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PostPosted: Mon May 10, 2004 5:17 pm Post subject: Cleaning Bloodworms Reply with quote

 Hi:
 
 I  have  a  Discus  tank  and  want  to  feed  Bloodworms.
 
 I'd  like  to  know  how  to  clean  live  Bloodworms  brought  from  LFS.
 
 Few  of  my  friends  said,  I  should  only  feed  the  alive  ones  and  not  the  dead.
 
 How  to  separate  the  alive  and  dead?
 How  to  remove  the  stink?
 To  clean,  can  I  use  direct  Tap  water  (as  it  contains  Chlorine)?
 How  to  store  them  after  cleaning?
 How  much  to  buy  so  that  the  cleaned  stock  lasts  for  a  week?
 
 Thanks  for  valuable  suggestions.
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 Hi  Nag,
   Firstly  feeding  live  bloodworms  cant  be  considered  as  100%  safe  for  the  discus!  So  you  have  to  take  some  chances  but  can  assure  you  that  you  will  get  phenomenal  growth  with  live  food.
 
 
                                                 
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 Well  what  your  friend  say  about  feeding  the  live  bloodworms  is  absolutely  true!                
You  can  seperate  the  bloodworms  by  using  a  fish  net  !
 first  wash  the  bloodwoms  throughly  and  the  suspend  it  in  the  net  over  water  only  the  live  worms  will  crawl  into  the  water,  make  sure  that  the  net  with  the  worms  is  just  at  the  surface  of  the  water.
 How  to  store  them  after  cleaning?
 Its  always  better  to  use  unchlorinated  water  for  all  these  purposes.
 You  can  store  them  in  a  small  "Katori"  or  cup  without  water  .  But  please  repeat  the  same  procedure  of  cleaning  them  after  two  days.  Adopting  ths  method  you  can  store  the  worms  this  way  for  a  week.
 
 And  coming  to  how  much  you  need  for  a  week  you  will  have  to  decide  depending  on  the  fish  you  have  and  the  frequency  of  feeding!
 It  would  be  easier  to  buy  a  large  quantity  of  bloodworms  as  its  much  easier  to  clean  a  large  quantity.
 All  the  best  with  the  bloodworms!
 
 
                                                 
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I  would  like  to  thank  Mr  Venkashi  for  teaching  me  all  the  above    procedures  for  cleaning  bloodworm                    
:lol:  !
 
 Warm  regards
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PostPosted: Tue May 11, 2004 8:59 am Post subject:  Reply with quote

 Thanks  to  you  Adip  and  to  your  Guru  who  thought  you.
 
 Well,  few  more  things:
 
 Washing  thoroughly....under  running  water?
 
 After  cleaning,  during  storing.......
 can  I  put  them  in  a  glass  tank  with  aeration
 so  that  no  further  cleaning  is  required  every  2  days?
 
 Thanks  again  Adip.  Smile  
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 Hello  Guys,
   in  addition  to  what  adipaa  had  told,  I  think  the  best  way  to  store  blood  worms  is  to  freeze  them.  Just  get  fresh  blood  worms  and  see  to  it  they  are  clean.  Put  them  in  a  plastic  bag  and  push  them  into  the  freezer.  This  way  the  worms  can  last  for  15  days.  If  this  is  gonna  be  a  problem,  you  can  store  them  by  having  them  in  a  bucket  of  clean  fresh  water.  Aireation  is  a  MUST.  Water  to  be  replaced  completely  every  12  hours.  
 
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PostPosted: Tue May 11, 2004 2:42 pm Post subject:  Reply with quote

 Hello  Venkat:
 Thanks  for  the  tip.
 
 But  I've  read  in  articles  that
 if  any  live  feed  is  not  frozen  instantly,
 they  lose  their  nutrition  value.
 Is  this  true?  Then  what?
 
 To  store  them  in  packets,  should  I  put  water  in  the  plastic?
 
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 I  just  clean  them  under  running  water  and  a  little  Potassium  permanganate  (KMnO4)  and  let  them  dry  up  for  sometime  in  a  fine  net.  Then  i  put  them  in  a  plastic  cover  and  gently  flatten  them  and  off  they  go  into  the  freezer  box.  You  can  use  them  for  2  or  3  weeks  this  way.
 
 Its  very  difficult  to  get  your  families  permission  to  keep  blood  worms  in  the  freezer.  Its  a  very  slow  process  which  can  take  quite  a  few  years.  LOL!
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 Hi  Beta    Smile  
 
 Now,  this  is  interesting!!
 
 Adip  says  feed  only  LIVE!
 You  say,  you  just  clean  with  a  pinch  of  KMNO4;  dry  and  freeze.
 
 BTW,  KMNO4  is  for  disinfecting,  right?
 What  about  the  dead  and  decomposing?
 Do  you  separate  them?
 
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 Adip  didnt  mean  bloodworms  frozen  to  death!!!
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 Hi  Nag,
       
 I  never  ever  said  that  you  cant  freeze  them  !
 Infact  BW(blood  worms)  are  better  frozen  and  fed  rather  than  being  fed  live  for  the  very  reason  that  with  the  live  bloodworms  there  is  the  problem  of  a  gill  fluke  attack  for  your  discus!  This  can  be  avoided  when  BW  are  fed  frozen!
 
 Infact  i  have  tried  both  the  above  method  of  feeding  bloodwoms  but  am  pretty  certain  that  you  can  do  away  with  feeding  the  bloodwoms  for  discus  until  they  are  breeding  wherein  it  makes  a  lot  of  sense!  
 Does  away  with  the  need  of  frequent  water  change  for  the  newborn  fry  though  gives  great  food  for  the  parents!  :lol:  
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 Hi  Adip  and  Beta:
 
 Sorry  if  I  my  posting  has  conveyed  the  wrong  intentions.  Sad  
 What  I  wanted  to  say  is,
 
 Adip  has  suggested  that  I  separate  the  Dead  and  Live;
 and  only  feed  live  worms.
 
 But  as  per  Beta's  reply,  I  presume,  he's  just  cleaning  them  under  running  water;  not  separating  the  Dead  and  Live  ones  and  finally  freezing  them  all.
 
 Now,  this  being  the  case;
 All  I  wanted  to  know  was  this  -
 
 Is  it  mandate  to  separate  Dead  and  Live?  (Oh,  my!  This  is  such  a  pain!!  Smile  )
 OR  just  cleanse  them  and  push  to  freezer?
 
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PostPosted: Wed May 12, 2004 9:08 am Post subject:  Reply with quote

 Nag
 
 Beta  gets  live  worms  delivered  to  his  door  daily,  good  cleaned  stuff.
 Hardly  any  dead  ones  there.  He  can  afford  to  just  rinse  them  in  tap  water.  Drain  all  the  water,  they  are  still  moist  though  and  freeze  them.
 
 Adip  has  to  collect  bloodworms  and  by  the  time  they  are  separated  from  the  muck  a  few  are  dead.
 
 When  there  is  a  conflict  follow  the  safer  one.  In  this  case  separate  the  dead  and  possibly  decaying  from  the  live  ones,  then  freeze  them  dead.
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 Hi  Madan:
 
 Thanks  for  bringing  clarity.    Very Happy  
 
 Now  I'm  all  GREEN  about  Beta    :twisted:  
 Getting  BW  Door  Delivered!!
 Talk  of  this!!  Some  people  have  all  the  goodies  in  the  world.  Smile  
 
 Thanks  to  all  of  you:  Venkat,  Beta  and  Madan
 Sp.  thanks  to  Adip.
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 Beware!  With  every  wish  there  comes  a  curse  Sad  
 Mine  being  that  my  discus  never  give  me  peace  of  mind  lol
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 Hello  friends,
 
 Am  following  the  topic  from  the  beginning  and  have  some  doubts  about  the  same  as  I  have  few  discus  with  me  and  am  feeding  live  worms  for  them.
 
 1.  Does  the  blood  worms  means  the  normal  worms,  what  we  get  at  LFS?
 
 2.  Here  in  Hyderabad,  we  get  worms  in  LFS  and  I  take  3  small  cups  (  bottle  cap  size  )  for  Rs.10  and  feed  my  discus  after  cleaning  them  5-  6  times  under  running  water  and  after  ensuring  that  there  is  no  dirt  and  dead  stuff  in  that.  
 
 3.  My  discus  will  have  them  oraciously  with  great  passion.  I  tried  with  all  other  stuff  but  nothing  worked  out  this  good  to  satisfy  their  hunger.
 
 4.  Is  this  process  Ok  or  do  I  need  to  take  any  extra  care  to  keep  them  away  from  possible  infections.  
 
 Please  advise.
 
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 Hi  Sharma:
 
 BW  are  blood  red  in  color  and  they  are  about  just  less  than  inch  in  size.
 
 Tubifex  Worms  (which  are  thin,  light  brick  red  and  long)  cling  to  each  other  and  appear  to  form  small  ball  like  clusters.
 
 BW  (thick  in  size)  normally  keep  wriggling  all  the  time  individually.
 
 After  cleaning  them  under  running  water,  you  need  to  disinfect  them.
 Look  at  this  posting  by  Madan:
 
 http://indianaquariumhobbyist.com/community/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=41&sid=96635535c23e015f7d46f5b9106634de
 
 Then  you  can  store  and  use.
 Hope  this  helps.
 
 Again  thanks  to  all  who  have  taught  me
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