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 Ok,  back  with  some  updates.  I  was  doing  some  maintenance  on  the  tank  and  took  some  quick  pictures.  I've  been  having  a  lot  of  diatom  algae  right  now  and  its  a  pain  to  get  rid  of.  
 Best  way  to  get  rid  of  it  from  your  glass  is  use  a  sponge  and  remove  from  the  bottom  to  the  top  in  one  movement.  Wash  the  sponge  and  then  repeat  (  Smile  Rinse  and  repeat)
 
 
 Palythoa
 
 
 Purple  and  Green  Zoos
 
 
 Blue  Zoos  Closed  -  These  are  the  most  sensitive  of  the  three  kinds
 
 
 
 Palythoa  frag  -  polyps  at  the  end  seem  to  be  dying
 
 
 Nassirius  Snail  -  Did  I  spell  it  right?
 
 
 Turbo  sp
 
 
 
 Macro  -  Unfortunately  all  that  is  left  of  several  different  kinds  of  macro.  
 
 
 Blue  zoanthids  just  beginning  to  open
 
 
 Simple  DIY  Kalk  Dripper
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 Checkout  the  tank  parameters  and  the  temperature.  I  have  a  feeling  that  there  is  something  wrong.  The  zoo's  seems  to  me  as  if  they  are  stressed.
 
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 I  can't  test  water  parameters  because  I  haven't  got  any  test  kits.  Temp  is  between  79  -  81  F.  Salinity  is  usually  between  1.023  -  1.024.
 The  zoos  were  probably  stressed  at  the  time  because  I  had  just  fragged  them  and  moved  them  around.  Actually  the  rocks  on  which  the  zoanthids  are  broke  up  and  stretched  the  zoos.  Several  portions  broke  off  and  those  that  remained  were  being  stretched  by  the  weight  of  the  rocks.  So  I  just  cut  them  apart  with  a  blade.  So  from  the  original  3  zoos  I  got  ,  I  have  around  12  -  15  smaller  frags  varying  from  5  -  50  polyps.
 All  the  polyps  are  fully  extended  now  except  some  of  those  which  got  stretched.  
 
 Just  a  quick  question  -  How  do  you  define  the  zoos  as  being  stressed  ?  Unopened  polyps  ,  lack  of  colour,  lack  of  extensions  ?
 
 The  palythoa  is  one  tough  creature.  The  frag  in  the  4th  pic  had  broken  off  and  was  under  LR  for  probably  a  few  days  where  it  didn't  get  any  light.  I  got  it  out  when  I  was  cleaning  the  tank  and  put  it  under  lights  and  to  my  surprise,  some  polyps  actually  opened  up.  
 
 I  ll  try  get  some  photos  up  when  they  are  all  out.  
 
 Also  I  have  this  sediment  which  gets  all  over  my  LR  and  tank  bottom.  No  matter  how  much  I  get  out  it  keeps  coming  back.  What  is  it  and  how  do  I  get  it  out?
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 Algae  needs  nitrates  to  thrive.
 
 Snails  like  turbos  and  torches  will  not  eat  red  diatoms.  Try  to  minimise  the  feeding  pattern.  Ensure  that  your  skimmer  is  working  in  full  swing.
 
 Try  to  add  some  cleaner  crew  like  red  legged  hermit  crab  (  not  easily  available  in  india  ).  Over  a  period  of  time  these  diatomes  will  get  converted  in  to  green  algae  which  can  act  as  food  to  yellow  tangs.
 
 If  you  have  a  sump  add  some  mangroves  and  other  macro  algae  will  remove  the  excess  nitrates.  
 
 Your  tank  is  yet  to  mature.  Have  patience.
 
 Dont  know  much  about  your  lighting.  Increase  the  intensity  of  light.
 
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 Pradeep,  I  think  the  zoa  in  the  above  snap  are  definately  stressed  and  neglected...........Please  put  them  where  there  is  a  good  water  movement  in  the  tank  and  good  bright  light.  Please  also  insure  that  the  water  quality  is  good  enough  as  the  other  coloney  is  also  looking  stressed.  One  more  thing  when  did  you  last  change  the  water?
 about  the  DIY  kalk  dripper  I  would  like  to  advise  you  to  attach  an  air-line  to  the  bottle  and  the  other  end  of  the  air-line  should  be  attached  to  the  powerhead's  air  venturi  inlet  and  the  bottle  should  be  placed  higher  than  the  tank  this  way  you  can  get  a  better  result  with  the  drip!
 Now  is  my  time  to  really  scold  you!
   Mad
 I'd  recommend  you  to  either  check  your  water  parameters  or  if  you  cant  do  that  change  25%  of  the  water  -  If  you  see  a  white  slimy  formation  over  the  zoa  coloney  which  looks  like  a  slime  formation  -  Please  consider  this  seriously  and  if  you  don't  have  test  kits  please  beg-borrow-steal!  
 
                                                 
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Just  a  quick  question  -  How  do  you  define  the  zoos  as  being  stressed  ?  Unopened  polyps  ,  lack  of  colour,  lack  of  extensions  ?                  

 all  the  three  are  signs  of  stress  -  also  see  if  they  are  not  getting  eroded  from  the  rocks  -  if  that  is  the  case  you  might  have  to  consider  a  possibility  of  nudis  in  the  tank  which  will  feast  on  your  zoas  (if  that  is  the  case  -  God  bless  you!)
 
                                                 
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The  palythoa  is  one  tough  creature.  The  frag  in  the  4th  pic  had  broken  off  and  was  under  LR  for  probably  a  few  days  where  it  didn't  get  any  light.  I  got  it  out  when  I  was  cleaning  the  tank  and  put  it  under  lights  and  to  my  surprise,  some  polyps  actually  opened  up.                

 They  don't  require  very  intense  lighting  and  can  happily  live  in  the  bottom  reaches  of  the  tank.
 
                                                 
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Also  I  have  this  sediment  which  gets  all  over  my  LR  and  tank  bottom.  No  matter  how  much  I  get  out  it  keeps  coming  back.  What  is  it  and  how  do  I  get  it  out?                

 Try  to  get  a  wave  maker  and  increase  the  water  movement  in  your  tank  -  re-consider  your  filtration  -  sediments  are  bound  to  collect  on  the  live  rocks  if  the  water  movement  is  poor.
 (I  think  I  scolded  you  enough    Smile  )
 GO  -  SLOW!
 I  agree  with  Rajesh  that  your  tank  is  still  cycling
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 @Tigger
 Its  true  I  ve  got  low  lighting  on  the  tank  atm  to  keep  diatom  algae  down.  I  ve  got  halides,  its  just  a  question  of  fixing  them  on  the  tank.
 
 My  snails  are  hacking  away  at  the  diatoms  all  the  time.  I  am  just  waiting  for  the  growth  to  die  off.  The  problem  is  that  the  snails  go  on  the  macro  algae  as  well  Sad
 
 Skimmer    is  runnning  24*7.
 
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 I  do  10%  -  15%  WC  every  week.  I  ll  update  again  later  this  week  with  pics  of  the  zooanthids  when  they  are  open.
 These  pics  were  after  I  just  redid  the  aquascaping  and  fragged  some  of  the  zoos,  so  probably  very  stressed  indeed.They  aren't  like  that  generally.
 
 I'll  also  get  my  water  tested  somehow.
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 Well  Pradeep  
 
 you  cannot  grow  Macro  Algae  in  a  display  tank.  Definatley  the  some  snails  and  fishes  (  especially  tang  varities  will  finish  off  your  macro  algaes  )
 
 It  can  be  done  by  constructing  a  refugium  in  the  sump.  
 
 Go  for  a  sump  with  a  refugium.  The  choice  is  yours.
 
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Its  true  I  ve  got  low  lighting  on  the  tank  atm  to  keep  diatom  algae  down.  I  ve  got  halides,  its  just  a  question  of  fixing  them  on  the  tank.                  

 I  dont  quite  understand  what  you  are  trying  to  say  -  do  you  mean  that  diatoms  will  not  form/be  less  if  you  have  low  lighting??
 
                                                 
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My  snails  are  hacking  away  at  the  diatoms  all  the  time.  I  am  just  waiting  for  the  growth  to  die  off.  The  problem  is  that  the  snails  go  on  the  macro  algae  as  well                  

 Well,  the  buggers  dont  know  that  we  actually  buy  it!  
   Chuckle  
 
                                                 
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I  do  10%  -  15%  WC  every  week.  I  ll  update  again  later  this  week  with  pics  of  the  zooanthids  when  they  are  open.  
 These  pics  were  after  I  just  redid  the  aquascaping  and  fragged  some  of  the  zoos,  so  probably  very  stressed  indeed.They  aren't  like  that  generally.  
 
 I'll  also  get  my  water  tested  somehow.                

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 Sorry  ,  I  haven't  updated  this  thread  for  so  long.  
 I  haven't  really  added  anything  to  the  tank  in  a  long  time,  just  letting  it  do  its  own  thing.
 The  present  inhabitants  are  a  clownfish,  a  blue  damsel  and  the  goby.  
 
 I've  had  mixed  results  with  the  softies  and  while  the  palythoa  is  spreading  all  over  the  place,  the  blue  zoanthid  died.  I  was  moving  house  at  the  time  and  the  forgot  to  top  up  the  water.  Salinity  shot  up  and  unfortunately  the  blue  zoa  was  too  sensitive  to  take  it.
 
 On  the  other  hand,  coralline  is  now  actually  driving  me  crazy.  Its  on  the  glass  and  its  pretty  hard  to  remove.  Help  me  out  here  ,  people.  I  don't  mind  the  stuff  on  the  back  glass  but  not  on  the  front.
 
 Pics  up  soon.
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 Hey  buddy!
 welcome  to  the  salted  side  after  a  looong  time!
 Good  to  know  that  you  are  letting  the  tank  settle  down.  I  feel  that  the  tank  has  settled  down  as  you  say  that  the  coralline  growth  is  something  which  is  getting  difficult  to  cope  up  with.  Well,  the  diatoms  come  first  and  the  coralline  phase  comes  last  in  the  cycling  of  the  reef.
 Pradeep  actually  there  is  nothing  which  can  be  done  apart  from  cleaning  your  tank  glass  everyday  to  control  the  coralline  growth  on  the  front  glass.  But,  if  the  coralline  is  getting  out  of  control  than  it  would  be  better  to  introduce  a  sea  urchin  and  a  tang  (best  is  a  gold  rim  tang)
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