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PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2011 9:15 pm Post subject: DIY Sump With Refugium for NANO Reply with quote

 Hi  Guys
 
 Posting  a  DIY  sump  plan  with  refugium  for  nano  reef  tanks.  which  IMO  will
 help  many  novice  guys  like  me  and  Shelly  to  setup  their  start  up  marine  tanks
 quickly.  Actually  I  got  this  request  from  Shelly  to  get  a  DIY  sump  plan  for  the  marine  tank  he  is  going
 to  start.  He  is  having  a  1X1X1  feet  tank  which  he  wants  to  use  as  a  sump.  Hence  this  design  
 is  based  on  a  similar  sized  tank.  I  have  been  doing  RnD  on  this  for  past  few  months
 and  have  designed  this  based  on  some  of  the  successful  sump  designs.  
 
 1  point  I  would  like  to  mention  before  starting  is  ,  for  any  sort  of  plumbing  needs  use  the  hot  water
 pvc  pipes,  which  are  double  priced  than  the  normal  one,  and  does  not  allow  salt  to  be  deposited
 inside  the  pipe.  these  pipes  are  off-white  in  color,  with  a  bit  better  pvc(you  will  understand  it  if  you  hold  it)
 and  a  red  line  should  be  painted  across  the  length.  I  will  get  those  pipes  tomorrow  and  post  some  pics
 in  this  thread.  Until  then  please  look  at  this  plan,  and  of  course  experts...provide  comments  and  further  improvement  plans..
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2011 10:17 pm Post subject: Re: DIY Sump With Refugium for NANO Reply with quote

 Hi
 The  slow  raw  water  flow  to  the  refugium  would  introduce  unwanted  detritus  to  the  refugium  area.  This  may  result  in  putrefication  of  collected  detritus.  The  aragonite  sand  used  in  the  DSB  should  be  started  at  an  inch  and  then  slowly  increased  in  a  few  months  to  its  final  level.  When  using  fixed  piping  use  union  fittings  so  that  you  can  remove  the  pipes  later  to  enable  cleaning  and  also  to  remove  any  clogging  that  may  happen.  If  the  pipes  that  you  will  be  using  are  CPVC  then  use  the  corresponding  glue  only.  Run  the  system  with  fresh  water  for  a  few  days  before  you  add  salt  and  other  peripherals.  Will  be  watching  the  topic.  Best  of  luck.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2011 11:09 pm Post subject: Re: DIY Sump With Refugium for NANO Reply with quote

 Think  about  adding  a  bubble  trap  between  the  fuge  and  the  return  section.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2011 11:14 pm Post subject: Re: DIY Sump With Refugium for NANO Reply with quote

 Hi  Rohit..
 
 Thanks  for  your  valued  inputs.  As  per  detritus  is  concerned  ,  the  big  chunks
 need  to  be  avoided  by  placing  a  pre-filter  to  the  water  outlet  from  the  main  tank/overflow,  
 some  sort  of  medium  grain  sponges  will  serve  this  purpose  easily.
 
 secondly,  can  you  post  some  images  for  the  piping  and  the  kind  of  joining  you  are  referring
 to,  this  would   help  understanding  the  plumbings  easily.
 
 Also  please  explain  more  on  that  DSB  fact,  as  why  it  needs  to  be  started  from  an  inch  of  thickness
 and  increased  gradually.  Because  the  lower  anaerobic(low  in  oxygen)  zone  which  facilitates  denitrification
 will  no  more  remain  anaerobic  and  denitrifying  bacteria  will  not  colonize  for  longer  period  of  time  until
 that  zone  again  becomes  anaerobic.  Also  Gradual  increment  of  Sand  base  can  continuously  be  a
 disturbance  to  the  critters  and  the  same  might  affect  the  colonization  of  the  critters  quickly.  My  point  is  
 so  far  I  have  not  come  across  any  document  which  says  to  do  so,  just  wanted  to  have  more  clarity  on  this.   Smile
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2011 11:20 pm Post subject: Re: DIY Sump With Refugium for NANO Reply with quote

                                                   
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Think  about  adding  a  bubble  trap  between  the  fuge  and  the  return  section.                

 
 Hi  Gremlin..
 
 Thanks  for  your  input..
 
 Could  you  please  elaborate  bit  more  on  this  as  we  are  pretty  noobs   Very Happy  out  here
 and  really  have  no  idea  what  exactly  that  does  or  how  does  that  function.
 
 I  have  seen  your  previous  posts  on  many  other  topics  and  will  be  grateful  for  any  valued
 and  of  course  a  bit  elaborate  Very Happy  readings..  that  you  have  to  offer..
 
 Thanks  in  advance.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2011 11:46 pm Post subject: Re: DIY Sump With Refugium for NANO Reply with quote

 Bubble  trap  will  prevent  micro  bubbles  from  being  sucked  by  your  pump  and  push  it  into  your  display  tank.  Your  skimmer  and  the  return  pipe  will  put  out  lot  of  microbubbles.If  you  dont  trap  them  they'll  get  in  your  tank  and  you'll  find  it  very  irritating.  Attach  another  piece  of  glass  about  one  inch  from  the  bottom  and  about  one  inch  from  the  main  partation  glass  and  attach  another  piece  of  glass  on  the  botton.  So  the  water  will  come  over  and  go  under  the  second  partation  and  go  over  the  third  partation.  Its  kinda  hard  to  explain,  google  for  "Bubble  Trao  for  Aquarium  Sump"  you'll  get  many  pics  ahd  will  get  an  idea.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 1:44 am Post subject: Re: DIY Sump With Refugium for NANO Reply with quote

                                                   
gremlin  wrote  (View  Post):                
Bubble  trap  will  prevent  micro  bubbles  from  being  sucked  by  your  pump  and  push  it  into  your  display  tank.  Your  skimmer  and  the  return  pipe  will  put  out  lot  of  microbubbles.If  you  dont  trap  them  they'll  get  in  your  tank  and  you'll  find  it  very  irritating.  Attach  another  piece  of  glass  about  one  inch  from  the  bottom  and  about  one  inch  from  the  main  partation  glass  and  attach  another  piece  of  glass  on  the  botton.  So  the  water  will  come  over  and  go  under  the  second  partation  and  go  over  the  third  partation.  Its  kinda  hard  to  explain,  google  for  "Bubble  Trao  for  Aquarium  Sump"  you'll  get  many  pics  ahd  will  get  an  idea.                

 
 
 Hey  Gremlin..
 
 Found  bubble  trap...its  nothing  but  one  extra  piece  of  glass  added  to  give  a  bottom-up
 movement  of  the  water  prior  to  the  return  chamber  to  minimize  micro  bubbles...
 Attaching  the  image  of  bubble  trap.
 But  as  you  can  see  there  is  very  little  room  left  in  this  sump  for  a  bubble  trap  to  be  added(and  is  difficult  too
 to  attach  in  this  small  place),  I  saw  another  practice  to  remove  micro  bubbles,  which  also  I  am  posting  here..
 
 Let  me  know  your  opinion
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 12:38 pm Post subject: Re: DIY Sump With Refugium for NANO Reply with quote

 Looks  fine  Sourav...
 
 A  couple  minor  things...
 
 1.  Its  small........,  guessing  a  space  limitation.  You  may  face  problems  ahead  if  you  want  to  add  in  a  reactor.  Where's  the  feed  pump  to  chiller  (are  you  using  one?)
 
 2.  This  is  just  my  opinion,  but  I  don't  favor  DSB's  anymore.  Prefer  a  SSB  of  an  inch  or  less.  Had  an  SSB  in  my  refugium  for  2  years,  which  collected  a  whole  lotta  junk.  DSB  woulda  been  much  more.
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