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PostPosted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 1:28 am Post subject: Re: Guava Tree as Driftwood Reply with quote

 @Jabba
 
 Thanks  for  clearing  out  my  confusion
 
 @Pio
 
 Got  the  definitions  right....  and  guava  tree  wood  is  hard  enough  as  i  have  seen...
 
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 Thanks  Athreyan...  will  take  your  advice  and  dry  the  guava  tree  branch  and  then  only  will  soak  it  and  boil  it
 
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 guys  please  do  enlighten  me  about  bleaching
 
 Does  bleaching  means  using  the  common  bleaching  powder  used  for  household  sold  by  the  chemical  shops....??
 If  so  what  quantities  of  it  should  be  used  for  cleaning  a  driftwood  and  make  it  aquarium  safe...??
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 12:31 pm Post subject: Re: Guava Tree as Driftwood Reply with quote

 Hmm  yes  I  want  to  know  about  bleaching  too  because  there  is  the  powder  and  online  some  forums  also  speak  about  using  the  household  liquid  bleach  one  part  of  it  into  many  parts  of  water.  So  what  liquid  bleaches  do  we  have  in  India  ?  Can  those  be  used  ?  How  ?
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 12:47 pm Post subject: Re: Guava Tree as Driftwood Reply with quote

 Show  a  picture  of  your  drift  wood   Smile  please
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 I  don't  think  bleaching  powder  is  a  good  idea.  Mainly  because  it  will  not  dissolve  fully  in  water  and  will  get  lodged  with  the  wood  &  enter  your  tank.  It  is  a  slim  chance  but  it  is  a  chance.
 
 you  must  use  a  liquid  chlorine  solution.  I  use  what  is  called  "chlorox".  It  is  available  at  my  local  supermarket.  I  make  a  5  -  10%  diluted  solution  and  then  dip  whatever  I  have  to  for  about  5  to  10  minutes.  But  be  sure  to  clean  the  article  thoroughly  after  doing  this.  another  thing  I  do  is  use  a  potassium  permanganate  solution  after  the  chlorine  bath.  After  the  chlorine  bath,  wash  the  item  well.  Then  introduce  it  to  a  PP  bath.  This  has  double  advantages.  The  PP  itself  is  a  good  anti-bacterial,  anti-fungal  agent.  Also,  PP  neutralizes  when  it  reacts  with  chlorine  thereby  also  negating  the  effect  of  chlorine.  Even  so,  you  must  dry  the  item  out  in  the  sun  for  about  2  or  3  days  so  that  the  chlorine  is  totally  removed.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 1:18 pm Post subject: Re: Guava Tree as Driftwood Reply with quote

 @Athreyan
 What  would  be  the  dose  of  chlorox.  How  much  chlorox  liquid  is  to  be  put  put  in  how  much  water  for  dilution  ?
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 1:19 pm Post subject: Re: Guava Tree as Driftwood Reply with quote

 I  just  took  a  plastic  bucket  and  emersed  the  wood  in  it  and  left  it  in  the  sun  for  3  weeks.  It  sank  down  and  the  water  became  brown.  on  the  22nd  day  I  removed  it  gave  a  PP  bath  in  fuming  hot  water  and  let  it  dry  in  the  sun.  Then  I  dropped  it  in  my  tank,  it  floated  for  2  days,  then  it  sank  down.  after  that  its  still  there.  
 
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 Thats  the  tank  Very Happy  
 
 
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 2:10 pm Post subject: Re: Guava Tree as Driftwood Reply with quote

 @Pio:  It  should  be  5  -  10%  dilution.  That  is  for  every  litre  of  water  you  must  use  50  -  100  ml  chlorox.  i  say  5  -  10%  because  you  can  vary  it  depending  on  how  much  you  think  the  item  is  dirty.  If  you  think  it  is  pretty  clean  &  you're  doing  it  just  as  a  precaution,  you  can  use  5%  dilution.  Whereas,  if  you  found  a  piece  of  DW  somewhere  on  the  road,  you  may  want  to  give  it  a  good  cleansing.  Then  you  can  use  a  slightly  stronger  solution.  I  have  read  of  people  using  15%  also,  but  never  tried  it  just  to  be  safe.
 
 It  can  be  used  to  remove  algae  from  plants  also.  But  use  only  5%  dilution  &  dip  the  plant  for  only  15  to  20  seconds.  The  algae  will  die  off.  this  is  especially  useful  for  thread  algae  &  cyanobacteria.  But  not  all  plants  are  able  to  withstand  this  treatment.  I  suspect  mosses  do  not  do  well  (never  tried).  but  plants  like  anubias,  ferns  etc  are  OK.
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 People  please  to  complicate  stuffs  for  him........
 You  dont  need  any  chemical  to  process  your  driftwood.  At  the  max  you  may  add  some  salt  when  you  boil  the  driftwood  to  increase  the  boiling  point  of  water  PERIOD.
 
 You  can  take  my  word  for  this  as  I  am  a  die  hard  fan  of  processing  driftwoods.
 Just  go  through  my  post  "Walk  to  the  dreams"  in  that  there  is  a  driftwood  that  is  kept  on  right  side  when  you  view  them.
 You  can  see  a  normal  rock  kept  in  that  photot  to  sink  it(It  sunk  in  a  week).
 That  wood  was  a  piece  that  broke  from  a  hardwood  tree.  Only  thing  I  did  is  ,  dry  it  for  2  weeks  and  kept  it  in  water  for  about  2  monce(You  can  even  skip  this  part  if  you  dont  mind  the  brown  colour  in  your  tank).  
 Tanins  are  in  a  way  good  for  softwater  fishes....  If  you  see  the  videos  of  habitat  od  fishes  like  cardinal  tetra,altum  angels,Discus  you  will  see  that  they  live  in  place  where  lot  of  tanin  flow  in  to  the  stream.
 The  only  thing  you  have  to  be  careful  is  that  the  wood  you  select  is  not  a  poisonous  one  like  Kangiram(malayalam  name  I  dont  know  its  scientific  name)  and  also  there  are  some  plants  which  people  use  to  poison  rivers  to  catch  fishes.....but  gauva  is  very  much  safe  in  that  concern....
 If  you  want  to  see  some  of  the  drift  wood  that  I  have  processed  check  for  this  place
 http://indianaquariumhobbyist.com/community/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=31892&highlight=driftwood
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 +1  Jabba...  It  is  not  absolutely  compulsory  to  do  the  chlorine  bath.  I  was  just  pointing  to  the  procedure  of  how  it  is  to  be  done  (or  at  least  how  I  do  it).  If  you  take  the  wood  from  a  place  you  know  well  (your  home,  backyard,  farm  etc.),  then  you  can  take  a  call  on  whether  you  need  it  or  not.  For  that  matter  even  from  a  stream  or  clean  water-body.  But  if  you  just  picked  it  up  from  the  road  or  something  then  I  strongly  suggest  that  you  play  safe  (not  in  your  instance,  but  for  general  reference).
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People  please  to  complicate  stuffs  for  him........
 You  dont  need  any  chemical  to  process  your  driftwood.  At  the  max  you  may  add  some  salt  when  you  boil  the  driftwood  to  increase  the  boiling  point  of  water  PERIOD.
 
 You  can  take  my  word  for  this  as  I  am  a  die  hard  fan  of  processing  driftwoods.
 Just  go  through  my  post  "Walk  to  the  dreams"  in  that  there  is  a  driftwood  that  is  kept  on  right  side  when  you  view  them.
 You  can  see  a  normal  rock  kept  in  that  photot  to  sink  it(It  sunk  in  a  week).
 That  wood  was  a  piece  that  broke  from  a  hardwood  tree.  Only  thing  I  did  is  ,  dry  it  for  2  weeks  and  kept  it  in  water  for  about  2  monce(You  can  even  skip  this  part  if  you  dont  mind  the  brown  colour  in  your  tank).  
 Tanins  are  in  a  way  good  for  softwater  fishes....  If  you  see  the  videos  of  habitat  od  fishes  like  cardinal  tetra,altum  angels,Discus  you  will  see  that  they  live  in  place  where  lot  of  tanin  flow  in  to  the  stream.
 The  only  thing  you  have  to  be  careful  is  that  the  wood  you  select  is  not  a  poisonous  one  like  Kangiram(malayalam  name  I  dont  know  its  scientific  name)  and  also  there  are  some  plants  which  people  use  to  poison  rivers  to  catch  fishes.....but  gauva  is  very  much  safe  in  that  concern....
 If  you  want  to  see  some  of  the  drift  wood  that  I  have  processed  check  for  this  place
 http://indianaquariumhobbyist.com/community/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=31892&highlight=driftwood                

 
 Ya  agreed,  but  isnt  it  better  to  be  safe  then  repent  later.  simple  red  hot  water  bath  will  also  treat  the  wood  though.
 
 Please  dont  mind  I  am  not  contradicting  you  Smile
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People  please  to  complicate  stuffs  for  him........
 You  dont  need  any  chemical  to  process  your  driftwood.  At  the  max  you  may  add  some  salt  when  you  boil  the  driftwood  to  increase  the  boiling  point  of  water  PERIOD.
 
 You  can  take  my  word  for  this  as  I  am  a  die  hard  fan  of  processing  driftwoods.
 Just  go  through  my  post  "Walk  to  the  dreams"  in  that  there  is  a  driftwood  that  is  kept  on  right  side  when  you  view  them.
 You  can  see  a  normal  rock  kept  in  that  photot  to  sink  it(It  sunk  in  a  week).
 That  wood  was  a  piece  that  broke  from  a  hardwood  tree.  Only  thing  I  did  is  ,  dry  it  for  2  weeks  and  kept  it  in  water  for  about  2  monce(You  can  even  skip  this  part  if  you  dont  mind  the  brown  colour  in  your  tank).  
 Tanins  are  in  a  way  good  for  softwater  fishes....  If  you  see  the  videos  of  habitat  od  fishes  like  cardinal  tetra,altum  angels,Discus  you  will  see  that  they  live  in  place  where  lot  of  tanin  flow  in  to  the  stream.
 The  only  thing  you  have  to  be  careful  is  that  the  wood  you  select  is  not  a  poisonous  one  like  Kangiram(malayalam  name  I  dont  know  its  scientific  name)  and  also  there  are  some  plants  which  people  use  to  poison  rivers  to  catch  fishes.....but  gauva  is  very  much  safe  in  that  concern....
 If  you  want  to  see  some  of  the  drift  wood  that  I  have  processed  check  for  this  place
 http://indianaquariumhobbyist.com/community/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=31892&highlight=driftwood                

 
 Ya  agreed,  but  isnt  it  better  to  be  safe  then  repent  later.  simple  red  hot  water  bath  will  also  treat  the  wood  though.
 
 Please  dont  mind  I  am  not  contradicting  you  Smile                

 how  to  do  red  hot  water  bath
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 5:37 pm Post subject: Re: Guava Tree as Driftwood Reply with quote

 only  after  the  drift  wood  has  sunk  down  in  the  bucket  remove  it
 
 Take  a  metal  container  
 put  water  in  it  
 boil  it  till  steaming  hot  swater  is  seen,  
 put  the  drift  wood  in  it  slowly  
 and  put  some  weight  on  it  to  drown  it  into  hot  water
 after  alittle  while  say  about  10  min,  remove  the  drift  wood  and  let  it  dry  in  the  sun.
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