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PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 2:58 pm Post subject: DIY fertilisers for my tank Reply with quote

 What  all  are  needed  to  make  my  own  macros  and  micros?
 Sourcing  them  from  vardhaman.
 Are  the  following  enough?
 
 1.  Fetrilon  -  13%  Fe  Fully  Chelated  With  EDTA  -  1  kg  
 2.  Microsol  -  B  -  100g  
 3.  Potassium  Nitrate  -  1KG  
 4.  Pottasium  Sulphate  -  1KG
 He  says  minimum  quantity  will  be  1  kg.
 
 Do  I  need  KPO4  -  Potassium  Monophosphate   
 KH2PO4  (Potassium  Hydrogen  Phosphate)   and
 magnesium  sulphate?
 
 heard  Vardhaman's  microsol  is  adulterated.  Is  it  true?
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 5:00 pm Post subject: Re: DIY fertilisers for my tank Reply with quote

 Yes  you  require  Phosphate(KPO4  or  KH2Po4)  .  You  might  end  up  with  algae  if  its  deficient.  The  old  theory  of  never  adding  phosphates  is  not  valid  in  recent  days.  People  dose  it  with  every  water  change.  Just  make  sure  you  do  a  WC  every  week,  else  these  might  build  up.  But  the  quantity  required  is  very  less.  Might  be  1gm  or  less  for  a  single  dosing  depending  on  tank  size.1KG  is  going  to  last  for  years  if  it  doesnt  get  contaminated  by  the  environment....  Best  to  get  these  chemicals  from  local  Labs  rather  than  source  from  Vardhaman,  apart  from  Microsol-B.
 
 1KG  of  EDTA  chelated  iron  might  cost  you  a  bomb.  I  could  get  100gms  from  a  chemical  factory  outlet  and  its  still  remaining.
 MgS04  needed  for  Mg  .  But  our  tap  water  is  normally  hard  and  so  will  contain  Mg/Ca  to  a  great  extent.  Might  not  need  that.  Try  getting  250gms  or  so  of  MgSO4.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 8:33 pm Post subject: Re: DIY fertilisers for my tank Reply with quote

 cichlid_lover  :  Thanks.
 KPO4  or  KH2Po4?  Which  is  better?
 What  is  chemical  name  for  EDTA  chelated  iron?
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 cichlid_lover  :  I  am  coming  to  chennai  on  26th  and  27th.  Can  you  provide  me  address  of  place  where  you  buy  your  chemicals?


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 10:01 pm Post subject: Re: DIY fertilisers for my tank Reply with quote

 KH2Po4  is  what  people  normally  use.  Might  be  the  easiness  of  getting  it...Just  guessing.
 
 The  chemistry  part.....  Man  you  make  me  remember  those  horrible  Chemistry  classes.
 I  hated  it  so  bad  that  I  do  not  even  want  to  google  it.  Smile
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 4:58 pm Post subject: How long can fertilisers keep without spoiling? Reply with quote

 1)  If  I  get  1kg  of  fertilisers,  how  long  will  they  last?   Won't  they  lose  their  potency?
 2)  Can  the  lab  chemical  EDTA  ferric  monosodium  salt  be  used  as  iron  source?  
 3)  What  is  the  difference  between  fertiliser  grade  and  lab  grade?   Lab  grade  are  more  than  6  times  expensive.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 6:08 pm Post subject: Re: DIY fertilisers for my tank Reply with quote

 1kG  wow  it  last  for  1  or  2  yrs  depend  on  the  tank
 
 for  my  320gallon  tank  it  will  last  6  to  9months
 
 i  got  lab  grade  kn03,kh2po4,k2so4  each  500grms  but  i  got  for  cheap  price  only,so  better  go  for  lab  grade
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 7:58 pm Post subject: Re: DIY fertilisers for my tank Reply with quote

 Going  through  older  posts,  I  find  that  many  are  not  happy  with  microsol  B.  Many  recommend  plantex  CSM-B  which  is  very  expensive  to  buy  from  http://www.aquariumfertilizer.com/index.asp.  
 Arent  there  any  simple,  non  expensive  ready  to  use  micro  fertiliser?
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 9:35 pm Post subject: Re: DIY fertilisers for my tank Reply with quote

 As  mentioned  earlier,  there  is  nothing  cheaper  when  it  comes  to  micro  nutrients.  Else  get  satisfied  with  those  orange  and  pink  colored  liquid  from  Chinese  brands.  Chelating  these  chemicals  is  not  a  easy  task  and  preserving  them  for  long  is  even  more  difficult.  So  naturally  the  price  is  very  high.  And  as  I  said  earlier,  you  might  not  need  to  add  anything  else  apart  from  the  macros  and  chelated  iron.  WC  should  ensure  everything  gets  replenished.  These  things  were  all  meant  for  people  who  use  RO  water  and  get  rid  of  all  those  stuff  from  tap  water.  If  you  go  to  Govinda  naikkan  street  near  Parrys  in  Chennai,  there  is  a  entire  street  devoted  for  chemicals.  You  can  get  all  those  chemicals  from  there.  I  have  all  the  chemicals  I  used  for  my  previous  planted  tank.  Let  me  know  if  you  want  them?
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 6:19 pm Post subject: Re: DIY fertilisers for my tank Reply with quote

 Hello  Dear,
 I  want  to  share  my  experiance  with  you,  I  used  a  very  good  site  given  below  to  decide  about  the  chamicals
 
 
 http://www.theaquatools.com

 
 I  used   the  chemicals  below  for  my  80  litre  tank
 KH2Po4                                      20gm
 KNo3                                          220gm
 MgCo3                                      100gm
 CaCo3                                       300gm
 Ferrous  Glucomate        10gm
 dissolved  in  2000  ml  and  use  5ml  of  it  6  days  a  week,  with  10%  water  change  daily
 
 
 The  only  thing  which  was  not  readily  available  was  the  last  salt  which  took  a  few  months  to  reach  me,  I  ordered  for  it  through  a  local  chemical  shop.  This  is  said  to  be  most  useful  and  safe  substance  comparatively.
 
 I  started  using  it  on  16/08/2012  and  I  am  very  satisfied  with  the  results,  my  plants  are  in  individual  pots  in  about  3-4  inch  of  substrate.  There  had  been  no  loss  of  fish  sice  then  and  there  is  no  problem  of  algae.
 
 I  suggest  to  you  to  use  the  above  said  site  to  decide  the  quantities  for  your  Aqauria.  (I  personally  feel  that  if  CaCo3  is  used  we  should  use  some  other  salt  of  Mg  than  MgCo3.)
 
 For  micro  Nutrients  I  started  using  the  "Nutralite  Multimineral  tablet"  of  AMWAY  twice  a  month  (  I  started  it  recently),  I  have  yet  to  calculate  about  it.
 I  have  Cripts  and  Amazon  Sword  and  they  are  growing  nicely  under  28  Watts  of  mixed  light  of  a  Warm  day  light  Tube  and  some  LED  lights  of  RED  and  Blue  Spectrum  in  majority.
 In  fact  I  have  tried  to  develop  a  calculator  for  lights  which  I  am  planning  to  share  throgh  this  site.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 8:14 pm Post subject: Re: DIY fertilisers for my tank Reply with quote

 Hi!
       Can  you  post  us  your  other  specs  of  your  tank  like  substrate  used,  type  of  co2  and  most  importantly  the  size  of  your  tank.  These  will  definitely  help  all  hobbyists  who  are  looking  for  some  very  valuable  benefits  and  inputs.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 10:09 pm Post subject: Re: DIY fertilisers for my tank Reply with quote

 @Ravinder
 
 What  is  the  limit  on  FE  to  be  maintained  ?
 
 The  aquatools  site  gives  it  as  0.1  ppm
 
 Is  the  range  0  to  1  ppm  because  most  of  us  increase  the  Fe  dose  for  red  plants  ?
 
 Is  calcium  important  ?  This  is  one  of  the  solutions  I've  not  made  yet
 
 There  is  this  site  too  for  calculations
 http://calc.petalphile.com/
 
 Wow  never  thought  of  Nutralite  from  Amway  thats  a  good  idea   Thumb Up
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 I  can  give  you  pre-formulated  micr  n  macro  nutrients.
 The  specs  are  the  most  balanced  ones.  They  deliver  6  ppm  of  nitrogen  and  1  ppm  of  Fe.
 I  can  send  the  complete  data  separately  if  you  wish.
 Each  pack  you  have  to  dissolve  separately  in  1L  water  (stock  solution).
 Use  10  ml/cubic  ft  of  each  on  alternate  day.
 This  set  comes  at  Rs  XXX
 Trust  this  is  the  best  buy.
 
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 Yes,  the  site  http://calc.petalphile.com/  provides  one  of  very  good  calculators  and  this  site  helped  me  to  decide  about  the  EI  of  dosing,  I  keep  using  1/3rd  of  the  dose  required  to  be  used,  because  I  use  it  daily.
 My  Aquarium  is  a  small  one  76.2cmX30.48cmX35cm.
 My  substrate  is  of  grit  of  1  to  3  mm  grain  size,  but  my  plants  are  in  pots  with  vermiculite  topped  with  grit.  in  some  of  pots  I  have  used  some  Laterite  and  clay.  I  have  4  pots.
 I  never  used  Co2  but  my  Aquarium  is  deliberately  over  populated  it  has  23  No.  of  fish  including  Blue  Gaurami,  Dwarf  Gaurami,  Angel,  Coridora,  Kribensis,  Zebra  danio,  Pleco,  I  thought  it  would  increase  the  desolved  Co2  in  Water,  although  I  know  it  is  risky.  But  my  fish  are  all   healthy  and  my  plants  are  growing.
 My  efforts  are  aimed  at  minimum  expenditure  with  maximum  results,  so  I  rarely  use  commercial  preperation  and  I  am  in  favour  of  DIY  preperation.
 The  most  helpful  articals  are  found  on  the  website  http://www.thekrib.com/
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Hello  Dear,
 I  want  to  share  my  experiance  with  you,  I  used  a  very  good  site  given  below  to  decide  about  the  chamicals
 
 
 http://www.theaquatools.com

 
 I  used   the  chemicals  below  for  my  80  litre  tank
 Kh2Po4                                      20gm
 KNo3                                          220gm
 MgCo3                                      100gm
 CaCo3                                       300gm
 Ferrous  Glucomate        10gm
 dissolved  in  2000  ml  and  use  5ml  of  it  6  days  a  week,  with  10%  water  change  daily
 Ravinder  Singh
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   (1)How  did  you  manage  to  dissolve  300  gm  of  CaCao3  in  2  lit  of  water?
          You  cannot  dissolve  more  than  0.47  g  /Lit  it  is  very  unsolvable  in  water.
 
 (2)  How  did  you  manage  to  get  10  gm  of  Ferrous  gluconate  it  is  not  available  in  packing  of  less  than  500  gms.
 
 (3)  What  is  hardness  of  your  water,  all  those  carbonate  salts  will  make  it  even  more  hard.
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