmedia.
 
 Cheers  and  best  of  luck  and  remember  this  fair  warning  ...
 
 Only  Bad  Things  Happen  Fast  
 
 Over  and  Out  .
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 hi  guys,
                           if  i  have  an  overflow  in  my  tank  will  it  eliminate  the
 need  for  a  protein  skimmer?
 
 secondly,  i  dont  think  there  is  any  ONE  correct  method  for  
 doing  things.you  can  acheive  the  same  result  in  so  many
 different  ways.use  it  so  long  as  it  works  for  you.each  one  must  
 explore  and  dicover  what  is  right  for  themselves.and  each  one  is  
 entitled  to  his  or  her  opinion.
 please  respect  that.
 
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 Tina,
 
 No  it  will  not  eliminate  the  need  of  a  P.Skimmer  you  still  need  the  Skimmer  to  get  rid  of  the  DOM  that  will  present  in  the  water  due  to  the  bio  load  .  The  overflow  will  certainly  help  in  surface  skimming  hence  keeping  the  surface  of  the  water  clean  because  somtimes  there  is  a  build  of  a  oily  layer  on  the  surface  if  there  is  no  good  water  circulation  in  the  tank.
 
 By  the  way  from  where  did  u  get  the  overflow.
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 Hi  Apurva  /  Marine  Aquarist  
 
 I  treid  to  search  the  Dolphin  filter  on  the  net  but  could  not  find  one  
 
 is  this  wet/dry  filter  availaible  in  India  
 http://www.thatpetplace.com/Products/KW/F32/Class/Fish+Supplies+Wet+Dry+Filters/T1/F26JA+0221+0228/EDP/18026/Itemdy00.aspx
 
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 Hi  Nerusan,
 
 Did  u  see  its  price??  It  is  $129..........  
 
 That  is  the  cost  I  have  planned  to  set  my  marine  tank....    Crying or Very sad
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