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PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2012 11:27 am Post subject: Re: micro tubefex culture. Reply with quote

 Wow  Romi,  thanks  to  your  efforts   Clapping   Clapping   .  Looks  like  tubifex.  But  don't  think  tubifex  can  be  cultured  this  way.  So  it's  most  likely  some  thing  else.  WHat  do  you  call  them,  Romi  worms   Smile  ?
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 The  Medium.
 
 
 The  new  cultures.
 
 
 The  feed....
 
 
 The  Oat  milk
 
 
 The  worms  transferred  from  the  old  to  the  new  culture...
 
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2012 1:03 pm Post subject: Re: micro tubefex culture. Reply with quote

 thank  you  sir,  for  making  it  so  simple....
 
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2012 1:12 pm Post subject: Re: micro tubefex culture. Reply with quote

 Clapping  Clapping   COOL!  
 
 Thanks  Nayak  Jee.  I  can  see  them  multiplying.  Clapping
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2012 2:13 pm Post subject: Re: micro tubefex culture. Reply with quote

                                                   
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Wow  Romi,  thanks  to  your  efforts   Clapping   Clapping   .  Looks  like  tubifex.  But  don't  think  tubifex  can  be  cultured  this  way.  So  it's  most  likely  some  thing  else.  WHat  do  you  call  them,  Romi  worms   Smile  ?                

 
 Thanks  buddy.  I  guess  it  is  too  late  to  call  them  'Romi  worms',  isn't  it.  hehe.  Or  shall  i  ask  Deepak  G  to  rename  the  thread???   Chuckle  
 
 How  about  'Romi  mini  tubifex'?   Chuckle  
 
 Vijendra  Suryavanshi,  Bappaditya  Mukhopadhyay,  Syed  Ali,  Amir  Khan,  the  Delhi  hobbyists  i  have  given  cultures  to  in  the  last  2  and  a  half  years,  all  keep  mixing  up  the  names.  That  was  because,  at  one  meeting,  i  would  carry  microworms,  microfex  (these),  and  grindls  for  them,  and  they  would  mix  up  the  names  right  away.  Especially  microworms  and  microfex!  So  maybe  the  name  microfex  is  not  so  good.  Especially,  since  i  KNOW  they  will  grow  larger,  as  large  as  regular  Tubifex,  if  someone  keeps  them  in  a  tank  with  few  fish  that  are  already  very  well  fed  (  i  would  like  VyasTK  and  Rasik  Nayak  to  do  this  for  us,  considering  how  clearly  Rasik  has  shown  the  material  and  food  needed,  in  his  pics)
 
 They  dont  need  to  eat  rotting  fish  like  Dero  worms  are  supposed  to,  on  the  internet.  They  don't  need  the  air  pump  for  aeration  that  Tubifex  worms  need,  as  explained  by  hobbyists  and  fish  sellers,  on  the  internet.  They  have  survived  even  with  once  weekly  changes  at  times,  in  the  last  three  years.  So  the  balance  of  facts  seems  to  favour  that  they  are  indeed  an  Indian  species,  though  i  would  like  any  expert  biologist  we  might  have  on  IAH  to  give  us  some  scientific  insights  about  them.   
 
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 Great  pics,  i  was  supoosed  to  that,  but  i  just  put  URLs  of  flikr  photographs  on  IAH  two  years  ago.  Naturally,  putting  pics  straight  here  and  just  posting  URLs  of  them,  means  many  hobbyists  didnt  see  them  at  all.  These  pics  alone  will  get  many  eyeballs  and  hopefully  establish  these  mini  tubifex  permanently  in  the  fishkeeping  hobby  in  the  south  at  least!  
 
 Here  in  Delhi,  i  know  of  just  TWO  guys,  after  repeat  attempts  to  culture,  who  are  running  steady  culture  of  them  now.  Vijendra  Suryavanshi  and  Syed  Ali.  If  all  three  of  us  lost  our  cultures  (in  the  delhi  summer  heat  or  due  to  absence  from  home),  i  would  have  to  wait  to  see  another  microfex  and  then  collect  half  a  dozen,  and  that  would  take  a  looo  oo  ong  time,  till  i  had  a  culture  again.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2012 2:55 pm Post subject: Re: micro tubefex culture. Reply with quote

 hi  deepak,  long  time...  do  you  recall  our  yahoo  chats  when  u  were  still  in  UK?  I  am  surprized  u  got  a  grindal  culture  in  place  just  a  fortnight  ago..
 
 I  would  suggest  u  wait  till  you  have  better  experience  with  grindals.  Keeping  both  types  simultaneously  is  bad  for  a  live  food  beginner.  
 
 Why?  The  microfex  will  invade  a  grindal  culture  and  soon  take  over,  they  are  more  verstatile  and  outcompete  them.  
 
 
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 Deepakg  and  Romi,
 
 The  medium  scotch  brite  from  the  culture  given  to  me  by  deepakg  is  floating  since  yesterday  night.  And  the  worms  are  forming  a  ball  away  from  the  scotch  brite.  Any  particular  reason?
 
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2012 11:41 am Post subject: Re: micro tubefex culture. Reply with quote

 I  Hope  the  water  is  not  slimmy.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2012 11:58 am Post subject: Re: micro tubefex culture. Reply with quote

                                                   
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Deepakg  and  Romi,
 
 The  medium  scotch  brite  from  the  culture  given  to  me  by  deepakg  is  floating  since  yesterday  night.  And  the  worms  are  forming  a  ball  away  from  the  scotch  brite.  Any  particular  reason?
 
 Regards,                

 
 This  could  be  due  to  several  reasons.  check:
 
 1.  Did  you  do  the  daily  water  change  of  70%  with  healthy  water  (no  additives,  not  even  those  in  an  aquarium)?
 
 2.  Did  you  add  too  much  of  oatmeal  milk  considering  the  quantity  of  mini  tubifex  (using  that  name  now,  for  this  indian  species)?
 
 3.  As  deepak  said,  is  there  slime  developing  in  the  Scotchbrite  pad  unknown  to  you?  take  the  pad  out  and  take  a  look.  
 
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 In  case,  the  remedies  don't  work,  take  a  pic  for  me.  As  i  told  deepak,  the  first  10  days  are  crucial  for  the  culture  to  stabilize.  It's  like  the  culture  has  its  own  nitrogen  cycle  or  something...
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2012 12:09 pm Post subject: Re: micro tubefex culture. Reply with quote

 Whoaaaa!!!  thats  a  lot  of  science  going  on  there.
 need  a  Knock   on  my  head.  Its  spinning  wildly
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 +1Romi  
 and  check  the  bottom  side  of  scotchbrite.  And  check  the  water  level  height.
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Whoaaaa!!!  thats  a  lot  of  science  going  on  there.
 need  a  Knock   on  my  head.  Its  spinning  wildly                

 
 But  i  know  for  a  fact  you  do  so  well  with  bettas,  and  i  know  they  are  not  that  easy  either   Wink


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2012 2:36 pm Post subject: Re: micro tubefex culture. Reply with quote

 @deepakg
 
 buddy,  is  it  possible  for  you  to  change  the  name  of  the  thread  from  micro  tubefex  to  'mini  tubifex  species  from  Delhi'  ??  This  might  help  the  keepers  understand  their  origin  better  and  the  high  likelihood  that  this  is  an  endemic  Indian  worm.  Moreover,  the  method  i  use  to  keep  them  is  at  considerable  variance  from  the  culture  methods  used  in  US  and  Europe.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2012 3:12 pm Post subject: Mini tubifex species from Delhi. Reply with quote

 Okay...  someone  please  tell  me  how  to  change  topic  name.
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