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PostPosted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 12:23 pm Post subject: Tetra's Dying Reply with quote

 I  had  10  Neons,  4  Mountain  Minnows,  2  Silver  Tips  and  2  Pristellas.  They  were  doing  fine  until  one  day,  one  of  the  neons  was  dead  and  the  others  looked  sick.  I  isolated  the  Neons  and  they  died  one  by  one.  Now  only  one  Neon  is  alive  and  he  seems  fine.  But  one  of  my  Silver  Tips  has  had  his/her  mouth  open  for  like  3  days  at  a  stetch.  Its  always  open  and  seems  fine.  What  the  hell  is  wrong  with  it  :'(
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 Hi
 Kindly  post  your  tank  specs.
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 Ya  that's  right  first  give  tank  specifications  and  general  feeding,  maintenance  habits.
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 'Open  mouth'  can  be  an  indication  of  High  Toxins  in  water...could  be  Ammonia/Nitrates...
 
 Check  your  tank  water  parameters...
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 Ok  all  my  Neon's  died.  Including  the  four  new  ones.  Then  another  Mountain  Minnow  and  a  Silver  Tip  died  too.  Yesterday.  They  both  had  a  cut  or  something  like  that  below  near  the  stomach(mountain  minnow  and  silvertip).
 
 Tanks  Specs  eh?  I'm  really  new  to  all  this...
 Its  a  18in  X  6in  X  6in  
 with  lots  of  plants  in  it.  Live  ones.  Some  gravel  at  the  bottom  and  an  aerator  thingy.  The  pH  is  just  between  7.5  and  8  i  think.  That  maybe  the  problem.
 
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 Hi  Friend,
 Your  main  problem  is  that  your  tank  is  very  heavily  overstocked  for  its  size.  The  volume  of  your  tank  is  about  3  gallons.  This  can  hold  only  a    couple  of  neon  tetras.
 This  situation  is  analogus  to  putting  18  people  in  a  elevator  meant  for  8  people.
 The  water  gets  polluted  very  quickely  and  all  problems  occur.
 PH  is  not  a  problem,  I  have  a  ph  of  7.5  in  mu  tanks.  It  is  high  ammonia,  nitrites,  enviornment
 In  a  tank  of  your  size,  bettas,  small  gouramis  (2  at  most),  tetras  4-6,
 If  you  want  to  keep  neon  tetras,  let  your  tank  stablise  a  bit  as  they  are  senstive  fish.
 To  correct  your  current  problem  you  can  try  following
               1.  Get  a  sponge  filter,  one  that  is  driven  by  your  airpump
               2.  Change  50%  water  immediately.
               3.  Put  some  rock  salt,  two  teaspoons,  this  will  help  your  fish.
               4.  Do  not  use  any  medication,  it  will  only  worsen  the  problem.
 Don't  get  discouraged,  it  happens  to  most  of  you.  The  only  lasting  solution  to  this  is  to  keep  on  increasing  your  knowledge.  There  are  two  articles  on  homepage  on  this  site,one  by  madhu  &  one  by  myself.  They  will  get  you  started
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 How  many  neon  tetras  do  you  suggest  I  should  put  in  a  tank  that  big.  And  yes,  why  use  a  sponge  filter?  I  havent  found  one  small  enough  for  my  tank.
 
 Thank  you  very  much  for  the  info  Sandeep.  Will  try  'em  out  asap.
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How  many  neon  tetras  do  you  suggest  .                

 
 4-6
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 What  about  sponge  filters?  How  can  they  help  my  tank?
 Thank  a  kazllion  again!  Smile
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 they  help  covert  ammonia  to  nitrite...basically  for  biological  filteration....for  your  tank  size  you  would  have  to  hunt  for  one  of  those  corner  filters...
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 dont  get  discouraged  my  friend...  we've  all  been  in  this  situation  where  we  start  on  our  new  hobby  without  much  knowledge  on  it...  and  believe  me,  once  u  know  the  basics,  fish  keeping  becomes  more  interesting.
 
 another  good  idea  would  be  to  add  your  neons  last  after  a  couple  of  weeks  until  the  tank  "cycles"  and  the  ammonia-nitrites  levels  are  decent.
 
 good  luck
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 What  about  plants  and  substrate  ?  Will  that  affect  the  fish  ?
 Can  Corals  be  kept  ?  
 No  fun  in  leaving  a  neon  tetra  tank  BB  .
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 you  most  definately  can  keep  plants  with  neons...
 Iam  not  too  sure  about  corals  though...they  will  affect  the  ph  of  the  water  to  a  certain  extent...
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What  about  plants  and  substrate  ?  Will  that  affect  the  fish  ?
 Can  Corals  be  kept  ?  
 No  fun  in  leaving  a  neon  tetra  tank  BB  .                

 
 Plants  &  substrate  are  okay.  Coral  might  be  a  problem,  most  of  them  very  sharpe  edges  and  can  hurt  fishes.  Remember  that  corals  are  not  found  in  freshwater  and  freshwater  fishes  might  get  hurt  on  the  sharp  edges.
 This  would  be  espcially  true  in  a  small  tank  where  swimming  space  might  be  lesser.
 An  ideal  combination  might  be  substrate,  plants  (real,  artificial),  sponge  filter  (which  will  take  care  of  machinical,bacterial  filteration,  &  aeration),  couple  of  small  fishes.
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 lol  I  took  my  small  coral  outta  that  tank  a  long  time  back.  Anyways  back  to  the  topic...  I  did  a  50-60%  water  change.  I  havent  got  the  sponge  filter  yet  and  havent  put  salt  yet.  Will  put  the  salt  today  and  the  filter  when  ever  I  find  one  small  enuf  for  my  tank.  And  my  Silver  Tips  are  still  acting  funny,  they  sometimes  have  amazing  colour(nice  black  tail)  and  then  suddenly  become  ultra  pale.  It  keeps  switching  like  this.  Theres  one  silver  tip,  that  has  a  slightly  reddish  belly.  One  fellow  looks  likes  hes  gonna  die.  The  2  pristellas  are  as  usual  very  happy.  They  eat  a  lot  too.  Will  this  tank  ever  stabilize  or  is  it  diseased  ?  Will  I  need  to  bleach  it  or  something  ?
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