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PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 10:23 pm Post subject: Re: How to make Chelated Micronutrient mix Reply with quote

 Finally  purchased  everything.
 Today  I  started  mixing  them,  having  a  fever  is  not  helping.
 Anyway  I  have  powdered  every  chemical  seperately  in  a  spice  grinder,  then  mixed  with  Fe  gluconate,  grind  it  again.
 Mixed  everything  togather,  sifted  the  powder  through  a  mesh,  ground  the  coarse  particles.
 I  think  it  needs  to  be  sifted  and  ground  some  more.
 
 
 
 
 
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 1:17 pm Post subject: Re: How to make Chelated Micronutrient mix Reply with quote

 Sandeep  bhai,
 
 Could  you  please  share  your  trace  element  recipe?  In  most  of  the  tread  i  have  got  the  information  about  DIY  Macro  
 but  not  about  DIY  Micro.  
 
 Please  name  all  Trace   composition  with  dosage?
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 1:30 pm Post subject: Re: How to make Chelated Micronutrient mix Reply with quote

 @  Ganesaa,
 
 Trace  elements  are  the  mix  of  the  following  chemicals:
 
 Manganese
 Copper
 Zinc
 Boron
 Molybdenum
 Cobalt
 Rubidium
 Nickel
 Vanadium
 
 All  the  above  are  mixed  to  the  required  composition  and  then  dosed  in  the  tank  according  the  dosing  regime  that  you  follow  (PMDD,  EI,  All-in-one  etc).  
 
 The  reason  that  you  dont  find  the  DIY  micro  is  that,  because  its  not  easy  to  do  the  micro  mix.
 
 1.  You  need  to  have  the  whole  lots  of  chemicals  mentioned  above.
 2.  The  right  %  mix  of  each  chemicals  required  to  make  the  composition.
 3.  Very  accurate  weighing  machine  able  to  weigh  minimum  .000gm  (Usually  used  in  the  jewellery  shop)
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 1:35 pm Post subject: Re: How to make Chelated Micronutrient mix Reply with quote

 Use  the  first  five  and  don't  bother  with  the  last  four.  Your  tap  /  borewell  water  will  do  what  the  last  4  will  do.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 2:20 pm Post subject: Re: How to make Chelated Micronutrient mix Reply with quote

 Thank  you  Madan  sir,  I  will  use  this  below  five  chemicals  as  per  your  instruction.
 
 Manganese
 Copper
 Zinc
 Boron
 Molybdenum  
 
 Shelly  @  thanks  for  your  kind  information,  I  am  using  EI  method...
 Please  correct  me  the  dosage  of  the  above  chemicals  stock  solution.  
 
 15  gms  Manganese   +  500  ml  water
 15  gms  Copper  +  500  ml  water
 15  gms  Zinc  +  500  ml  water
 15  gms  Boron  +  500  ml  water
 15  gms  Molybdenum  +  500  ml  water
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 2:23 pm Post subject: Re: How to make Chelated Micronutrient mix Reply with quote

                                                   
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Thank  you  Madan  sir,  I  will  use  this  below  five  chemicals  as  per  your  instruction.
 
 Manganese
 Copper
 Zinc
 Boron
 Molybdenum  
 
 Shelly  @  thanks  for  your  kind  information,  I  am  using  EI  method...
 Please  correct  me  the  dosage  of  the  above  chemicals  stock  solution.  
 
 15  gms  Manganese  ¬†+  500  ml  water
 15  gms  Copper  +  500  ml  water
 15  gms  Zinc  +  500  ml  water
 15  gms  Boron  +  500  ml  water
 15  gms  Molybdenum  +  500  ml  water                

 
 Can  I  know  from  where  did  you  get  this  information?
 
 "15gms  of  each  chemical  to  500ml  water"  ???
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 2:26 pm Post subject: Re: How to make Chelated Micronutrient mix Reply with quote

 I  took  the  same  DIY  Macro  composition  stock  table  ....  Is  it  ok  Shelly?  Please  advice?
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 2:35 pm Post subject: Re: How to make Chelated Micronutrient mix Reply with quote

                                                   
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I  took  the  same  DIY  Macro  composition  stock  table  ....  Is  it  ok  Shelly?  Please  advice?                

 
 You  are  completely  wrong  in  understanding  how  the  chemicals  have  to  be  mixed  for  make  the  stock  solution.  Please  read  from  the  first  post  in  this  topic  to  understand  how  to  make  the  micro  stock  solution.
 
 The  micro  mix  would  have  a  certain  %  of  each  chemicals.  You  can  understand  it  by  reading  the  first  few  posts  in  this  thread.  Hence  to  attain  that  %  of  chemical,  each  chemical  have  to  mixed  in  water  to  get  to  that  %.
 
 Sandeep  have  mentioned  it  in  his  posts.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 2:58 pm Post subject: Re: How to make Chelated Micronutrient mix Reply with quote

 shelly,  I  got  it...  thanks  you  so  much.  Thumb Up
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Sandeep  bhai,
 
 Could  you  please  share  your  trace  element  recipe?  In  most  of  the  tread  i  have  got  the  information  about  DIY  Macro  
 but  not  about  DIY  Micro.  
 
 Please  name  all  Trace  ¬†composition  with  dosage?                

 
 I  have  already  mentioned  it,  what  more  do  you  want??  Chuckle  ¬†  Chuckle  
 
 
                                                 
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As  I  am  using  Fe  gluconate  which  has  a  higher  %  than  DTPA,  the  weights  will  change  somewhat
 
 
 
 Chemical---------------------------Weight(gms)---------
 Fe  Gluconate  ----------------------13.50
 Magnesium  Sulphate------------04.10
 Manganese  Sulphate------------01.80
 Borax----------------------------------0.15
 Zinc  Sulphate-----------------------0.35
 Copper  Sulphate------------------0.10
 Molibidic  acid-----------------------  0.03
 
 (Edited  to  revise  quantities:  sandeep)                

 
 Let  me  know  if  it  is  still  not  clear.


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 Arre  sandeep  these  guys  wake  up  in  the  morning,  click  on  the  small  red  link  for  the  last  post  on  the  thread  while  still  rubbing  their  eyes  and  scratching  their  behinds,
 and  start  posting  whatever  they  fancy  without  reading  anything  in  the  thread.
 
 Sometimes  it  is  better  to  be  curt  and  ignore  the  post.
 
 Everyone  has  a  responsibility,  the  newbie  especially  to  first  read  then  ask  questions.
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 Madan
 How  did  you  powder  and  mix  these  powders,  I  have  used  a  hand  masala  grinder  and  the  results  are  not  very  good.
 When  I  am  sieving  them  with  a  fine  mesh,  there  are  still  some  course  particles.
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 I  simply  added  them  to  water  and  they  all  dissolved.  Nothing  more.
 All  of  them  are  soluble  in  water.
 
 I  don't  know  about  the  Fe  Gluconate  solubility,  check  that,  you  might  have  to  dissolve  it  in  a  solvent  then  add  to  water.
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 Sandeep  read  this
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I  simply  added  them  to  water  and  they  all  dissolved.  Nothing  more.
 All  of  them  are  soluble  in  water.
 
 I  don't  know  about  the  Fe  Gluconate  solubility,  check  that,  you  might  have  to  dissolve  it  in  a  solvent  then  add  to  water.                

 
 OK,  so  this  means  that  you  mixed  enough  only  for  one  batch?
 There  is  no  problem  in  dissolving  Fe  gluconate  in  water,  I  have  been  using  it  for  some  months  now.
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