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PostPosted: Thu May 31, 2012 1:13 pm Post subject: SOS: Grassland is FADING! Reply with quote

 Hi  everyone,
 
 This  is  a  SOS  call  to  save  my  beloved  GASSLAND!!
 
 Tank  dimensions:  3'X1'WX1.25'H  ~28G
 Substrate:  ADA  new  amozonia
 Filteration:  2217  with  subtract  pro
 
 The  setup  is  about  8  months  old  now  and  I  usually  run  it  at  at  2-3  bps.
 
 At  its  prime!  -  not  very  long  back!
 
 
 
 
 
 Recently  I  was  very  busy  and  had  neglected  the  tank  for  a  couple  of  weeks  and  this  is  what  it  has  turned  into:
 
 
 
 
 
 I  think  it  is  badly  infested  with  Rhizoclonium  algae  which  was  the  subject  on  http://indianaquariumhobbyist.com/community/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=29971&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0
 
 I  have  tried  everything  from  water  changes  to  black  outs  to  cutting  down  on  lighting  etc  etc.
 
 As  you  can  see  that  my  setup  is  in  very  badshape!  About  50%  of  the  hairgrass  has  been  decimated  and  whatever  is  left  is  doing  pretty  bad....
 
 Please  advise  me  how  can  I  revive  my  GASSLAND?
 I  dont  want  to  tear  it  down   Sad   Sad  
 
 Awaiting  all  the  help  I  can  get.
 
 Thanks,
 Ashish
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PostPosted: Thu May 31, 2012 2:42 pm Post subject: Re: SOS: Grassland is FADING! Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Thu May 31, 2012 2:47 pm Post subject: Re: SOS: Grassland is FADING! Reply with quote

 Dose  with  Floursish  excel/Gluteraldehyde.  Take  a  toothbrush  and  remove  hair  algae  as  much  possible.
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PostPosted: Thu May 31, 2012 4:49 pm Post subject: Re: SOS: Grassland is FADING! Reply with quote

                                                   
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Dose  with  Floursish  excel/Gluteraldehyde.  Take  a  toothbrush  and  remove  hair  algae  as  much  possible.                

 
 Gluteraldehyde  will  kill  the  hairgrass!  is  it  not?
 
 Is  it  hair  algae  or  Rhizoclonium  ??
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PostPosted: Thu May 31, 2012 5:47 pm Post subject: Re: SOS: Grassland is FADING! Reply with quote

                                                   
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Dose  with  Floursish  excel/Gluteraldehyde.  Take  a  toothbrush  and  remove  hair  algae  as  much  possible.                

 
 Gluteraldehyde  will  kill  the  hairgrass!  is  it  not?
 
 Is  it  hair  algae  or  Rhizoclonium  ??                

 
 Gluteraldehyde  never  kills  hairgrass.  It  will  boost  the  growth  of  hair  grass  and  kill  hair  algae.
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PostPosted: Thu May 31, 2012 11:04 pm Post subject: Re: SOS: Grassland is FADING! Reply with quote

 Hi  Ashish,
 
 That  is  quite  some  damage.  I  do  not  Flourish  Excel  killing  the  algae.  I  had  the  same  algae  in  my  tank.  After  2  weeks  of  firefighting  it  seems  to  have  reduced  quite  a  lot.  Still  some  left  but  far  better  than  what  it  used  to  be.  Here  is  what  I  have  been  doing:
 
 1.  Dosing  Flourish  Excel  everyday.  I  dont  see  that  killing  algae  but  definitely  see  it  promoting  plant  growth  which  indirectly  brings  down  algae
 2.  Did  20%  water  change  every  alternate  day.  This  was  after  manually  removing  lot  of  hair  algae  with  a  brush.
 3.  Reduced  my  photo  period  and  intensity.  I  initially  was  running  with  4  X  54  W  T5  lights  for  8  hrs  a  day.  First  week  I  ran  with  only  2  lights  and  photoperiod  of  6  hrs.  Then  gradually  increased  it  the  next  week
 4.  I  did  not  do  full  RO  change.  But  everyday  I  used  to  top  up  my  tank  with  a  bottle  of  RO  water  (  not  quite  sure  if  that  would  make  any  impact  for  a  250  litre  tank  but  still  kept  doing  it).
 
 I  am  sure  you  can  beat  urs  as  well.  All  the  best  and  keep  us  posted.
 
 Regards
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PostPosted: Thu May 31, 2012 11:11 pm Post subject: Re: SOS: Grassland is FADING! Reply with quote

 Missed  another  important  point.  I  increased  my  CO2  levels  too
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2012 12:00 am Post subject: Re: SOS: Grassland is FADING! Reply with quote

 Thanks  but  is  the  algae  in  my  tank  hair  algae  or  Rhizoclonium  ????
 
 Also,  what  is  this  soot  in  the  picture?
 I  have  seen  it  build  on  a  centimeter  below  the  substrate  for  a  while  and  now  due  to  uprooting  is  all  over  my  tank....What  is  it???
 
 My  filter  is  not  really  sucking  it  in  so  there  is  a  lot  of  built  up  which  is  blanketing  whatever  hairgrass  is  remaining.
 
 
 
 
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2012 9:54 am Post subject: Re: SOS: Grassland is FADING! Reply with quote

 It  looks  more  like  dirt/substrate  dust  or  dead  algae  to  me.  You  need  a  proper  siphoning  as  filters  dont  give  100%  mechanical  filteration  in  planteds.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2012 10:18 am Post subject: Re: SOS: Grassland is FADING! Reply with quote

 Hi  Ashish,
 
 Do  you  see  any  pearling  on  the  algae?  This  looks  like  something  my  tank  had  recently.  I  used  h2o2  and  dosed  it  using  a  syringe  and  it  worked  like  magic..  You  may  give  it  a  shot.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2012 1:45 pm Post subject: Re: SOS: Grassland is FADING! Reply with quote

                                                   
saikumar  wrote  (View  Post):                
It  looks  more  like  dirt/substrate  dust  or  dead  algae  to  me.  You  need  a  proper  siphoning  as  filters  dont  give  100%  mechanical  filteration  in  planteds.                

 
 The  problem  being  faced  while  trying  to  siphon  it  out  is  that  the  hair  grass  is  also  being  uprooted  and  the  process  itself  causes  it  to  become  suspended  in  the  water  column  :(
 
 
 
                                                 
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 Do  you  see  any  pearling  on  the  algae?  This  looks  like  something  my  tank  had  recently.  I  used  h2o2  and  dosed  it  using  a  syringe  and  it  worked  like  magic..  You  may  give  it  a  shot.
                 

 
 No  the  soot  doesn't  pearl.  Saikumar  could  be  right  that  it  may  be  dead  algae,  but  then  again  how  come  this  thing  is  everywhere  a  cm  underneath  my  substrate?
 Could  snails  be  the  culprit?  I  have  had  a  ton  of  them  a  couple  of  times!
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2012 7:37 pm Post subject: Re: SOS: Grassland is FADING! Reply with quote

 Dude  ...  Doze  CO2  as  much  as  possible  ...  Water  changes  every  other  day  and  ...  Get  a  cleaning  crew  -  amanos  &  otos  should  do  the  trick  for  the  algae  ..
   Cut  down  on  lighting  too  ...
 
 This  works  for  me  man  ...  its  my  standard  algae  combat  technique  ..
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